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Full Circle: The Genesis Of Gravel Riding | WTB HQ Tour & Marin County Ride

Full Circle: The Genesis Of Gravel Riding | WTB HQ Tour & Marin County Ride


– Here we are with the
iconic Golden Gate Bridge right behind me. San Francisco is off in
the distance over there, and the infamous Alcatraz prison is just a swim away right over there. But, where I’m standing
is in Marin County. I’m here to spend a day with WTB, and after we received the invite, I threw my hand up, because this is a rare opportunity to learn about the legacy of off-road, drop-bar bikes, and to get a history lesson
into how this little area of the world changed
off-road riding forever. (booming) (whoosh) WTB started right here
in Marin, California. The company was born during a time of off-road cycling exploration. This area of Northern California has huge redwood trees, big
mountains intertwined with pine-covered single track, that
San Francisco city culture, and the Pacific Ocean. It’s a very unique landscape. It’s easy to understand
how riding off road became so intriguing to
the cyclists from here. Many believe that this is the area where mountain biking was born. Now, that’s going to be debated forever, but there’s no denying that
something really special happened in this area in the late 1970s. This need to bend the limits
of what a bike could handle, modify existing routes, and
head off the beaten path epitomizes the gravel riding we do today. That curiosity to push the boundaries of conventional cycling have lead to the genesis of gravel as we know it. And to dig into this,
we got to shake hands and spend the morning with one of WTB’s longest employees, Gary Gleason. Gary. – Jeremy. – Nice to see you.
– Nice to see you. – How are you doing? – Thank you for having us.
We’re doing really good. – Yeah. Come on in. Let’s go!
– Okay, awesome. Who’s this? – This is Lucy. – Lucy, what are you doing? Taking care of business over here, keeping everybody in line? – Yeah. She runs the show around here. – Really? – Yeah. (laughing) – If anyone gets out of line. Well, all right, Lucy.
– Yeah. Let’s go. Come on.
– All right. Whoa! (chuckles) Dude. This is… What do we have? – We have some history here. Um, so, on the top is the Phoenix frame that WTB used to make back in the ’90s. And then, the bike down
here is from the late ’70s, and that was one of the original Klunkers from one of the people
in the Corte Madera gang. – When I was growing up, I would see all these pictures of guys,
you know, just in like, jeans, going down the
hill with their legs out, and then you never… Yeah, at that time, you’re just like that looks kind of weird, you know, that looks like a commercial of some kind. – Yeah. – And then, when you get into it and you start to see more of these like kind of iconic pictures, and yeah, different stuff like that from years of growing
up, like getting excited about mountain biking. Um, it’s… pretty cool for me to
see one of these bikes that they, yeah, that that they had back in the day in person. I- I can’t say I’ve ever really seen one. – Really cool, and I was a kid back then, but these guys, like the founders of WTB, Mark, Charlie, and Steve, they’re iconic. They are legends, and they
were doing this stuff, living it, and innovating
and making mountain bikes. – Yeah. – Yeah
– ‘Cause in my research, I was always finding that like, in the late
’70s, it went down here in a big way, and I know that you guys had all this like big, into all, you know, all the stuff that was going on. – And this was ground zero. This is where uh, all of these different
people were trying to figure out how to make bikes better, make them last longer,
so they can ride more. And, so, they’d come down to this shop, and start, you know, tooling on things to make them better, to go back out there and do it again. Really.
It was really organic. This is a sheet of our head badges that we had made up in Mendocino
by a jewelry uh, maker. And that’s what you find right up here- – Right. – … on the front of the Phoenix. – This. I have to say,
this is bringing me back. (laughs) This is bringing me back. This one here. This in particular, the
Paola Pezzo edition. – Yes. – That is, uh, that’s reminiscent for me for a myriad of reasons, but when I raced not far from here, up in Napa, there was a World Cup there, and, got on the podium and, Paola Pezzo, in her very sparkly outfit uh, that she had back in the day, – Yeah. – She gave me the award, and that was like, pretty much, as a 16 year old, I was like, on top of the world that I got to A meet Paola Pezzo, – Yeah. – So, this brings back a lot of memories for me, personally. (laughs) – Super cool. Yeah, and I think that was the saddle that come
