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New SIGMA ROX 12.0 Sport | GCN Tech’s First Look

New SIGMA ROX 12.0 Sport | GCN Tech’s First Look


(energetic, techno music) (energetic, rhythmic music) (energetic, rhythmic music) (energetic, rhythmic music) (energetic, rhythmic music) – This is the Sigma ROX 12 which is a brand new bike-specific GPS head unit. Sigma asked us to take a look at it and we thought well, yeah, seeing as that we were impressed when we first saw the Eurobike. We’ve heard great things since then absolutely and we’ll tell
you all about it as well. So, this is a first look. Technically I have already unboxed it because I wanted to make sure the battery is fully charged so we
can go out on the bike in just one second. But, for the sake of this one, (light music) tada! There you go. So there is your head unit. Look at that. But, we’ll leave that to one side for just one second because there’s some other cool stuff in here as well. This is
the sport-specific set. So, it actually comes with some additional sensors as well. Like a speed and cadence sensor and a heart rate strap as well. There is another more paired down option without those additional sensors. But, there is some cool stuff in there. If you’ll forgive my whilst I find it. Aha! Like this. Which
is the out front mount which also comes with an
adapter to allow you to fit a GoPro to it as well. Which I think is a really nice touch. Back to what you’ve come to see though, the main event. This is the head unit. As you can see it’s got a
nice, big three inch screen on there. Touchscreen.
Although it does have buttons as well should you prefer. So, you’ve got two on the sides to scroll through your
apps or your screens and then you also got a
start lap button there, stop button, and then a home button there. Now here is next to an iPhone for a size comparison. But, actually the
comparison to the phone is quite a good one anyway because this runs on an Android platform. So, in use it feels very familiar. You scroll from side to side through various different icons which are kind of like apps. You also swipe down for a shortcut menu. You swipe up for navigation. And SIGMA say they did design it on the same principles as a phone. One crucial difference though, this does not have a sim card. And so for connectivity, you connect it up to WiFi and then from there you can sync it
with the relevant platforms, like SIGMA’s own data center, where you can then analyze
your rides afterwards. Or, as you can see on here,
apps like Komoot or Strava, meaning that when you
get back from your ride and it connects automatically to WiFi, your routes and your rides
will upload automatically should you wish. Or, perhaps more importantly,
you can then download routes before you go out as well. All the functions that you would expect from a top-level GPS unit are here, the connectivity is M+, also Bluetooth, to allow you to pair it
to a variety of sensors. In this case, I’m just going to pair it to a Quarq power meter because the training functions, the power analysis is
really advanced as well. Including, if I just scroll through you can see I’ve got pedal smoothness and torque effectiveness as well and it also work with Rota for their ochre analysis as well. Now, you can set up up
to 6 data screens on here in addition to your navigation screen and your workout screen
and your lap screen. And each one of those can be set up with a variety of different data fields. Meaning that I think I would run out of mental bandwidth before I run out of options to display
data on the head unit. Now before I attach the head unit, I will also tell you that you can buy additional different
colored covers for it. Either to match your bike or, in this case, to
match your personality. Because I think wild orange just kind of sums me up really. I’m
just that kind of a guy. Now given that this device has everything you’d expect from a
top-level GPS head unit, it’s fair to ask the question then what else has it got that you might not expect to find. Well, for me, one of the things is this little icon here which is workout. And that gives you the ability to actually create your
own interval sessions on the device itself. You could create them somewhere else and then upload them on there but, this actually allows you to build them here. You can see I’ve created two already, two of my favorites, brutal and savage. You can actually follow
them indoors, of course, or outdoors as well. Given our location here in the quite incredible Dolomites in the Alps Piave Valley, I’m less concerned
about training right now I’m more just desperate
to get out on my bike. So that will lead us very neatly on to perhaps the strength of this device which is mapping and navigation abilities. The ROX 12 uses open street maps meaning that you can have anywhere in the entire world on this device completely for free. It comes preloaded with the maps from the country that you live in and those closest to you. But, should you want another continent, you could simply go
online and download them. But as you can see they’re
pretty darn detailed given that these lines here are just hiking trails. They also come loaded
with an address function and indeed points of interest. So if we go back to navigation screen you can actually see
that you can use those as points to navigate to along with a total of nine ways of using this device for navigation. But the one that has
absolutely blown me away and I think is marginally bonkers is this, draw my route. So this gives you the option of literally drawing an outline on the screen and then the device will plot a route based around your squiggle. Now you can change how it
selects the best routes for you to ride using this
little customizer here. So you can see I’ve got it
set to favor major roads over unpaved roads and cycle roads. It’s actually set up for road riding but you can please swap that around to favor mountain biking if you so wish. But, rather than have to fiddle with this every time you decide to go on a different type of ride, perhaps instead of a road ride you go on a gravel ride or on
a mountain bike ride then it’s also got four what
are called sports profiles. So you can have each one set up for a different style of riding. Road, mountain bike, gravel or whatever and it will remember your routing options for each one. But, not only that, it
will also remember your display options as well. Say, for example, you
might have a power meter on your road bike, but
you might not have one on your mountian bike meaning
that you wouldn’t need the screen with all the
power data on there. And so when you change your sport profile you therefore, wouldn’t
have that on your device at that point. Happily, the route that
it has selected for me based on my preferences is the iconic Sella Ronda which is excellent news. Whilst I’m doing it, I can turn on live Strava segments so I can keep track of my progress in real time compared to my personal best or
the king of the mountain on those climbs. And then something that
really is incredibly simple when you put it into the context of all the other tech
we’ve been talking about, but I think is great and would work for me are eating and drinking reminders. So, if you’re anything like I am, and you can very easily forget these most basic but crucial of functions when on the bike, then this
is going to be a great idea. In fact, back in the day when I had an old school bike computer, I used to look at the time and make sure that every 15 minutes
I had a bite of food. But, its a hit and miss technique. But, now though, a reminder can pop up on the head unit and you can set those reminders to come on based
on either distance traveled, time elapsed, and even
estimated calorie consumption. Genius. All right, this Sella
Ronda is probably not going to take me all that long. I have got 16 hours
before I need to recharge this head unit. Although, actually if I
set it in low power mode, I’ve got 40 hours apparently. Which would definitely make
the eating and drinking reminders that bit more important. (bass thumping music) (bass thumping music) (bass thumping music) right, well if you’d
excuse me, I’m just going to enjoy the rest of this bike ride. Before you go, make
sure you give the video a big thumbs up if you like what you see. If you got any questions as well stick them in the comments section and we’ll do our best to answer them. Now, if you want a little
bit more landscape porn, I’m right here now today then why not check out Chris and Emma doing the Maratona. They’re having a little bit of a GCN race. That one’s on screen now.

