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Quinten Hermans | The GCN Cyclocross Podcast Ep.5

Quinten Hermans | The GCN Cyclocross Podcast Ep.5


(upbeat music) – Hey everybody it’s Jeremy Powers, and welcome back to the fifth episode of the “GCN Cyclocross Podcast.” This week we have a jam
packed show for you all. We talk about the World Cup round that went down in the Czech Republic as well as the DVV Trofee
that happened in Belgium. I catch up with my friend Marty MacDonald and we chat about the young riders who tore it up over the weekend. Shirin van Anrooij and Puck
Pieterse are both 17 years old and finished ninth and
tenth in the World Cup this weekend in the
Elite Women’s race, yeah. Another young rider that
tore it up was Thomas Maine. The 20-year-old British
rider won his first World Cup ever of his career in
the Under-23 Men’s race. We got a chance to catch up with him and have a chat about
how it all went down. Keeping in that vein of young riders and exciting times ahead, I was able to catch up with
the national team coach from the United States, Jesse Anthony, about bringing over a
group of development riders that he has in Belgium with him right now, and all that’s going down with that. Then it’s into our
featured guest this week, which is Quinten Hermans. Now Quinten Hermans is like
properly Belgium cyclocross. He’s one of the stars of the
show week in and week out, and we talk about his mindset, how he prepares for the cross season, training, periodization,
how he got into the sport, Belgium cyclocross fans. It’s was a really
interesting conversation. I feel like I learned a lot from Quinten. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Get involved with us. Hit us up on social media @gcntweet, @globalcyclingnetwork on Instagram. Really appreciate it if you guys would share this with your
friends on social media. It would mean the world to me. So let’s kick this off and hop on the line with my friend and
co-worker Marty MacDonald. Hey, Marty, how are you today? – I’m good, thank you. Recovering from a busy weekend. – Yeah man it was the Tabor World Cup. It was going down there. A race that I have great memories from. My first World Championships
happened there in 2001 and then I was able to do a
really good ride there in 2012. One of my best World Cup finishes ever. I got seventh place, so I have some really great
memories of the track in Tabor. – Yeah, it always gives
us some great racing and I really enjoyed
calling those ones there. Elite Women, Dutch
dominance you’ve got to say. Annemarie Worst, Ceylin
del Carmen Alvarado, battling it out at the front. Yara Kastelijn finding their
way back into that one, Lucinda Brand after the
victory kneel taking fourth, and two young riders, 17, Puck Pieterse, the new
European Junior champion, and Shirin van Anrooij, 17
years old, in ninth and 10th. – Man, nine and 10th in a World Cup. We were talking before the show, that’s a record, right? That’s a new statistic. No one that young has ever finished that high in a World Cup in the past. – I think it’s the youngest
top 10 that we’ve ever had in the Elite Women’s World Cup,
so, yeah, impressive stuff. – Absolutely phenomenal. It’s been like this. I mean, we’re seeing kind
of, we see Sanne Cant, right? She’s 29 years old. Okay, she’s great, she’s
winning, she’s the world champ, she’s been doing this for a long time, but now we’re starting
to see Kastelijn, Worst, all these younger riders,
Alvarado coming up, but now we’re starting to
see van Anrooij and Pieterse, and the same thing, Marty, happened on the men’s
side back in the day. Maybe three, four years ago, it was van der Poel, and Wout van Aert, and this new generation
of younger men coming in, kind of taking over, but now we’re starting to
see that in the women’s side, but it’s ever younger. 17 years old in the top
10 of the World Cup. What is going on the world? How is it possible? – It’s amazing, it’s
absolutely amazing, and, again, it shows because we
don’t have Under-23 races in women’s pro cycling as well, so you kind of have it
on the road as well. You go from Junior to Elite, so you have no choice but to just get in there and get stuck in. – I know, it’s just phenomenal, and I think that the only thing we can really equate this
to is that the training, the understanding of the, yeah, of the physiology of these
younger women, the coaches, and the experience that’s
now starting to trickle down, power meters, course
understandings, travel, all of these things are starting to be more and more
refined and these riders are starting to have
success younger and younger. There’s more programs in
place, there’s more support. All of this stuff is just