off of her bike then, so. (laughs) – My worlds have collided right now. – Boom! – Tell me about the
saddles, ’cause you guys have a long history in saddles. – Yeah, so there’s uh, you know, we have a long history of
saddles from the very early days of designing, you know,
saddles for specialized all the way up to today, we’ve done a lot of different shapes and things, and this right here is really some of the custom things we’ve done, whether it’s uh, you know, the sponsoring the Santa Cruz Syndicate team, or the Whistler Mountain Bike Park, or we’ve done some cause related things like, we have a saddle right here. Uh, it’s the Buddy Newman tribute saddle that’s for the TDS Enduro Race up in Northern California. Um, we set up a foundation for him ’cause he passed and he
was an employee here, so, um, a bunch of special stuff, and we just like to put
here to highlight it, because it really, uh, you know, brings up a lot of cool stories. (upbeat music) – Old school, and now we’re moving into modern day, where we are now. (laughs) – Modern day, yeah. So this is the new collection of saddles for us, and uh, a lot’s
changed with the technology that goes into saddles, but we’re just – You’re moving away from wood. – Moving away from wood (Jeremy laughs) into (laughs) some more
advanced materials, but the mission is still the same, – Yeah. – to provide a comfortable
saddle for people to ride bikes on. – Ahhhhh! (both laughing) This is, again, my worlds collide. This is like, serious man. This was the first tire. (chuckles) Yep. – Goes way back, right? – This goes way back, the VelociRaptor. – Yeah. – It’s the- got that, that
like, primal Jurassic Park… This was, This, to me,
that brings me back. That brings back some memories for me. – Yeah. Groundbreaking. Old school. – You guys have been
doing tires for a minute. – For a long time, yeah. – Yeah.
– Yeah. You know, we’ve got a full accompaniment of mountain bike tires, we’ve got, uh, a very comprehensive
line of gravel tires. And gravel’s really where we have a heavy emphasis on product development and sales, and stuff like that. – Yeah, yeah. You guys are pushing the bar with that as well, because I remember I was reading up, and like, plus-size and, I know that there’s another
format that you guys have. I think it’s also, maybe not proprietary, but you guys pushed the boundary
on it, and you created… What was that? – Yeah. Road Plus.
– That’s right. – It was basically a
category where we took a 650b diameter with a
47 millimeter casing, and put that on a gravel bike,
and um, really transformed the ride experience, made
it a lot more comfortable. It maybe, it’s more appropriate
for people that are riding long haul, looking for not
such a jarring experience, and it really, really took off. – Yeah, like super chunk. – Yeah, super chunk. – Like big, big, yeah, definitely made for a bit more enjoyable. And, just not as many flats, right? I’m sure that’s what you guys find. – Less flats, more comfortable,
so you can ride longer. – Right. – You know, that’s pretty much the game. – So, that was blast from the
past and a big history lesson from Gary about all the things
that WTB has been a part of. Now, I’m going to sit down
with their engineer, Evan, and learn all about how tires are made and what goes into them here. I also was able to swindle
my way to a WTB trucker hat. Evan, nice to meet you. – Nice to meet you, too. – Thanks so much. You’re
going to tell us all about what goes into making tires here at WTB. – Yeah, well, really all of our products. – Yeah. Let’s sit down. – Okay, so we got a brief
introduction about tires when we were over there with
Gary, but you’re the guy. You have a heavy weight to
carry because this has been a big part of WTB’s history.
You guys have been making tires for, like, decades now.
So, how does the tire come to fruition? Like,
where’s the start on this? – We go for rides at lunch.
We talk about bikes a lot. We talk about competitors’ products a lot, and how we can make it better
for the general consumer. – Yeah. – Um, then we come back to
the office after a ride, we talk about it some more,
start doing some sketches on paper, throw that into
the computer, um, send out emails to people, asking
them what they think of initial ideas, and
then we bring it into 3D, and we do some rapid
prototypes, and then… – Which is what we have here. – Exactly. Yep. – This is where it comes
in. So you guys have this, you send it out to, I
assume, like, athletes, or… – Yep. – you know, your crew of people
that you get feedback from that have, also, history in
this with you, and you’ve got like, a team of people that
