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Has The Tour de France Really Changed?! | The GCN Show Ep. 289

Has The Tour de France Really Changed?! | The GCN Show Ep. 289

– From a ditch, in the
middle of the West Indies repairing a puncture, welcome to the GCN show. – It is the GCN show. Once again brought to you
by our mates over at Wiggle. – This week, retro versus
modern Tour de France. Has the tour really changed
from its glorious past? More exciting, less exciting? Easier, harder? More or less punctures thrown? – Yeah we’ve also got the
winner of that amazing Orbea Orca aero disc bike. Are you that lucky person? Find out later in the show, just after we see Si hop over to France to check out some lightweight
tech from the Tour. – I’m ready. (“Because I Know” by Viper Creek Club) – This week in the world of cycling we learned that if you’re
a little bit concerned about motors on bikes
at the Tour de France, you needn’t be, because this is what really happens when a road bike races an e-bike. (suspenseful music) – That is great work from
Specialized there, as always. And then we also learned this week that dog’s might be a human’s best friend, but bike riders might
be a dog’s best friend. This is a photo of Columbo getting rescued from the woods by Jarrett Little. Now poor Columbo was left abandoned, half-starved, battered, and broken. But thanks to Jarrett, he’s now fit, healthy, and
with an adoptive family. – He’s also got his own Facebook page with quite a large following on there. – [Simon] He’ll be happy with that. – Turns out that the rescuer, Jarrett, is also pretty handy on a mountain bike. Not only did he come third in his category at the national championships
in the USA last weekend, he also, pretty impressive, practiced in a rock garden. – Have you ever rescued
an animal on a ride? – I once had to put a
squirrel out of its misery because it had been slightly chopped up but not quite killed after it run through my mate’s Spinergy Force front wheel. – That’s not the same thing at all, is it? Was it a gray squirrel or a red squirrel? (squeaks) – Bit of both actually. Started off gray… Actually we did rescue a sheep, remember? – We did! We did rescue a sheep. – I believe we’ve got that on video. – [Dan] There we go. – [Simon] Whoa! – Now I want to move on, Dan, but I’m just quite intrigued, actually. How did you do it? – What? – The squirrel. – Oh I see. Well, I must admit we did
contemplate for quite some time, he refused to do it to start with, even though it was his fault. I ended up just sort of taking
it and aimed run up and– – OK, right, moving on then. Right, we’ll need to leave it there. So (laughs). I don’t know about you guys, but I’ve got that image in my head now. – I’ve had it in there for 25 years. (laughing) – Right. Seriously, let’s move on. (laughing) There seems to be more talk than ever at the Tour de France this year that things are changing. You know like, domination
from one big team, the fact that fans get
in the way of the racing, the fact that tech is getting
in the way of the racing. – Or that the Tour route is too easy. Or in fact, too hard,
some people would say. – Yeah exactly. But is that just a case of nostalgia, you know like the good old days, or is the Tour actually changing? – Retro versus modern. – Yeah. – I think we should probably start with the domination of Team Sky, shall we? I think it’s fair to say that they have controlled the Tour de France
with a pretty cast iron grip for five of the last six years, and it has got people moaning. But why? I mean is it, happened before? – Well yeah. It’s happened plenty of
times before, hasn’t it? I mean just think of
the great Eddie Merckx, he used to buy up talent
to have as his teammates as opposed to having them as competition, and that’s kind of now part of the legend of the man, isn’t it? The Cannibal and his all-conquering team. – But that is just the nature of cycling in many ways, isn’t it? Because the biggest rider,
the most dominant rider, ends up in the most dominant team, because that biggest rider
attracts the biggest sponsor, therefore his team has the biggest budget and therefore the best riders. – [Simon] Yeah. Problem with Peter Sagan, though, ’cause he’s biggest rider– – [Dan] He’s been attracting big sponsors. – Big sponsors but Peter
gets all the money. – He does, yeah. That’s true. – What about then the dynamic
at the head of the race. Now obviously we have two teammates, Thomas and Froome, in one-two. has that happened before? – Oh yeah, of course it has. Froome-Wiggins back in
2012, to start with. – [Simon] Yeah, and
then Riis-Ullrich, ’96. Hinault and LeMond twice. Wasn’t it ’85 and ’86? – Yeah that was that famous one, Si, 1960. – Nencini and Battistini, – You got it!
– Yeah. – Who did they ride for again? – Italy, national teams at the time. – Of course, like Coppi-Bartali, even more famous arguably in 1949. I suppose not all that many one-twos in the overall history of the Tour, but some of the best races. I mean no one would be
complaining if we had a rerun of Hinault-LeMond from 1986. Widely regarded as one of the
greatest Tours of all time. So yeah, if we get a
Thomas-Froome version of that– – [Dan] It’s almost annoying, isn’t it, that they’re not fighting
against each other in house, because that would be good. – [Simon] Well, maybe
behind the scenes, mate. – We don’t know.
– ‘Cause outwardly, Hinault was very supportive of his teammate LeMond, wasn’t he? Even though he was attacking
him whilst he was doing it. No, don’t worry, Greg, this attack’s just to secure your yellow jersey. Don’t you worry. – Chris Froome was annoyed when Geraint got the yellow, wasn’t he? Did you see the picture
that Team Sky put up? He’s trying to give him a left hook into the ribs there, isn’t he? – [Simon] Oof, that does
look nasty, doesn’t it? Yeah mate Gianni Moscon
just looks on, supportively. Go on, really get him where it hurts.
– Yeah, this is how you do it. (laughing) Alright, let’s move on to our next part, which is the safety risk that the fans are currently posing to the riders. Is this something new? Well, not according to Greg LeMond. This is what he said to Richard Moore whilst Rich was writing his book about that whole LeMond-Hinault saga. – A book called Slaying the Badger, which is subtly different I think to Spinergy-ing the squirrel, isn’t it? – Yes. – But anyway. Yeah, so LeMond said, and
I quote, “I was thinking “that there could be someone out there. “There was such a strong
feeling out there. “It was so frenzied. “And I’m racing against