an easier ladder for them to be able to climb, but I have to say, that looking at that stat on
paper is pretty mind-blowing. – Yeah, it’s amazing, and, again, you’re seeing a lot of
these young women coming in and they’re pushing their
technical ability as well. They are really technically gifted. – Yeah, man. Another short list of
winners in the men’s side, our friend Thomas Maine and Cam Mason having some great rides from the UK side. Able to take top 10s there. – Yeah, superb result for Thomas Maine, taking the Under-23 World Cup,
his first big success there, riding in the colors of Great Britain. Cameron Mason, he really
shows that he’s really benefiting from that TRINITY Racing team and being out there constantly, with Tom Pidcock taking seventh
in only his third World Cup. – Man, that is awesome. I’m really happy for Thomas Maine there, to take a World Cup win as Under 23’s, I’m excited for the future for them. On the Elite side, very good racing. Van der Poel having a really bad start after such a hard week with the passing of his grandfather, Raymond Poulidor, Having a really tough start. Having to start in third row, Marty. – Yeah, that comes down to, again, to UCI points and the ranking
points in the World Cup. Shows you don’t get specialist treatment. Had to find his way, fight his way, through this kind of melee
that you get after the start, battled back, and he came up against a real stomping Lars van der Haar. Team tactic to race a
bit in Grand Tour now, which was great to see. He found his way though
and when he made his move, you know, he prevented Eli Iserbyt from making it four from four. – Yeah, you can see at the end, Marty, he was giving it everything he could. He was able to gap Iserbyt off but didn’t have a lot
of daylight between him and then was able to think about
his grandfather at the end, not putting his hands
up at the finish line. – No, I think, you see
that it’s just set off towards it was out of respect, and there were some
really emotional tweets from him afterwards as well, so respected him for doing what does best. – Absolutely, yeah, a big
day, a big day for him, and it was even through such a hard time. I mean, truly, mentally, Marty, could you imagine losing
someone so close in your family and then having to show
up to work on Saturday with all of the things that come along with being world champ,
all of the pressure, all of the heartache,
and just the hard times. I give that man a lot of credit for being able to show
up and still perform because I don’t think anyone
would have given him anything, no one would have said anything, if he decided that he didn’t
want to go to the race or if he didn’t have a good
performance on the day. I don’t think anyone
would have said anything because he’s been under
extreme amount of stress with the passing of his grandfather. Regardless of his age or his condition, it doesn’t make it any easier. – No, not so, and you’ve got to say that they’re a cycling family and being around your cycling family gives you support in tough times, and I’m sure he would
have benefited from that. You always saw his grandfather with him on the podium for him and David, so I’m sure he took a lot of comfort for being around his big,
extended cycling family. – Yeah, well, we have an
interview from him from Hamme that we’re going to get into
after this in a couple minutes, but first off, Marty,
let’s talk about Hamme, a race in Belgium just south of Antwerp, a completely different track
than Tabor in all the ways. – Yeah, round two, the DVV Trofee, the first of that being Koppenberg, and it gave us a great race right from the off of the women’s race. It was eye-wateringly quick. It was a really good one. Great to see Sanne Cant getting
back into some good form. Annemarie Worst taking the
victory for the second time. Up there as well, Ceylin
del Carmen Alvarado, but, again, another emerging rider. You’ve got to really
salute Aniek Van Alphen. We’ve seen her coming through over the last couple of seasons because the cameras would go back to her. She’s one of those riders, 20 years old, bunny hopping the barriers,
and she’s really pushing it. She got on to the group. She was with Ellen Van Loy just as Annemarie Worst
put the hammer down, but if she starts to be up there, then that bunny hopping is really going to pay dividends to her. – Yeah, it’s a status quo. It is the norm now; that
is what you have to do. It’s what the women’s racing
is going to end up being. Mark my words, all of
the women will have to, if they want to win, they’ll be hopping the barriers
in the next five years. That’s just how the sport’s going. As we talk about it, this