are looking at this design and saying, like, “Hey, I like
this, or I don’t like that.” ‘Cause there’s a lot, you look
at a tire, you’re just like, “Oh, that looks good, I’d ride
that.” But, there’s a lot. – There’s a lot of little
details in there, like this tire, I was working on it this
morning, we’ve changed a lot of details on it. And– – So, this isn’t a production tire yet. – It’s not a production tire yet, very much in the prototype stage, so yeah. – Cool. – We think about all of that stuff, uh, position of knobs
relative to other ones, uh, casing materials, puncture protection, to trying to make it, um, you know, better ride characteristics. – Right. – And, easy for the
consumer to understand. – Right. And then,
what’s the last process? So you get to a place where
you’re about to push the button, the green button, go. – Yep. So, obviously the
hardest part is when you start cutting steel, ’cause
you can’t go back from there, so, we try to get all
the details finalized, and then we click go on the
products, start making molds, and then we get some
prototypes and ride ’em, and then we go into production,
but it’s always test first. – Yeah. Wow. That’s fantastic. Well, I see the crew around
here is, uh, I see some kits getting started to get
put on, so I would need to get on this ride. – Yeah. – But, thank you for showing us around. – Absolutely. – And, uh, I look forward to checking out some of these tires. – Okay, so this is the crew
from WTB that’s taking me out. We got Johs. We got Clayton. And thank you to Evan and
Gary for their time today. – You bet. – It was awesome to be in here. You guys are going to take me
out on a pretty serious ride. Where are we headed? – Oh, we’re headed up on
the hill a little bit, and we’re going to take you around– – This direction? – …that direction, yes. – Cool. And, you guys said,
uh, Mount Tam is in there, and… Repack. The infamous Repack. – We might just go there too. (upbeat music) – Johs, we are here, man.
This is so great to be out in the California sunshine.
Such a pretty area, like, just, this whole area. Where are we right now? – We are on Blithedale Avenue and we’re heading out
toward Railroad Grade and, uh, it takes us right on
up to the top of Mount Tam. – It’s not a bad, uh, not a
bad, like, lunch ride area to be doing some time in. (upbeat music) – Tell me a little bit about what you do, and then I also want
to know about the tires that I’m riding. (chuckles) – Right. – ‘Cause that’s your department. – Yeah. So, I have a couple
roles. One is product visions, so I look at our whole offering and see where there’s holes,
see where there’s places we can innovate, and then I
also am globally in charge of OEM sales. So, I work with
all the different bike brands around the world in what
they’re developing next. – [Jeremy] Okay. – So, what you have on there
for tires is called the Nano. – Okay. – The Nano is the tire originally
was called the Nanoraptor. And, we’ve actually had that
tire for close to 20 years. – Whoa! – But, it is, and it’s still to this day, a very popular tire. It’s got a lot of working
edges, it’s inverted tread, so, it still rolls really fast. – [Jeremy] Yeah. – [Johs] It’s a great tire. I love it. – All right. Well, I
can’t wait to test it out. Dude, this is amazing. Ooh man, looking right out
onto San Fran. (laughs) – It’s pretty fantastic.
I mean, I, like, I try to get this in every time I come out here. (soothing music) (tires flinging gravel) (slow music) (heavy rock music) – We’re going to take
you on an amazing ride. – With (chuckles) the trail boss. – With the trail boss. – This guy, right here.
This is the picture that I was talking about earlier. – Yeah. – He’s got his bell
bottoms, and his shirt. – Yeah. That’s Fast Freddy
Falk, a 30 plus year employee at WTB, but aka the trail boss. (fast rock music) – All right. Hopefully,
we’re almost to the top. – Yeah. We’re getting there. – (laughs) Okay. – Let’s do this. Awww! Ooh, a slider! – Where the heck are these guys? (fast rock music)
(laughter) – The trail boss. Living large. You finally got here. – Gary, what do we have
here? This is the Cunningham? Tell me what the heck is that
– No, this is the ham. This was a desirable bike
when I was growing up riding around here, for sure – Yeah. – It was like the ultimate, basically, and so this bike has WTB
components. One of the original owners made it in Fairfax.
He had his own little oven to bake it, and made all the
little parts, fabricated it. He had one similar to this
in 1979, and uh, you know, the following year, I saw
him riding up Pearl Pass in Crested Butte. We kind of
knew of him and then knew him after that, and, uh, one