97 comments on “New SIGMA ROX 12.0 Sport | GCN Tech’s First Look

  1. I really wait for the day when displays will be mature enough to use smartphones in full sun. It will put an end to the misery of those bike "computers" with limited capabilities — the same way as smartphones eradicated dumb-cameras. Maybe this is my background, but buying a piece of hardware when your freedom is limited to downloading tracks and uploading maps… not for me.

  2. I liked the look of it until Si pulled out the cadence and wheel sensor. I don't want something that big and ugly on my bike. I'll stop with a Garmin witch I can easily swap the head unit from bike to bike and leave the cadence and speed sensors on each bike and wheels as they are cheep enough to buy for each bike and wheels.
    Out of interest how much is it?

  3. Bad engineered. To expensive for what you actually get. Have a look at the new Garmin Explore Edge. Still not a perfect unit, but with a realistic price tag. Maybe they have had an update for the Rox now, but before I send mine back I figured for example out when you try to put in a password with "=" that it is not to be found inside the Rox….yes, great for a price of 459€!

  4. I like this GPS training machine. But can you also connect en send your data with a USB to our PC? Or only WIFI ?

  5. For me the Element is amazing and so simple and I know it won't go wrong, which is my worry when head units start operating on Android systems.

  6. We all want to make our bikes lighter and aerodynamic, you put on such a big computer. I do not get it anymore.

  7. How much excess packaging was the box it came in! 40 hours on low power – it would take me longer than that to fathom out how to use it. Do you really want to look like Chris Froome and ride with your eyes clamped to your computer all day and miss all that great scenery?