emerging theme, right, we’re starting to see 17 year olds in the top 10 of the World Cups. We’re talking about Van Alphen here riding to fifth place in Hamme, had a big international race with all the best riders
there, 20 years old, and then you’ve got the Dutch
kind of, the four riders, which is Kastelijn,
Alvarado, Annemarie Worst, and then all of the other ones. I mean, there’s so many
Dutch women right now. There was an interview
here with Sanne Cant, that we’re going to
get into in one second, where she’s actually asked about the Dutch domination and
about the young riders. So let’s actually, let’s
hop into that right now. – Quite good. They took a flying start like they said, but, yeah, hopefully my level is growing and I hope I can be at the
top, yeah, in a few weeks. – Is the cyclocross women level
at very high at this moment? – Yeah, I think maybe one of the highest. If you saw yesterday, Lucinda, yeah, normally on that
course she will be the best and now she was also battling for podium, so I think the level is
quite high at this moment. – The youngsters are doing
really good at the moment, but at the end of the season, Sanne Cant always becomes world champion. – I hope so. (chuckling) – That’s something what
we always thinking on. – (laughing) I hope it’s true. I’m going to try it, but three times in a row,
it was quite spectacular, so four times it will be,
yeah, next level I think. – Kind of wild, kind of wild to hear about (chuckles) just all that stuff, and I want to say thank you
to our man, Yaar Hansen, our friends at Eurosport, able to grab us those
interviews in English. What do you make of all that, Marty? – I love the little chuckle
of Sanne Cant there as well. And he says, “Oh, you know,
we know that Sanne Cant “will come back and win the world title,” and she’s kind of like,
in the back of her mind, knowing Sanne, you’re like, “Yup,
I’m going to do it.” (laughs) – (laughs) It’s totally wild. So keeping on this theme
with the younger riders, one of the things that’s interesting that’s happening that
I know about right now is that USA Cycling is
taking a bunch of funds, sending riders over to
Europe to get their feet wet, all Under 23 and younger
riders from the United States. I got a chance, Marty, to catch up with the team
coach, Jesse Anthony, he heads up all things
cyclocross for USA Cycling, just to chat with him and
see what their plan is, how the weekend went, and
what they got coming up. So we’re hopping to that right now. Jesse Anthony, how are you? – Doing awesome, thanks, Jeremy. How are you? – I’m doing great, man, I’m doing great. We’re talking about all the
young riders that are coming up. We’re seeing a ton of young
riders from the Netherlands, and, really, just a lot of
domination from young riders. We know that you have a crew over in Europe with you right now, part of the USA Cycling MudFund. You brought riders over
there from the U.S. to be able to get kind of immersed in this European scene of racing. Tell me about what you got going on and what racing you’ve been up to. – Yeah, so the MudFund supported us this year on our first trip to Europe, first of three trips that we’re taking a bunch of development riders on. So, yeah, this is the first time we did a national race,
on Saturday in Belgium, and then DVV race on
Sunday this past weekend, and then coming up with
have another DVV race in Wachtebeke and the Koksijde World Cup. – Awesome, so you’ve definitely
got a full plate over there. As part of USA Cycling’s
goal, I’m just curious about with all the
young riders coming out, we got the World Championships coming here in Arkansas in a couple of years. There’s obviously a lot of focus on the younger riders, the new generation. We have riders that are doing great at the Elite level as well, but your role now is to
really get these riders that have very little exposure
to this type of racing, bring them over there, get their feet wet, and really, yeah, just give me
a sense of what you guys are, what the first impressions have been. – Yeah, exactly, it’s been great. This is a full group of new riders for the exception of Gage Hecht. He’s already had some success over here. So we’re supporting him in the continuation of his development, but all the other 10 riders over here have never been to Europe to race before. So pretty cool to get them in the mix here and show them the real league
of this sport, the top level, and, yeah, the point is
exactly what you said, to kind of develop our young riders. We have a ton of riders in the pipeline and we’re trying to grow
that number as well, so this is kind of some opportunities that we’re presenting
for riders to step into and to kind of explore the
sport a little further. – I love it. How are the riders finding it? (laughing) I’m just curious,