of my friends got his bike, and it was, you know, amongst our group, it was the thing to have. – So, we’re going left here? – We said our goodbyes
to Johs, and we continued our adventure with the trail boss. – All right, have a good ride. – See you guys. – All right. (up tempo music) – Yeah. It’s like, all of the sudden… (up tempo music)
(bike tires swooshing) (air wooshing) – Done–
– That was serious. – Done with the pave. – Ah, what do we got now?
This is the bottom of Repack. – Well, this is Pine Mountain Loop. – Okay. – And we’re going to ride about 20 minutes up to the top of Repack. (laughs) So. – This is spicy. – Yeah. – That said all through there,
through like, where we were going, um– – From Bellanis Ridge… – Yeah. – Uh, down to Alpine Dam. – Ugh. – Through trees– – That view off, looking at all those little islands and stuff. – Yes. – Aw, man. – Beautiful. – I mean, I’ve got tired
legs, but my eyes are like, (both laugh) it’s just beautiful. All right. Let’s start doing this thing. 20 minutes, that’s what we’ve got, and then it’s, then we
get to have a beer, right? – Yes. – Okay. (tires rumbling) (dramatic music) (tires rumbling) (gravel skidding) (tires scraping) (wind wooshing) I lost a water bottle somewhere. – Oh, whoa. – What a climb, huh? – Dude, that is some chunky stuff. – On that thing. – Oh my gosh. Yeah. I can’t imagine what that was like back in the day. – Yeah. Can you imagine on a single speed? (phone beeps) A kick-back brake… – (chuckles) No. – Bike? – No. Dude, this is it. This is the top. This is Cascade Canyon
Road, where we’re going, Fairfax, two and a half miles downhill. – All downhill. – AKA, Repack. So, what is Repack? Well, it’s this crazy
descent off of Mount Tam, and it was right here, at
this little intersection on top of the mountain that
created a major chapter in the off-road cycling history
books over 40 years ago. This is one of those spots where you wish the trees could talk. ‘Cause
that initial a-ha moment of modifying existing bikes
to be able to ride off road, many believe started
from a group of riders, just out having fun, riding their Klunkers or their balloon bikes, space bikes, right here on this mountain. Now, the descent itself
is very steep, fast, ripping descent, and they were
using these modified bikes with coaster brakes, meaning,
you just pedaled backwards to engage the brake. Going as fast as they
did, it would literally burn up the grease inside
the hub after every ride. They called it Repack
because they had to repack their coaster brakes with fresh grease after each rip down the mountain. (dramatic music) (laughs) (tires scraping) (dramatic music) – Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho
ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho! – Yeah. – Ah haha haha, dude! That was insane! (laughter) That was insane. Oh, my gosh. – You survived. – There–
– He did it. – I know why that is, uh, so iconic. – Yeah. – That thing rips. It’s
do, vo, vo, and then, it’s just like tabletop,
tabletop, tabletop, and like, you were
saying, man, that’s like 40 years ago, people were
tearing that up on bikes that had, I have– – Claymore Schwinns. – I have 160 rotors on
this, with disc brakes, and all kinds of
technology and they were… I can’t believe it, but
that gets the adrenaline just ripping. – Oh, yeah. – Fa–
– Arms humped, just sliding around corners. – Ahh! – Clicking it. – Oh, all right. Let’s hit dinner. That was amazing. Thank you guys. – Yep. (bike chain clinks) (folksy music)
(indistinct speech) – If you’ve ridden Repack
even once, then the descent has left its impression on you. It’s an absolute screamer,
and I was riding it with disc brakes, so
thinking about these guys going down this on their
Klunkers with coaster brakes absolutely blows my mind. After the descent, we made our
way into Fairfax, California and the downtown has all
kinds of mountain bike history all over the walls and the
murals and all of this. We made our way over to
the Splitrock Tap and Wheel for some beers and to
just talk about everything that had happened. (glasses clink) – Cheers. – Oh. That was a day. It
was extremely educational, it was fun, and I learned a
lot. I hope you guys did too. I leave here with a sense of excitement, not just about everything that I learned, but also for the future,
because if this video told me anything, it’s that history often repeats itself and this refinement, and this process of continuing to evolve, it’s really exciting times. I hope you guys enjoyed the video. If you like it, please
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100 comments on “Full Circle: The Genesis Of Gravel Riding | WTB HQ Tour & Marin County Ride