France’s best-known athlete.” – Well-remembered. – Thanks mate, yeah. – Good quote, Si. There was also the fact that Eddy Merckx got punched, didn’t
he, on the Puy de Dome. – [Simon] Yes, he did, yeah. – Not sure what year that was. But ’92, if you remember, there was also a terrorist attack. Basque separatists decided to blow up a car in San Sebastian. So from that point of view, the risk and safety aspect
of the Tour this year is nothing new, although it does feel slightly
more out of control, maybe. – Yeah, but maybe that’s
the point, isn’t it? It feels more out of control, much like the rest of life, where actually statistically it’s no worse than it was before, maybe. – Or better. – Well yeah. OK then, what about
then the general kind of anti-Sky sentiment at the Tour? Well, it does seem that whoever is dominating the Tour
de France at one time ultimately ends up becoming disliked. I mean, even if they’re French. Jacques Anquetil famously
won five Tours de France and became ultimately
hated by the French public, who desperately, desperately
wanted the eternal second, Raymond Poulidor, to
eventually overcome Anquetil, and he never did. – No, he didn’t. Then there were the Indurain years. He dominated for that five year period. A minimum distance between himself and second place in that period, Three minutes and 36 seconds. – Oof. – I think it’s fair to say
he was never hated, Indurain, but in the end there was a
degree of animosity towards him because he didn’t win on the mountains, yet he annihilated people
in the time trials. – Yeah, I reckon it was because
he wore his hat so well. – [Dan] Was it boring though? – No, I don’t think it was. I mean I remember at the time people just loved the mystique with which this giant of a man used
to crush their opponents. But maybe then, it’s just because actually we ultimately think back
on things much more fondly than we did at the time– – Ah, nostalgia. That old chestnut. – Well, exactly. Now what about the race
itself then, has that changed? Well the length has decreased since its peak of nearly 6,000 kilometers, but interestingly if you go back to the Tour de France
30 years ago, so 1988, that was actually shorter. – Was it really? – Yeah, 3,200 kilometers as
opposed to 3,300 kilometers, and it had 22 stages as opposed to 21. – Did not know that. I assumed that the Tours had all got shorter in recent years. – Yeah I did but no. – Well about the speeds then? We stumbled across this
quite interesting graph on Wikipedia of all places, which shows how speeds have
progressed at the Tour, and they have got faster over the years, but not in the last few years. – And what about the tech then? A lot of people saying that science is changing cycling at the Tour de France. Now we know in fact that it’s
probably not best practice to sit on a steak for 300
kilometers and then eat it. – No, exactly. Well actually the guys
over on the Tech Channel on the show this week are
going to be discussing whether it’s actually
the tech that will decide the winner of this year’s race. But has the tech changed
much over the years? – Well yeah, I think
maybe it has, actually. Firstly, aerodynamics. Now the aerodynamics of
riders and bikes has improved. I think almost paradoxically it seems like it’s harder to get away on flat stages, because as the speed of
everyone has increased, therefore it’s actually
harder to make the difference, because the wind resistance
has a greater impact. – Very true. There’s also power meters, and no doubt they’ve changed the way that the Tour is raced. So before, if you’re in a yellow jersey and your closest rival attacked, if you could, you would go with them. I mean why would you
allow your closest rival to get any kind of distance
between him and you? Whereas now with modern technology, you’re pretty aware that
they’re probably not going to be able to sustain the power
they’re doing in that attack, and you can only do what you do. The power you can sustain is the power you can sustain, really. – Yeah. It’s easier said than done, being incents to ride at
a certain power, isn’t it? But equally, yeah. It’s sometimes not I mean the most dynamic or interesting way to race a bike race, but equally you can’t
exactly blame someone for riding in the best way for them. – [Dan] Not at all. – [Simon] It’s kind of
sensible, isn’t it really? – Right. What do you guys at home think? Are you enjoying this
year’s Tour de France, or is it not the same for you anymore? For me personally, well if I’m perfectly honest, I’m quite enjoying this
dynamic at the moment. It has changed over the years, but then so has my
relationship with the race. Before, as a young lad, it felt like such a long way away, and now I’ve been
fortunate enough to do it and be around it with GCN now. And to be honest if you look back at 2012, I’m sure at the time you think you know, Wiggins is dominating, he’s
just clinging on to the climbs and dominating the time trials. I think we’ll look back at
this in five or six years time and think that was a pretty cool race. – Yeah, absolutely. I’m absolutely loving this year’s race. When you think about
what could potentially happen in this final week, it’s actually far more finely poised than a lot of people are
giving it credit for. Sky haven’t got this
sewed up by any means, and that’s not even taking into account that they might suddenly
have a fist fight. See I think it’s going to be great. But yeah, let us know what you think. Actually, we should
have a vote about this. – Yes. – Is the Tour better
now than it used to be? So, let us know in– – In the poll. – In the poll. – That’s what I was about to say. We should give it a final
kiss of death, shouldn’t we? A last prediction for the final week. Who’s going to win the Tour this year? Place your bets. I’m going to do Dumoulin. – OK, that’s alright ’cause I was gonna go Thomas. Go Thomas! (horn playing) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – Cycling Shorts now. We’re gonna start with
a Tour du Mont Blanc, which is supposedly the
world’s hardest one day race. 330 kilometers. – [Dan] That’s not that, the Dirty Kanza, is that length, isn’t it? – [Simon] 8,000 meters of climbing. – [Dan] Whoa, OK. – Yeah, and when you take
that into consideration, the finish time is almost unbelievable. So Nico Roux, French
ultra-endurance legend, won it again this year in a record time of 11 hours 17 minutes. That’s an average speed of 28Ks an hour. – Wow. – Yeah. And the women’s race almost