like, has there been success? I know it’s hard. I mean, having both
having raced in Europe, we know it’s hard, but I’m just curious. Have you guys had some small successes? Has it been at least some fun for them? – Yeah, the first weekend was awesome. I think part of it was
that we had decent weather and the sun shone both day,
which was a mind-blower, but Shannon Mallory actually
finished on the podium in her first race here in the
Boortmeerbeek National Race. So that was the women’s overall. It’s just Elite, Junior and
U23 women racing together, and as a U23 woman, she finished second. So that was really cool for us
to get her out on the podium, and then the Junior Women did great, and the Junior Men also
were all in the top, I think, 15 in their race too. So that was a great opener and
it was a pretty low-key race. So they just had a lot of fun listening to the announcer with the weird
accent and all that stuff. – (chuckling) Oh, that’s awesome. So you guys, well, you guys
will conclude this block. You’ll do this racing this weekend. You’ll finish up at Koksijde World Cup. Resuming Monday, you’ll all
fly back to the United States. You’ll be at the National Championships. And then you’ll go back over with a different crew but the same idea. You’re going to go back over
for the Christmas period, which is the really
intense period in Belgium and in that Benelux area for
Christmas through New Years. – Yeah, so we’ll be taking, like you said, a different crew of riders. A lot of them have been to Europe before. It’ll be some of their first time, but these are kind of the riders that have stood out throughout the season that we’re going to
take over in Christmas, and that is, as you know, a
very intense block of racing, but I think it’s the
perfect time to bring them up to speed at what’s going on here. I think we have some
really talented riders and I foresee us having
some success there, so it’ll definitely be an experience trip, but we’re also going
there for results too. – Yeah, that’s amazing, that’s cool. It’s just such a different thing. I mean, the idea of this
podcast is all about English, you know, cyclocross
globally but in English. We have so many, so hard to be able to follow this sport and
not speak fluent Dutch, so this is the English side of it. It is not easy for people
from the United States to be able to get over
there and do this racing, so, yeah, this is a new approach, getting riders over
there super, super young, being able to expose them to this, and then kind of getting them going. It’s really cool and, yeah, I give you a big pat on the
back for pushing this forward. – Yeah, thanks, and again, this is what the MudFund is all about, is creating opportunities
for American riders. So it’s all the way from
the grassroots racing all the way up to the
World Championship level, and we’re doing it. The MudFund has been awesome
and a huge support this year, so we’re continuing down that road, and, yeah, doing great things so far. – Cool, man, well, I hope we’ll be be able to catching up again
after the Christmas trip into the World Championships. Thank you so much for your time. – Yeah, thanks, Jeremy, talk soon. – Great to hear from him. We, as Europeans, we can be a little bit
Euro-centric sometimes. We want to see more riders up there. We want to see more flags in the men’s and the women’s cycling. They got to follow in those world tracks of Katie Compton and
Katie Keough in the women, but they got to follow you,
you and and Jonathan Page. We won those stars and
stripes in the Elite Men. – Yeah, so I’d have to
say that this portion of the podcast has been
dedicated to the young, the young up-and-coming
riders that are coming up, and all of this new
blood that’s in the sport is fantastic to see because
that’s where it starts, Marty. All of these young riders
is, like this is the future. Yeah, focusing on the
riders that are there, we need them to be able
to build the sport up, to be able to show that
you can have success, that you can make a living from it, that you can have fun, that you
can make a career from this, but, truthfully, the future
is in the young riders. So on the men’s side,
again, was van der Poel. it was the “Mathieu van der Poel Show,” riding with the dominance that we expect and that we’ve seen in the past from him. He rode away with the
wind on Sunday at Hamme. – Yeah, definitely. I mean, he got that really good start and he really put the hammer down. Toon Aerts was the only rider to able to go with him initially, but, again, big shout
out to Laurens Sweeck. When the gap went, you could see him just looking past Toon Aerts. I think maybe if he’d