  1. back in the early 80's I raced bmx for Schwinn in NJ, we used tires we called Snake Bellys (not sure of manufacturer) great off road and good for the indoor races (with a bit of aquanet hair spray) can't find anything close, closest I have found is Michelin Country Rock but they're not really the same, snake bellys looked exactly look the belly of a snake, they were great in the dirt and excellent on the road because they had a low rolling coefficient. Are great for sandy, mushy types of terrain ( Florida) and still excellent on the roads and dirt roads/trails, does WTB have anything like that, I'm looking for pictures to send

  2. Great Video – Loved "seeing" the history as opposed to reading about it. WTB makes a great tyre and after seeing the surrounds, it's easy to understand why.

  3. 'Im in my 50's and still riding everyday if at all possible…….. Me and a couple of mates were building "trackers" as we called them then, in the late 1970's in the UK !.

    These were modified road bikes with wide bars,fork strengtheners and the knobbiest tyres we could find, we rode them everywhere and raced them downhill on a steep path we built jumps into.

    Great to see the USA birthplace and hear the story behind it, ride safe guys. 🙂

  4. Another good piece from Jeremy. About time he had a jersey with National Champs cuffs for when he's producing these gravel / cross videos!

  5. my bike came with the Nano… tried it through Autumn and Winter then swapped it out in the spring for Continental Tour rides for warm weather, and Kenda Klondikes for snow. This winter I'm switching to 45nrth Gravdal studded snows.

  6. Ok it’s getting a little ahead of its self claiming the invention of every type of cycling. People have been riding gravel for ages, but specific bikes and tires weren’t born of Northern California but from the grueling midwestern events that took place and made competitive cycling accessible. It wasn’t long ago a 32c on. 700 was pretty much monster truckin.

  7. Dude, 35 seconds in and already you can tell Jeremy is owning his role as a presenter. Moving from strength to strength, man! I love it!

  8. No lie – I still have a WTB TyrannoRaptor mtb tire that I'm using on the front of an old mountain bike. It also has a WTB headset, and WTB bottom-bracket, all of which were installed in about 2002 (both the headset and BB recently went out … need to change them both). The bike also has a WTB saddle from back then, too, now that I think about it, as well as WTB wheels. A lot of WTB and SRAM.