unbelievable as well, 13 hours 46 minutes for Sylvia. 24Ks an hour, that time. – Can tell he’s been in France recently. – Oui. – Your French is brilliant at the moment. – Merci. – In fact, a lot of the world’s eyes, at least the cycling world’s eyes, will be on the ultra-endurance
world on Sunday, won’t they? Because Tour de France finishes, but a new event starts in the form of the Transcontinental
self-supported Race across Europe. In fact, Katharine is going
to head over to Flanders for the start of that to get
some really cool content. Stay tuned for that. – Absolutely. I can’t wait for that. Now, can we just back up just one sec to iconic French mountains once again. Because Mont Ventoux
was this week announced as the finish line for a new
race, a new one day race. UCI 1.1, which means that it’s a big deal, but it’s not like a mega big deal, and it’s gonna take place in the week after the Criterium du Dauphine finishes. – Yeah, that placement does make me wonder how many hitters are gonna turn out to it, being as it is quite close
to the Tour de France and quite a lot of traveling
involved I guess for one day– – Yeah, but– – Still cool, still cool. – But, super cool, because I
think that’s the only day race that finishes at the top
of a mountain, right? – Well you did that Taiwan KOM Challenge. Nowhere near as prestigious–
– Taiwan KOM Challenge. – Anyone can get into that. – Mont Ventoux, no KOM challenge. Have we ever said how epic that was? – Yeah, but easy to get into. – Yeah, OK. – Anyway. Most of you will be aware
of Team Sky’s campaign during the Tour de France. That kind of headline
grabbing, whale saving, reducing plastics mission
that they’ve go going on, but Trek-Drops, the women’s pro team seem to have gone even
a step better than that, because they have partnered up with Every Can Counts. – Or, Chaque Canette Compte. Or, I like this one, Cada Leta Cuenta. – [Dan] Cada Leta Cuenta. – See it in Spain. Basically they are an
organization or organizations, I couldn’t quite work it out, that aim to raise awareness, effectively making informed
choices about what you consume. The idea being that a drinks
can is infinitely recyclable, whereas a plastic bottle is not. And so here you go, if you’re in Europe keep your eyes peeled for a Trek-Drops limited edition one. I’ve never had mineral
water out of a can before. – I don’t think I have either. I generally have it out of a bottle. Well anyway–
– Not anymore, mate. Should we try it? – Well if I can go first,
don’t want sloppy seconds. – No, I’m going first. – Right, we’ve also been
sent a book, Si, haven’t we, consume your mineral water, from Mark Beaumont. You look great taking a sip from that can, must have been much better
than with a plastic bottle. This is from Mark Beaumont,
Around the World in 80 Days. You’ll remember his record breaking round the world trip on a bike. Now written a book, too. – Yeah, it’s a big book considering he only did it in 78 days. But to be fair I’m really looking forward to reading that actually. Very, very interesting. You’ll also know as well that we’ve got a couple of videos on the
channel from last year, if you want to check that out as well before you read the book. – Now it seems that
public bike hire schemes are either, well depending on the week, a massive super fast-growing
moneymaking machine that’s set to revolutionize
the entire world, or on their knees. – What is it this week, Dan? – On its knees. – Ah, no. – This is according to
the website, Quartz. Ofo are apparently in rapid
retreat over in North America, and that’s just the
latest of the countries, because before that there was Israel, Australia,
Germany, and the UK, too. – Yeah, now we must stress
this is just one company and not the entire industry. But sticking with urban
cycling for a moment, some very good news, and that is that a long
running piece of research has just concluded that actually pollution is not a barrier to exercise. – Yeah, this is from the Journal of the American Heart Association, which doesn’t sound like a real
name, but apparently it is. Anyway, their findings showed
that you are better off exercising in a polluted area, despite of course breathing
in more polluted air than you are not exercising at all. So if you are questioning whether or not you should commute to work in
a city, there’s you answer. – Absolutely. More evidence to show that
riding to work is good for you. And now, there was this
week as well some news with regards to Bradley
Wiggins and a Jiffy bag. – There was yes. He was on ITV during their
Tour de France coverage and he opened up quite
significantly on one particular day, amongst other things, he said that DCMS report was fabricated. He also said he’s
getting daily information which is completely shocking
and that there are a few people quaking in their boots when
this information comes out. – I tell you what, I’m
quite intrigued, actually. – It’s the GCN Wiggle of Fortune, and the last one this week. – Yeah but we’re gonna go out in style, because this week’s contestant, Max Schroeder from Germany,
(applauding) stands to win double. Yeah, that’s right, 50,
100, 150, or 300 pound Wiggle vouchers are up for grabs. – Or also, two beers this week. – That’s right, two beers.
– Fingers crossed for the Lloydster. – I’ve got my fingers crossed for both the Lloydster and Max as well. They probably cancel each
other out, don’t they? – Here is goes then. In three, in two, in one, and we’re off! Best of luck to you!
– Spin the wheel. – [Dan] Okay the beer has gone. – [Simon] No, yes. – [Dan] Three, two, one four. – Come on Max, come on Max!
– He wants one, he wants one! – Come on Max, come on Max!
– He wants one! – Come on Max, oh he’s gonna do it! – [Both] Oh! – At least it’s double, he gets 50 quid. – [Simon] 50 quid, there we go. (pops) – That was so close. I feel bad for Max–
– I feel bad for Max. – But yeah 50 pounds
of vouchers from Wiggle to spend on anything you’d like. – He’s not gonna feel bad, he’s just got 50 quid to spend at Wiggle. Yeah there we go. Right, now do not be dismayed, because your opportunity
to win some pretty hefty Wiggle vouchers each
week is not disappearing, we’re simply changing it, because in the Wiggle of Fortune’s place is gonna be inspirational
riding photo of the week, equally catchily named. – Yeah, the premise is
really quite simple. Each week you can upload
a photo to Instagram using the hashtag, #GCNINSPIRATION, and the idea being that it’s a really cool cycling
related shot that inspires the rest of us to head out
and go out on our bikes. – Yeah, it doesn’t have to
be snow-capped mountains, or it could be if that’s