  8. I really like the route drawing feature, but I'm not keen on the software being Android-based. My experience with Android-based devices that are NOT phones, is that the software tends to get left behind as Android is updated.

  9. Hello Simon. Do you think it is worth the money?this is coming from some one that is sigma fan,owning the 2 prevoius ROX models(10 and 11).

    Cheers

  10. Might aswell buy a phone then and use a quadlock then… probably cheaper. Personally i dont want those functions on my gps unit, i want speed,power, distance and my garmin 520 is perfect size for this. This seems like what happened with iPods all over agaim except your music system and phone merging its going to be gps system and phone…

  11. Hmmm, timely. The on/off switch of my Garmin Edge 1000 just popped off (the cover, but that has a negative effect on how waterproof the unit is), and I'm not really looking forward for another Garmin head unit. I do have Vector 2 pedals though. Can you show a bit more on how power meters are handled in the full review? Does it display/record center-offsets and power phase?

  12. From what I have seen here it has just about anything I love about my current Polar V650 unit (color display, different sport profiles, highly custimizable screens etc) but with the added route planning the V650 is missing. I am certainly keen on trying it out buuut seeing as my current unit is still in fine condition and as tough as a tank considering it survived a couple crashes and plenty drops I do not see the need to get a new head unit sadly enough.

  13. It has some nice features for sure, specially the routing options are far better than that ones on Wahoo (without the smartphone together), but the form factory of old mp3 player is very ugly, also it's a huge bottom bezel with name and model, and finally the screen doesn't look to have a proper contrast ratio.
    Really hoping for some new releases from Wahoo to change my Bolt.

  14. Hello gcn! Great stuff but not sold yet… Does the head unit recalculate a new route when you are off the route? And costs? Just looking to trade in my now 4 year old Phone with quadlock that i now use to navigate (also using a powerbank) but somehow all the big brands are stil selling us gameboys… Ps did you guys review te karoo hammerhead yet?

  15. Stop the ad crap guys… it’s hard to take this seriously. Unbiased reviews are one thing but paid ads make me want to unsubscribe

  16. As other commentators have stated, pretty expensive, and pretty large. As a SIGMA ROX 11.0 user there are several upgrades in this system. Color display, larger viewing area, and more mapping functions. The ROX 11.0, only gives bread crumb navigation, but, downloading routes is very easy and has always been spot on. I have used the Garmin Edge device and I like the SIGMA unit better. Cadence, heart rate, power, are all supported by the ROX 11.0 unit, and it seamlessly integrates with other ANT+ units. The head unit itself is about 1/4 the size of this ROX 12.0 unit, but it is easily readable and also supports 6 pages of data. I paid $250 for the package with the cadence/speed monitor and heart rate strap. Like I said navigation with a preloaded, Open Street Map, route has been easy and if one veers off the route the navigation function picks back up again when you get back on route. This was the most annoying thing about the Garmin Edge unit as it would recalculate the route the minute one veered off, and it would NEVER pick up when you did get back on route! I think that this might not be a problem for Garmin's 800/1000 series units but it really is annoying with the Garmin Edge unit. The ability of the ROX 11.0 unit to give the user great data, speed, power, %grade, cadence, heart rate, etc. makes using it really great for the price. It also has the workout function Si mentions in this review. So, maybe GCN should check out this unit as well given it is almost half the price! Thanks for the review, but after seeing it, I think I prefer the ROX 11.0 to this unit.

  17. Si, why do you love such low cadences? Saw your KOM attempt, great effort, but too much grinding champ, spin to win!

  18. The bundle set is £430 you must kidding. It’s just a screen with Bluetooth and Maps. Basic android phone costs £100. Disappointing

    https://www.lordgunbicycles.co.uk/sigma-rox-120-set-gps-bike-computer

  19. Its a very nice head unit but I'm staying with my Wahoo Bolt. Small, simple, can read the display in any lighting and I just like the way it works. Isn't that Emma's bike?

  20. Looks good! My Garmin 820 lasts 100km before battery is low (even when using low battery setting). The routing speed and function on the Garmin is USELESS. i will never buy anything Garmin again. Ever. Hopefully Sigma can save my sanity.