  9. So growing up in the 70’s, the older neighbor boys had motocross bikes. They made a track in the field next to our house. After they would leave, us younger kids would ride our bikes on it. For me, that was a Schwinn Varsity, metallic green. I was ‘cross’ before cross was cool. heh heh. Who new? Until this video, I did not know about WTB’s deep history. I do now. My Hakka MX (made ‘down the street’ has a WTB saddle! Cool beans. Time to repack my hubs…

  10. Yeah, the origin of gravel riding was, uh, riding. The safety bike was introduced largely on gravel roads. The question is not "when did people start riding on gravel?" but "when did road cycling become the normal form?" Safety bikes were gravel bikes. The first grand tours were gravel rides. True story.

  11. They talk about heritage and don't even mention guys like Gary Fisher, Joe Breeze and Tom Ritchie. Gary and I were riding on dirt and gravel back in the 60s on our road bikes, when we were in the Belmont Bicycle Club. Never thought "gravel" could be an entirely new kind of riding.

  12. Jeremy, thanks for coming to town…yeah, Tam is known as the birth place to mountain bikes but what they needed was the gravel bike! Front suspension mtbs are over kill for Tam…But this place is not so beautiful, no need to come visit!

  13. What’s the minimum width for Gravel tires for 700 c ? #askgcn. Deciding if I should get a bike that is being sold to me. And anything wrong with using thinner tires compared to thicker tires?

  14. That is not the genesis of gravel. Sheesh. A large portion of the early gravel riders, in the mid-2000s, were roadies who mythologized Belgian racing, pave racing, and Belgian beer. They tried to emulate the harsh riding of a road bike over pave, especially at Paris-Roubaix, by riding road bikes, sometimes cross bikes, over rough dirt roads, preferably in the rain and mud. This is why a lot of the older "gravel rides" are held in the spring and titled with the suffix "-Roubaix". Gravel riding is fairly new and was essentially taking a road bike off the asphalt and on to dirt roads.

  15. 1:07 I call BS. Me and my mates were riding the bikes our Dads built from scrap yard parts through woodlands, over jumps, down trails and building our own routes in late 60´s and early 70ˋs UK. MTBing and gravel racing weren’t invented in CA anymore than Edison invented the lightbulb.

  16. I have WTB Resolute tires on my gravel bike. Yesterday, I finally took the bike off asphalt and gravel roads and onto single track mountain bike trails. Outstanding performance. Not great for climbing on asphalt, but good in all other aspects.

  17. So what were those guys doing in 1892 during the first Liege Bastonge Liege? Looks like gravel to me… leave to hippie douche bags to think they invented shit.

  18. It began in France as soon as inflatable tire were invented, may be even earlier. That 700c standard assumes 622 mm rim diameter and 40 mm (gravel) tires, most were riding on gravel. Please stop pretending it's new. It's wonderful, but the oldest discipline in cycling.

  19. OUTSTANDING !!! Thanks for the history lesson JPOW, great stuff – keep it coming. Hats off to the tech support & editing team, truly great work!

  20. 1st of July 1903 there was a bike race in France. It was called Le Tour de France. I'm surprised you haven't heard of it. It's quite popular.

  21. as kids in Georgia, we rode bikes off-road almost exclusively. it didn't have a name, but if you ask any 50+ year old if the rode on trails the answer would be yes.

  22. In 1976 I had a 24” AMF drop bar ten speed that I rode everywhere including over jumps! In 1978 I broke the frame then bought my first BMX bike. We rode them HARD over everything. I can remember jumping over shopping carts.

  23. I dont know, for me that in video is MTB trail. Why chose a gravel bike for that? I see advantage of gravel bike on long, straight gravel roads, where aero comes into play. But not on steep rocky trails. Just my opinion.

  24. This is a horrible pseudo-history made up by current WTB. The drop bar mountain bike is due to Charlie Cunningham, who used to work for WTB but apparently left in 2002 and in such circumstances that they never talk about him in this video, though you can see him in photos in their bike shop. No one at WTB seems to care enough to mention one of the founders and their biggest innovators, he invented much more powerful roller brakes and essentially invented V-brakes.