what you got access to. It could be by the sea instead, or a particularly picturesque forest. In fact, it could be an urban environment or kind of gritty black and white– – Raw. – A bit of graffiti, yeah. Or like a sunset or sunrise. – What is really important
to point out though too is that it does not matter how expensive or cheap your bike is,
how good or bad it is, this is all about just
getting out there, really, which is where Wiggle come in, because they want to reward
the best three entries as chosen by us each and every week. So third place each
week will get 50 pounds of vouchers to spend at Wiggle. Second place 75 pounds. Top prize each week is 100 pounds, (applauding)
to spend on anything you’d like over on their online shop. – Yeah, and can we stress
that we cannot be bribed, no matter how many beers
you try sending Dan, not for bribing. No honestly, not for bribing. So anyway, get out there this
week, stop, take a moment, take a snap of the most inspirational place you find yourself, and then send it in. – Tech of the Week now
and we are off to France to look at some lightweight
tech from the Tour. We being you, Si. – (speaks in foreign language) OK, now here’s a bit of a scoop, we’ve just intercepted these
Mavic Comete Ultimate Shoes which are on their way to Romain Bardet. OK, so apparently, he had a crash in that first week obviously and then his shoes suffered a
little bit of cosmetic damage, so just to make sure that
they’re in perfect condition, they’re replacing them
with these, a new pair, which are customized ever so slightly. So these shoes have got
a carbon shell on them with an inner bootie, so
he’s kept his booties. And then these are the new shell, they opened the windows a little bit more just to accommodate his feet, but the thing I’ve been
particularly fascinated with is the fact that he’s swapping his shoes in the middle of a Grand
Tour, and you can see he’s got a brand new
cleat on there as well. But they tell me there is a
hack to actually make sure that your cleat is in
exactly the same place. So they get foam, like the kind of things you use when flower arranging, you all know what I’m
talking about, right? And they do an imprint of
the shoe and the cleats, the old one, meaning that then they’ve got a literal template to
stick the new one in. Never heard of that before,
what an amazing hack. Flower arranging hack, for your shoes. Now behind me we’ve got one
of the team cars of Movistar. This is Alejandro Valverde’s spare bike. Now couple of things really
interest me about this. Firstly, given that he’s been
around for quite a while, relatively old school kind
of chap, you’d have thought. He’s running a 36 inner ring there and he’s got a whopper of
a cassette on the back, and that gives him a pretty
low gear ratio, obviously, for some of these steeper
climbs in the Alps. And the other thing is take
a look at that position. Look how far forward that
saddle is on the seat post. That’s a super slammed position, with a whopper of a 120 stem on as well. Right then, Colbrelli and Haussler though are sticking with their aero bikes. Colbrelli’s rocking out
the new Vision Metron aero one piece bar and stem, and then take a look at that as well. The custom paint job for Gorka Izagirre. That’s pretty cool, isn’t it? The new Prologo saddle there. It’s called a Scratch Two, quite like the idea of that. A little scratch. The Mitchelton-Scott Team,
only three guys choosing to run the super light Addict, one of which, perhaps
unsurprisingly, is Adam Yates. That’s a flipping cool
looking bike, isn’t it? And he also, notice there,
the chain’s been waxed. Nice touch. No lube, just wax. – Racing News now, and
we are going to start with La Course by Tour de France, because although it was
exactly a week ago in fact now, that was one of the best
races of the year, wasn’t it? – Oh it was, absolutely. Starting in Annecy And then
finishing in Le Grand-Bornand last Tuesday, as you say Dan. Included the climbs of the Col de Romme and the Col de la Colombiere, which was where the cream
of the crop rose to the top. – Nice one, Si. – Thanks mate. – But you’re right. We had Ashley Moolman-Pasio on that climb and she was with the Dutch duo. Firstly, Annemiek van
Vleuten fresh from the Giro, well not so fresh from
the Giro race, in fact. She won that race, only
had one day to recover after a 10 day race. And then Anna van der
Breggen, and who was fresh, because she’d skipped the Giro to focus on her Mountain Bike World Cup. – Yeah, and what a nail-bitter
it turned out to be, van Vleuten just managing
to overall van der Breggen in the last 100 meters of the race. And you gotta say, in stark
contrast to the men’s race, which finished a few hours later. – Yeah, true that. Talking of the men’s race, some of the biggest talking points there have been about who’s no
longer there, haven’t we? So we’ve had fractures for Nibali and Richie Porte, they’re out. The sprinters have been having some trouble in the mountains. And then on Sunday, there was a– – Yeah, on Sunday, Team
Sky rider Gianni Moscon was disqualified from the race for, well punching Elie Gesbert
of Fortuneo Samsic. – He was, yes, and it’s
gonna be interesting to see whether he’s still with
Team Sky next year. Last year you remember, he
was sidelined for a few weeks after admitting to racist
comments towards Kevin Reza. Then we was also accused of
pushing Sebastien Rechenbach off his bike at another race. – Yeah, and Sky did say in a statement after the Reza affair that if Moscon was to do anything again, they’d let him go. – They did. Although, they might claim
that this wasn’t racism, but rather just physical abuse. So he might get off on a technicality. – Yeah, common old garden of salt, there. And let’s face it, Sky don’t seem all that fussed about PR,
more about performance. So, maybe, I don’t know. We’ll see what they do. – We will see. In other news, the big talking
point is the dual leadership of Team Sky with Thomas and Froome, and also Tom Dumoulin in the mix. It is certain to be a very
exciting final six days of racing which is a good time
to remind you, in fact, we’ve got daily highlights and discussion of each and every stage
over on our Facebook page, so make sure you stay tuned to that. And, if there’s one–
– Particularly. – Stage that you make sure that you watch, it has to be stage 17 on Wednesday. 65 kilometers, three mountains, and a gridding system to start. – [Simon] It sounds like
it might be a gimmicky, but boy are we excited. That is gonna be an