been with van der Poel when he went and not have to get past us, he might have stayed with him, but he held him four seconds, two seconds, and that was as close as he got, and then van der Poel just, yeah, dropped a big
hammer, struck it home, took his fourth consecutive
victory in Hamme. – Yeah, Sweeck having
a really good season, but van der Poel able to string together that last technical
section, the start/finish, and then that first technical section, he really was able to put together like five, six, seven minute
almost of entirely one lap. After 20 minutes, we saw
him sit up a little bit, then we went again at
40 minutes and then he, we were talking about
it on the live coverage, he buckled his pedals and, or excuse me, he buckled up his shoes, made
them a little bit tighter, and then that was the end of van der Poel. The field never really saw him again. – No, not at all, and I
think I love that course because you can see just that fluidity, that style, that skill. It’s just something to behold. It’s such a privilege to commentate that beautiful berm
section through the woods. I absolutely love that. And you just see him. You just see him at his best. – Yeah, for sure. It’s just two totally different tracks on two different days of the week, and Saturday, completely
different type of course. A long drive from Tabor
all the way to Hamme, probably 10-plus hours
for some of the riders. They get there, a
completely different track with a different set of obligations, things that these riders
have to ace, so very cool. We actually got a chance
to get an interview with, again, our man Yaar
Hansen from Eurosport, to be able to hear about van der Poel, about the tough week that he had, and also about his sensation. – Yeah, it was kind of
hard, especially yesterday. Yeah, but I might be in a
whole new room with two wins. – Did you think about him during the race? – Today, but a little bit
yesterday, yeah, a lot, and that’s also why it made it so hard for me to focus on the race. – You showed quite some dominance today and the past weeks also. – Yeah, I don’t know if
dominance is the right word. I have to work hard for it. Last year, I think was in
a better shape this period, but, yeah, I had a very
busy summer as well with some mountain
biking and road cycling, so it’s kind of normal
that I have to take my time to get back in top shape. – So you can really hear that emotion and I think hats off
to him after that one, but it’s going to be
interesting, isn’t it, to see actually what
he’s like when he feels that he’s on top form. – Dude, (chuckles) you’re telling me. I think everyone’s waiting for that. With a rider like van der Poel, I think he’s got his
season timed really well. I think he’s got things in control. I’m excited to see him
continue to gain form and continue to put the
cherry on top of the season, and I think he’s in good
shape to look forward to the World Championships
again in February and really cap this one off. So, Marty, what do we have
coming up this weekend? – So we’ve got the Koksijde World Cup. So we have that live on GCN Racing only to some very, very
limited territories, unfortunately, on that one. So keep subscribing, keep giving us the
thumbs up, keep watching, ’cause the more subscribers
and viewers we get, the more territories we’ll be able to bring you on these races. Koksijde, it’s up there with Koppenberg as one of my favorite races to call. Absolutely love this one, but, you know, I’m a commentator, you’re a rider. You’ve been there. What’s it like? – Dude, Koksijde is one
of the most iconic tracks. It is like, yeah, it is
the Belgian Super Bowl. When I raced the World
Championships there in 2012, I think they said that there were 90,000 spectators out there. They had a special train going to and from the race that they dedicated specifically for the World Championships. That’s bigger than the Super Bowl, Marty. I mean, that is like the
biggest sporting event that we have in the United States. It’s that many people in one place for an event for one day. It’s bigger than that. So it was a really cool thing
to be a part of it, 2012. It’s a race that I always
put up on a pedestal and I have a lot of respect for it. It combines all the,
yeah, all the physical, all the really hard physical
parts of cyclocross, along with the technique and the skill, and the determination and focus
that you also have to have. It’s, really, it’s nothing
like riding your bike up a big stage of the Tour de France. It is cyclocross through and through, so I love it for that
because it’s so pure. – And your ears must be ringing ’cause 90,000 drunk Dutch and Belgians must just be an amazing amount of noise. – Something like that,
yeah, something like that. You really can’t–