    One of his bicycles is presented (apparently because the guy didn't understand that he wasn't supposed to be mentioned), but not with the drop bars that he and his wife Jacquie Phelan rode with drop bars in mountain bike races. She was numerous time world champion using this setup.

    The worst thing about this is that Charlie Cunningham is apparently in very poor health right now.

  25. Yep, very cool. Not sure if that is gravel riding. Probably more a MTB descent. So let's explore where gravel and cyclocross have come from, because not sure I really know?

  26. I like Jeremy, I think he has great energy and clearly loves riding but maybe next time he asks people questions he should give them a chance to answer. Question askers shouldn't talk more than the question answerers.

  27. GCN has done a disservice to the cycling scene of that era by putting them in a click-bait 'gravel' box. The idea that they were just riding gravel is absurd. It was/is more than that. Equally absurd is the idea that repack was the start of riding bikes on gravel. Bikes were riding gravel roads since before the turn of the century. And never stopped. You have to live in a pretty insular world to ever convince yourself gravel riding started somewhere in Western America.

  28. Marin's a paradise to ride, until the fog really starts rolling in hard, and you're a little bonky and wet with sweat and you've still got miles to go. Then paradise turns into hell on earth. Epic place.

  29. When is GCN going to get you a kit that isn't lycra? Also, for your to and on repack, can you talk about the difference between riding a gravel bike vs a mountain bike? Is there an advantage to one vs another? Thanks for the content!

  30. Wait, are you sure that Jeremy should be a GCN presenter? I mean, he is actually able to do something that could be on Extreme Corner.

  31. You guys should do a video of riding the entire Bay Area Ridge Trail it literally circles the perimeter of the Bay Area from San Jose up the Peninsula, SF, East Bay and back. Loved the history in this video.

  32. YOU can just tell that is some GENUINE Stoke from J-Pow after cleaning the descent. What a cool reaction from a GCN presenter. Keep 'em comin', Jeremy!!

  33. WTB really needs to bring the Nano out in a 47mm size as 2.1"(53mm) is a 3mm to wide for my bike and 40mm is too small for my taste.

  34. Jeremy, you missed the best part of Fairfax and an important hub of cycling history, the Marin Museum of Bicycling. You rode right by it on your way to Splitrock for dinner. You probably took a selfie in front of the Ibis Maximus sculpture in the parking lot. Come on back and visit for more stories and bikes including the history of the mountain bike, as well of the evolution of the bicycle in the 19th century and more. The museum is also the home of the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame. Check out the website mmbhof.org.

  35. I really look forward to Jeremy's content. He is an energetic, enthusiastic and fun loving presenter! GCN scored when they hired him. I wish Emma was still a presenter. Really miss her smart, humble, knowledgeable and tough as nails demeanor.

  36. Dudes like Frank Scurlock & Hans Schneider were riding gravel on road bikes with sew-up clement campione del mundos etc in the 80s in and around College Station TX. &they showed the rest of us.

  37. Nobody doubts that these chaps didn't invent off road bikes/cycling but it isn't it about a group of people who invented a sport? Actually more than one.

  38. None of the comments to this vid were read out on the GCN show? Are they a little embarrassed by the ridicule? Paid promotion cancelling out reality nowadays it seems.
    I've been a bit of a fan of GCN since (almost) the beginning but since the takeover they seem more into advertising, production value and fake humour over good content. If that's your thing fine but it seems such a shame. I loved it in the old days but watch maybe 5% of the content now. The odd vid is still great but most seem to be just fillers.
    (edit) I do still make use of the old indoor training vids though. Just off for an hour of power and endurance with Mr. Stephens.

  39. Excellent presenting as always Jeremy. I especially liked the over enthusiastic jump on the descent that almost ended in the bushes.

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