absolute pearler, isn’t it? So there we go. Could it shape the race? Maybe. – I reckon it will. Do you know who’s got
the KOM on that route? – No, who’s got the KOM on that route? – Ollie Bridgewood. – [Simon] Ollie Bridgewood? How many people are behind him? – None. He created the segment himself. – Oh, I suppose one’s way
of getting a KOM, I suppose. – It is, yeah. I think it might be beaten on Wednesday, if I’m perfectly honest. – Yeah, maybe he kind of did a
funny little bit at the start and then none of the Tour riders
would get the same segment. If I was Ollie, I’d have done that. – That would be quite funny actually. – Yeah, there’s some other news as well, racing news this week, isn’t it? Very quickly. – Yeah, Andre Greipel has
separated from Lotto-Soudal, didn’t seem to be a
particularly agreeable one, judging by the statement
they put out on Twitter. And the 50 mile time trial
record here in the UK has been at the moment unofficially broken by Marcin Bialoblocki, I’m not very good at that name. But incredible time, and
hour and a half just over. An average speed of 33.3 miles per hour, which is well over 50Ks per hour. – That’s staggering time, isn’t it? – Giveaway time now. We’ve got a couple of winners to announce. Before we get onto them though, there’s a new giveaway for you this week. Three pairs of Fizik
Infinito Knits to give away. These are the shoes in
fact that Geraint Thomas is using at the moment
at the Tour de France, and we recently saw three new colorways released at the Eurobike show. – They’re so nice. Can I say that? So Ollie went and had a
look at them on day one, and even though we didn’t
need to go there obviously, because Ollie had already filmed it, I had to go and have a little look myself. – Did you? – Yeah, they are proper nice. – Wasting time when you could have get in more new tech for videos? – I skipped lunch to go and have a look. (laughs) Yeah, saving time–
– He was genuinely excited about it, I got a text. – Yeah, right, anyway. So there we go, make
sure click on the link in the description for this video if you want to enter that one, and I strongly suggest you do. But for now, as Dan said,
we’ve got some results for you. Firstly, the results of the
Orbea Orca Aero disc Team-D 19 with the option of creating
that custom colorway– – Such a cool ride.
– using their MyO. So yeah. And the winner is one very, very lucky. – There’s got to be a drum roll for it. I’m quite nervous. (drumming on table) ‘Cause I know you’re all nervous, too. – Congratulations Fabien Beaujean. There we go. – [Dan] Going to be
leaping out of his seat, isn’t he, with that prize? Absolutely amazing. – Absolutely, make sure
you send us a picture of your new custom
colorway when it turns up. Yeah, I’m quite jealous actually. That’s an amazing prize.
– I am too. I couldn’t enter it. – Alright, prize number two. – Yeah, it is the GCN Fan Kit Jersey. This was a giveaway we were running over on our Facebook page. The winner of the jersey is– (drumming on table) Andrew Ferguson here in the UK. (applauding) We’ll be in touch, we’ll
get that out to you as soon as possible. If you weren’t lucky enough to win one, they are still available over at Speaking of which, we’ve got a couple of other bits to tell you. First up, this specific t-shirt, which is the July special
edition yellow on white. – Nicely folded, Dan. – Thank you very much. It’s currently available at
the special price of 50% off. – [Simon] Wow, that’s
pretty cool, isn’t it? – Yes. There should be a
link on the screen right now, if not, it’ll be at the end of the show. – Also there is another one. If you buy the Fan Kit
Bundle, you get a free cap, which is pretty cool at the moment, so do make sure you head
over, check out the shop. Show your support for GCN. – Hack, forward slash, Si, Bodge of the Week–
– Crikey, it’s been a couple weeks. – A reminder that’s
#GCNHACK, if you would like to send in your hacks or bodge photos. First up, we have this
one from Luke Jackson. Custom T T grips made
from polycaprolactone, or polymorph Garmin mount sits in, so it’s behind my hands,
knees to glance down at SRAM eTap. – With homemade blips,
and not pretty, Luke. I mean really not pretty, but I suppose when
you’re holding your bike, at least that’s not so bad. But yeah, I guess if it’s comfortable, be like Romain Bardet,
customizing his Shimano Dura-Ace levers. – I always give homemade blips a hack. Just because I wouldn’t
be able to do it myself. Doubt I could do many
of these things myself. I could probably do this
next one though, Si. – Now that, that looks like a hack there. What happens if you’ve got a Team Sky kit, but you want the new one with
a killer whale on the back? There we go. So this is @busyklista. – I see what he did there, Biciclista. – Oh yeah I like that, yeah nice. Good Instagram name as well. So there we go, stick a little
orca in your back pocket, and away you go. – [Dan] Hack, from us. – That’s quite cool that. You could have a little dog–
– Another cool Instagram – In there as well, and
then you’d be rescuing like Columbo back at the start. – Oh that’s true, yeah. Forgot about dear old Columbo. Another great Instagram
named @lazydaysaway. Barbecue emergency, GCN hack. So they have put the umbrella
and put it over the barbecue with a bike stand. – Ingenious. I think that’s probably a bodge, isn’t it? Barbecuing in the rain like
that, but still, nice work. – Just use the oven.
– Alright this one then, from @shempshempshemp, when you discover your
narrow wide ring is toasted and you’re riding early in the morning, you bodge it with an old front derailleur. There you go. Front derailleur’s actually
do a pretty good job of keeping a chain on, don’t you? So yeah, I’d say that’s a
bodge as well, isn’t it? But still–
– Yeah a bit of a bodge, sorry. – Next–
– Also, why have you chopped the back of your mech off? – Should we move on? – Yeah, just maybe you
could answer in a postcard why you’ve chopped half
of your derailleur off. – Yeah, PO box… Next up, I’m gonna say
this one is a hack, Si. Here’s a video from
@engineering_first_principle who found a neat and easy
way to fasten a bottle cage onto a bike frame. – Well that is pretty ingenious. I’m not sure why you’d want
a quick release bottle cage, I mean I suppose it’s mildly
more aerodynamic, isn’t it? But, nevertheless, that
is a nice way of doing it. There we go, yeah fair play. I’ll give that a hack even if I can’t understand the reason why. Next up–
– Hack from me as well, by the way. – What about this one? I saw this bar tape protection cover, seems to be leather with a metal zipper, on a hipster bike. Wow. – Hmm. – Yeah, I’m not sure