  21. Another extremely cheaply made unit that is manufactured with old phone parts from china with price of iphone. Except that it cannot do anything Iphone can. Makes sense. These type of products should be around 200 mark tops. not 450!

  22. Never seen anyone reviewing a touch screen GPS unit with winter gloves in the rain…. I assume they won't work so will likely favour the old-school buttons of the Wahoo elmnt for my next upgrade. Can anyone tell me otherwise?!

  23. Seems like they did the same method for maps as Polar did: which worked pretty well: if they work on the price point of polar or below then they have a chance of making an impact. What the risks of such a design are:
    1 – color screens are difficult in sunlight
    2 – touchscreens are difficult in wet conditions

    The best new feature is the draw your route feature, but this feature could easily be introduced on a phone too if you can pair it. Wonder how granular you can adjust your route…

  24. I use an iPhone 4S running Runtastic on my bike. It cost me 35€ and I carry with me GPS, Google Maps, a camera, a phone, and a comunicating device, all in one. Simple to use and synced with all mi iOS devices. And it lasts easily any full ride. I need no more features or power, and for the price of a cheap bike component, it’s unbeatable!

  25. Clearly not the prettiest device nor UI, wouldn't really like to put that on my aerobike 🙁
    The draw my route is just amazing and mind boggling fast if Si's video is giving real time execution. Can it really be trusted on the long run though… ?
    Last but not least 450$… hmmmm, ain't cheap.
    Good device it seams but not crazy revolutionary.
    Thanks @GCN Tech for the video 🙂

  26. 5 years ago at sigma hq:
    a: "woah have you heard about that thing.. wait… android?"
    b: "yeah cool thing, my phone runs it, i can download any app, there are apps for everything, look… dices. DICES!!"
    a: "yeah yeah cool, cool, but, what about… wait… lets make a bike computer… based on android"
    b: "yeah coool, then i can role the dice while riding"
    a: "yeah and think about it, we can make some cases, like..nokia. 5110… you know."
    b: "yeah great, so i can role yellow dice"
    a: "yes that would be so massive, we dont have to care about the design, or the display size, or the resolution, or …."

    2018: sigma reveals a bike computer at the size and the thickness, the display and the resolution. of a nokia 5110 cellphone of 1995.

    –> to big, to thick, the bezel is ugly, glossy glass? yes… no. you even can see the leds of the lighting.

  27. I'm liking the Crockett road bike, that's what I did with mine! A change of the wheelset turns it into a gravel bike!

  28. It looks good but that big, edge-to-edge touchscreen looks like it would quickly end up the way most phones go – smashed to bits

  29. I realise this is sponsored content so unlikely to be an in-depth review, but GCN could show some integrity in a later video by putting the best from Garman/Wahoo/Sigma head to head in different conditions. My money is on the Wahoo Bolt.

  30. It didn’t say ‘paid promotion’, but it sounded like one. Where was the critical analysis? How does it compare to Garmin or wahoo? Does the Bluetooth connection pair to your phone to have live tracking, like the Garmin? The maps are not provided by Sigma, they’re using Open Street Map. This isn’t a problem, but should have been stated, rather than, like the sigma web site, saying free world wide maps

  31. Actual USABLE screen compared to overall size is a bit underwhelming.
    Features and WiFi connectability seem interesting.

  32. ik ga in 2019 de marmotte rijden zou deze wel kunnen gebruiken als deze 16uur meegaat als alles volledig opstaat . doe zo verder, GCN

  33. Great video, love the sense off humor… seems to be full of functions, crucial questions which i can't seem to find the answer on, can't it connect via phone to upload the activity to strava? And can you load it with GPX to use turn-by-turn navi? Cheers!

  34. That "draw on the screen" to chart a route function is extremely tempting. And so are the free maps. 16-hour battery life is a bit mediocre, but not the worst by today's standards, either. The screen ought to be edge-to-edge horizontally and top edge to home button vertically (without compromising the battery life). Th resolution is total rubbish (again, to preserve battery? Or to save money?). The connectivity is a bit too limited.

  35. ROX 10 were able to track the totals of 3 bikes individually.
    ROX 11 introduced sport profiles, and able to store only one total, which is the sum of all sport profiles.
    Is ROX 12 able to track more bikes, or it also have only full total, and can't track more bikes individually?

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