– They’re not all drunk. I will point that out. – (laughs) You just can’t
even move when you’re there. We were trying to, I remember we were filming
for my “Day in the Life” show and my videographer
had to hop up in a tree to be able to get any of
the coverage of the racing and to be able to get
the fans ’cause they’re, yeah, when there’s that
many people in one area, it’s not a big place, three
kilometers is the track, it’s not a big place. There’s just so many people out there. – Yeah, absolutely brilliant. I’m really looking forward to that one. – Yeah, cool, well, thank you for your time this week, Marty. We’ll catch up with you soon. – Thanks, pal, have a good one. – That was a great chat
with Marty and I have to say that I did not watch
the Tabor World Cup live and I didn’t see the young
riders featuring into the top 10, but when Marty told me about
it afterwards in our debrief, I was absolutely blown away. I mean, 17 years old, tearing it up in the Elite Women’s races
is something to be said. I mean, right now you
have Annemarie Worst, Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado, Yara Katelijn, all which I would consider
very young riders, but then you go down the
result sheet just a little bit, you start to see a 20 year old and you start to see 17
year olds inside the top 10. That is mind-blowing for me. I mean, we saw it with
Mathieu van der Poel, we saw it with Wout van Aert, we saw it this new generation that came into the men’s cross, but now we’re starting to see 17 year olds featuring in the top 10. It’s to say the least,
it’s exciting times. So very, very fun to be able to look at that and analyze that. Now it is on to Quinten Hermans. It’s really a pleasure to be able to welcome him to the show. I personally remember when
Quinten would come over, race across Vegas, which was always traditionally
the season kickoff, went down at the Interbike
Trade Show in Las Vegas. It was a very iconic race, the smell, the dew that was in the air. It properly kicked off the season. Quinten was one of the
riders that always came over, even when he was younger. I got a chance to race with him many, many times over the years. He is absolutely all
things Belgian cyclocross. He’s been on the podium of
the World Championships. He’s been European champion in
the Under-23 Men’s category. In the Under-23 Men’s category, he’s won the World Cup overall. He’s done it all. He’s been on the podium
of countless UCI races, he’s won several UCI races
over the last couple of years, and he’s continuing to
become a dominant force in being at the front of the
race week in and week out. It’s a pleasure and an honor to be able to welcome him to the show. Quinten, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us today. – Oh, no problem, it’s my honor. – Yeah, thank you, say it, man. So I want to tell anyone
that doesn’t about you a couple things that I picked out, that I looked at over the
years of your results. I’ve obviously known you for a long time. We’ve been competitors, we’ve chatted at the races, but I also dug in and did some homework. So I’m going to read off
a couple of your accolades that I’ve got that I
picked out from the web. You cool with that? – Yeah, perfect, perfect. – (chuckles) So in 2015-16
season in the Under 23s, you won the European Championships. You won the BPost Trophee,
which is now the DVV. You were second overall in the World Cup and the Superprestige, and then you got third place
at the Under 23 World Champs. Does that sound right? – Yeah, sounds good. Sounds really good. (chuckles) – (chuckles) And then in
2016-17, it actually gets better. You won the Belgian
Championship in the Under 23s, and then you also won the
European Championships again. So you won the Superprestige
overall and the DVV overall. It was quite possibly even a bigger year, that year, in 2016-17. – Yeah, it sounds like a lot, but it went by so
freakin’ fast. (chuckles) – And then in 2017-18 season,
it was your first year Elite. – Correct, correct, right. – Yeah, and so you finally
moved up to the big boys. You’ve been on a slew of podiums. You’ve won in Switzerland
in your first year and your second year as an
Elite you won at the Trek Cup, which was a great win for you
on your sponsor’s home soil, and then that brings us to this year where you’ve been
absolutely having a tear. You’ve been landing on the podium in practically every weekend, and you took your first win
on Belgian soil in Beringen. – Yeah, correct, and that
was a really, really nice one because Beringen is actually
like (exhales sharply), I don’t know, 10Ks from where I live, so it was also like one of the first races where actually a lot of
crowds were at the race. So, yeah, it was an awesome day, to win my first real