I’d want a metal zipper on my bar tape, but there we go. It’s kind of in keeping
with the retro bike there. – [Dan] Yeah, don’t know if you need to protect bar tape, do you? Just change it. – Yeah, it’s a valid point, actually. – There was a proper hack
a couple of weeks ago where when it got dirty,
he just unwrapped it and wrapped it in a different direction and it had the clean part exposed. That was genius. – That is a proper hack, that one. Yeah, there we go. I mean it’s a proper thing, isn’t it? But so I’d say, it’s kind
of neither a hack nor bodge, maybe just a bit of a waste? Anyway, there we go. Right, that’s a shame
to leave it on a downer, but that is the end of Hack
or Bodge for this week. If you think you can beat said bar tape protection cover with a zipper, then why not send in
you photos or you videos using the hashtag #GCNHACK on
most forms of social media. – Moving on now to our
Caption Competition, your weekly chance to win a
GCN Camelbak water bottle. Last week’s photo was
this one of Yoann Offredo at the Tour de France last week. We have a winner of the
bottle and that person is Stuart Cannel with this caption, “A curry a day keeps the peloton away.” – See what you did there, Stuart. I like that one. That’s a good one. A worthy winner of said GCN water bottle. – And get in touch on Facebook
via message with your address and we’ll send that out to you. – Yeah, right. This week’s photo for you to
get your teeth stuck into, remember if you want to enter, just got to stick your comment in, no your caption in the
comments section down below. You’d have thought I’d
have worked that out now, after four years.
– It’s been four years. – Right, anyway. Here is Romain Bardet,
and can I get it started? – [Dan] Go on in. – So concerned with personal
security was Romain Bardet that he became a mobile CCTV unit. – Leave your captions in
the comments section below. – Did you see what, did you get it? – Yeah. – OK. He got it. OK, he got it. – We have got loads of
content coming up for you over the next seven days. We’re about to tell
you exactly what it is. First up though, four
comments that tickled us from last week’s videos. First up underneath last week’s GCN Show, this from Russell, “Is Dan Olly’s boss “because I’ve never seen
someone laugh that hard “at Dan’s jokes?” – [Simon] That’s a valid point, actually. – And the answer is yes. (laughs) – You’re the boss of everyone
here, aren’t you mate? – Yeah. – Apart from Oscar, who’s the new boss. Right but underneath
the Angliru challlenge, Matheus Barbosa, “I
used to be a fan of GCN, “now I’m an air conditioner. “Good work everyone!” – I see what you did there. – Yeah that’s pretty cool. – Underneath–
– And thank you, by the way. Very much. – Underneath’s 5 Reasons
You’re Slowing Yourself Down, Niels Heldens, a regular commenter, as many of you all know, “I don’t do any of these,
I guess I’m just slow.” With an amazing use of
icons on the computer to create a face with a sort of– – Wow!
– Can’t do that. – Yeah. – He’s genuinely stunned. How does he do that?
– Incredible! – I’d imagine copy and paste, Si, but don’t want to take anything away from you, Niels.
– Yeah but someone did it once didn’t they? – Not Neils. – Right then, finally
under Ask GCN Anything, Dave Pratt said the “Best
way not to get dropped “is to ride with slower friends.” – Yeah, good tactic that. – Yeah you can’t argue with that, can you? – Although the best way to improve, ride with faster friends. – Yeah, it’s difficult though isn’t it? – Not too much faster, you need to be able to keep up, but still. – Choose your friends wisely. – On the channel this week on Wednesday, we have got the 5 Most Common
Tour de France Injuries and indeed how to treat them. And also, I’m not sure
if we told you that, but Si was out in France last week. France. He spent a day with Mavic Neutral Service. – [Simon] Mavic, actually. – Mavic Neutral Service, so
we got a really cool video coming up for you on that. On Friday, I’m up to Friday yet? No, Thursday Canyon SRAM bus tour. And on Friday, even more French, because Si did a truck tour of AG2R, the Tour (speaking foreign language). – La Mondiale. I tell you what, there’s
some proper cool stuff in that truck. Really interesting, actually. Got some team bikes, a
little Ultegra going on, they got Ceramic Speed
coming out their ears. It’s absolutely brilliant. Right, Saturday it’s our last episode of Get Fit Quick with Chris Opie, so well hopefully you are well on your way to getting fit quick now, but he’ll put the icing
on the cake on Saturday. Then on Sunday we’ve got two
super cool videos for you. Firstly, Emma was on the starting line at La Course and she was,
did I say that right? La Course. And she was asking the
riders what they had in their pockets for that pretty epic day, and then she also went for
a little ride, slash race, with the future stars
of the Tour de France, who get to race over
the opening and closing kilometers of the Tour de France. So there’s a super cool
video with those guys coming out soon, too. Where are we up to? Sunday, no that was Sunday, wasn’t it? – Monday’s Race News Show.
– Oh yeah with Dan. – Tuesday we’re back
here for the GCN show, but there’s a bonus
video next Tuesday, too. – Yeah that’s right. Katharine will be telling us
all about the Transcontinental. What it is, what to expect, and who are the stars to watch out for. – Busy, busy, busy. – Yeah. – We shall finish this week with the welcome return of Extreme Corner. At the Tour de France, not
particularly extreme, is it? – No. – Until this happens. What’s this guy’s name? – Alexis Bosson. – Thank you, let’s take
a look at what he did. – My word.
– Talk about spectators posing a danger in the Tour de France, imagine if that went wrong. – Yeah, well fair play to him. It’s an easy jump but with
quite a high element of risk if you get it wrong. – I once managed to jump
over seven people lying down. – Did you really? – Yeah. – Was one of them a squirrel on the end? (laughs) – Put him out of his misery. (squeaks) Was a gray squirrel. – Right, we better leave it there, Dan, for this week. That’s enough squirrel jokes, anyway. If you want to watch
another video here on GCN then 7 Ways You’re Slowing Yourself Down was an absolute belter, so if you haven’t seen that,
do make sure you check it out. And also, of course, head
over to GCN’s shop as well as we were talking about
earlier in the week. – End show. – Oh yeah, sorry. I’ll end the show.

97 comments on “Has The Tour de France Really Changed?! | The GCN Show Ep. 289

  1. While I am enjoying the tour, it is hard not to associate team Sky’s dominance with the elephant in the room that the guys did not address-the cheating of US Postal. It is hard not to associate team Sky, which is the most exciting, with the Postal years of cheating. The Froome issue, and it’s questionable resolution, does not help their cause.

  2. Fun fact regarding the video thumbnail: Jan Ullrich and Geraint Thomas even were on the same team (alongside Mark Cavendish)!

  3. I've been watching the Tour for at least 35 years. This years the aggressiveness against Sky and Froome in particular seems to me to be unprecedented. The organizers have to think of ways of keeping it safe for the riders.

  4. Caption: No Romain, it's not a microphone, but you can continue to keep "romaing" through the crowds for interviews.

  5. Nibali and Porte were out early , that made it impossible that the Sky team be challenged enough to crack. Quintana pretty disappointing since you would expect him to be the best in the mountains due to his lack in time trial. Dumoulin needs a better team, given the fact he is mostly isolated early in the mountains his performance is outstanding, one or two better leutnants and he will be on par with Sky. TDF for me promised to be potentially the one where Sky loses their dominance but since the above mentioned happened it was clear after half of the stages that Sky will win it , again .

  6. 🙂 thanks for that…was definitely worth having a puncture in the middle of a jungle! Keep the French up 🙂 !!!

  7. Great show as always 🙂 A thought about the GCN club socks , what about themed socks eg Geraint Thomas's (likely win TDF) green and white with the Red dragon on the rear (similar graphic placement to founders sock) . Perhaps a small yellow line or cuff at the top !? #GCNCC @GCNCLUB

  8. The removable bottle cage is a design trek does and supplies for their cx bikes. Water for training no water for racing

  9. The TDF is worse than it use to be mostly because it's about the organizers making huge amounts of money. I'd love to see the French government manage it; making it about the passion – make the stages longer, the number of stages longer and getting the fans off the road.

  10. Plastic bottles vs aluminium cans – that's really not a great choice…in Germany they"ve been using reusuble glass-bottles for all sorts of beverages forever and that system works really well…would be better to promote that than aluminum cans…

  11. to answer Si's question at 29:57 I always take my cages off before I do my weekly local 10 mile TT (marginal gains and such) which is a bit of a pain. QR cage mount would be something I'd consider at least.

  12. I'm enjoying the TDF however the only thing that lets is down is the despicable behaviour of the French spectators, they behave like petulant children.

  13. Caption: Now that Bardet is out of contention for the overall he's decided to find Pokemon in the French countryside.

  14. Caption: French camera bikes go on strike so Bardet has his own hack to bring us live footage from the tour.

  15. The biggest change to the TDF – our ability to watch basically the entire race from start to finish in a variety of formats, commentators and languages! When I first became interested in cycling (mid 70's) I remember going to a crappy bookstore in Parma, Ohio (James Books at Ridge and Snow Roads) to peruse a week-old "LeMonde" for results and a few pictures.

  16. You mentioned the only race that finished at the top of a mountain. Years ago I raced the Mt. Evans race in Colorado, the highest paved road! The pace was slow and I was ready to make a break when I fainted and fell down! Riding to the top in the sag wagon with a headache was memorable. Cycling down at high speed passing cars was unforgettable. The brake blocks were worn all the way down.

  17. hands down these are the best 2 presenters, no real offense to the others ur all great but if i had to pick 2 . . .
    caption. Johnny 5 is not alive.
    80's reference.

  18. Let's say it has been quite the challenge for many if not most this year. APPRECIATE you two without doubt; catering to an international audience with spare emotion and fundamentally astute information for everyone willing to listen and i feel privileged to so do. I'm enjoying every bit and piece of this year's Tour; especially considering the monetization that has occurred the last decade… Hopeful there is still some semblance of hope for young American racers as more and more of their generation have stopped exercising..

  19. The part that really made me aware of how much things have changed, was when I looked back and found out it wasn't long ago they got it into their thick skulls to start wearing helmets!
    Today that seems as insane to me as reading about the guy way back who wanted doctors to start washing their hands between operations, to maybe keep people from dying as much.

  20. Question. How do Tour de France rides know or not know that someone is not going to back their car into the race, say 100 kilometres in the country? How safe is it?

  21. Lads what speed do the Tour de France riders do on the flat sections? Also what speed do guys do on a flat ride. I just started cycling 3 months ago. Wonder what my target should be. ?

  22. #AskGCN this is a question for Emma…..while riding the PRL London 100 I noticed Emma walking her bike along the route with what looked like a huge bag of oranges….why on earth did you need so many oranges? And why wasn’t you riding your bike? Are hills too tough now you’re a gun presenter 😉 (it was me her took a double look and a smile 😊)

  23. absolutely love le tour, regardless of tech. the narratives, the scenery, everything. best three weeks of the year.

  24. Way better. It's been getting progressively better for years. The only dark time that i can recall is for about two or so years after the Armstrong scandal broke.

  25. seriously…. You can't ignore the US Postal and Trek Discovery years. Get over it, most of the commentary in this seemed like it went out of its way not to draw the similarities between Sky years and the Armstrong years. This is just silly. Your content is great, first class really– just doesn't help the discussions to intentionally omit these things.

  26. Race radios and the multitude of cameras on motorbikes and helicopters and all the technology being used to track the riders definitely makes a difference from the earlier days of the tour. It allows teams to know exactly where every rider is and to judge when to pull back the breakaways and time their attacks and such. No longer can Roche suddenly appear just a few seconds behind Delgado at the finish line. It the current race, everybody would know the entire time that Roche was gaining on him. It really changes the tactics of the race when everybody knows exactly where everyone else is at almost any time of the race. But, like a few years ago when the tour tried to bad radios during a stage and the teams responded by riding super-conservatively, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

  27. Poor little squirrel…me and my backyard squirrel buddies will have a remembrance over peanuts. Thanks Dan for caring and giving mercy.

  28. WOW so there really was some evidence that 8 spoke carbon spinergies were dangerous. RIP Squirrel.

    They were the coolest looking wheels of all time in my book.

  29. I guess that with all the available technology, every rider can have the exact time of the stage instead of freezing the times of the group, that can make it more competitive…

  30. A couple of years ago riding between Usk and Newport a squirrel jumped into my front wheel and spun around a couple of times and jumped out again back into the roadside wood. He must have felt pretty sore after that, but otherwise ok after his spin on a bike. LOL.

  31. I do miss the time when you had no radios and you could "lose" someone on attack that maybe you thought was already caught… For safety it is great but take away some of the challenge..

  32. I stopped watch it. Whats the point? I cant stand all the doping, every top rider is doped and lie about it. Had enough.

  33. Might find the squirrel thing mildly amusing if it were reenacted with Si in the part of the squirrel – after all, what is there about a living creature dying in agony that is not good for a laugh?

  34. It is my understanding that metal is less than 100% recyclable due to oxidation (slag), whereas thermoplastics like Polyethylene, out of which most disposable bottles are made, is theoretically 100% recyclable. Said this, recycling seems to be cloaked by a beautiful chain of selling stuff to different companies, making it impossible to figure out whether your given council actually recycles anything at all (i.e. Most councils seem to hire local private entities to do initial sorting, which then gets sold to multinationals who have ambiguous websites on the basis that they have 'too many involvements' to be transparent)

  35. With regards to being better off cycling in poluted areas, I'm gonna call shennanigens!. Being asthmatic my lungs are fairly sensative. When i cycle home at 1am rather than 1pm I have no breathing issues. But at mid day it's the opposite story. I wonder if it's more a question of being able to endure polution?. I promise your not better off with it!

  36. Regarding the leather bar tape cover. I think it would be useful for transporting your bike on the top of a car. When heading out into the countryside, the bug splats can be pretty thick and they are hard to clean up – especially after setting up in the wind. I use plastic food wrap (bodge? hack?) which holds up, surprisingly, for 300 miles or so. Also, if you have carbon bars, the leather might help cushion the bars against stones thrown up by other vehicles. I suspect they might be good protection for carbon bars so they don't get bashed around by other bikes when porting them on public transportation – check out these bike piles on the ferry boats on San Francisco bay:

  37. II don't know if it's just the massive media coverage, but it feels like there are a lot more idiot spectators, spitting, shoving, throwing stuff, and the booing? well perhaps people have booed always, still it takes up more of the media picture then pre 2000, back then it felt like it was something that would happen, or be spoken about every few races.

  38. What about that chap who won it 7 times? Like it or not, he dominated the tour longer than anyone else and shouldn’t be erased from history.

  39. It would be great to see your response to this years race. I found it one of the most exciting in many years. Every day a different opportunity for each team. And the weather, hail and a landslide wow.

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