Belgian cyclocross race. – Yeah, I bet that was like super cool for your family and for everyone, and I think it’s fairly
close to your house, is it? – Yeah, yeah, I go for, or I did go for, mountain bike trainings there. I did go often, and it wasn’t, it isn’t like the
perfect cyclocross track, but it was a good race, and it’s always nice to win
against some good racers, and with Tom Pidcock being
there and Toon Aerts, it wasn’t an easy deal, but, yeah, I got the win and I’m
very happy with that. – (chuckles) I have to say, man, from all the riders that we’ve had, like we’ve had Vervecken on the
show pretty much every week. We’ve had a lot of Belgians come again. We’ve talked to Bart Wellens, we’ve been talking to van der Poel, we’ve been talking to a
lot of people on the show, but I think you are the most Belgian rider that I’ve been able to have so far, that I’ve been able to chat with. So I have some questions, and I think it’s a very broad question. It’s very, very broad, in fact. I just want to know what it’s like being a Belgian cyclocrosser? Take it anywhere you want, but I would love to know what it’s like to be a Belgian cyclocross
racer right now? – I don’t know, yeah, it’s obviously good because the sport is still going full gas in Belgium and
it’s really popular, so I think it’s also very, very easy to be a cyclocross rider in Belgium, or not easy, we have to
train hard, obviously, but we got a lot of support coming from, yeah, from people at the races. We got a lot of support from our teams. Yeah, we get supported really
well and it feels good. It’s definitely easier to be
a Belgian cyclocross racer than to be a U.S. racer or
anywhere else in the world. But it feels good, and I
think September and October, we thought cyclocross had
its best times in Belgium, but last couple of races,
more people are coming out and the TV numbers are looking great, and it’s, yeah, it’s awesome. – It is, it it awesome, man. It’s super cool to see
kind of the reemergence. Everybody was saying it was not doing well and that cross was kind
of in a downward spiral, but I think that every
time that there’s a lull, there’s a lot of people who, you know, we would say are pessimistic, right? Like, they’re pessimistic because that’s an easy
band to get on, right? But the truth is is that the
racing’s still very compelling. The women’s racing is super fun to watch. There’s new stories all the time, and, yeah, it’s been a fantastic season with a ton of mud as well. – There are new faces in
cyclocross now, you know? People still think about
Sven Nys, Niels Albert, Jeremy Powers, Zdenek Stybar, you know? – Yup.
– And then now with Wout and Michaud didn’t make the beginning of the season, it was like all new names coming in, but I think we made the cyclocross really attractive the last couple of weeks with Eli doing really great and there is always
one competitor you had, hard to deal with that day, and, yeah, I just hope
people give us a shot at giving our best and to
make cyclocross attractive. I don’t know if people want
to see riding Michaud away the first 10 minutes every
week, over and over again, and that wasn’t in September and October. So I think it was really
enjoyable to watch. – Yeah, I agree, I agree. So I want to hop back before
I go into the deep dive about everything that’s
going on this season, and I want to, ’cause
there was a lot of riders that have come up over the
years in Belgian cyclocross, and, famously, Wout van Aert
and Mathieu van der Poel have jumped up a category
before they turned, technically, Elite by age. You were not one of those riders. It seems like really methodically
planned and executed, a good plan of attack,
as well as Eli Iserbyt, to not jump out at the Elites and start racing a ton of Elite races before you guys technically
came out of the Under 23s. We probably have a ton of young riders that listen to this show and I notice as I looked back through
your results that you were, you know, you dabbled
with several Elite races, but the truth is that you
really stayed in the Under 23s. You ran through all of the rags. You did the Under-23 competitions and then you finally turned pro when you were actually of age to turn pro. So I’d love to know
about the periodization, like what you thought about that, and what when into
that, thinking that way. – Yeah, so actually the
team came up with a plan to make me pro one year earlier
than my age was, actually. So they wanted to do the same with Wout and Michaud with
me, but just one year. Like Michaud did three
years, three years earlier, but I always, like me and
Michaud are the same age and I always raced against Michaud. It was really hard to beat him, it didn’t work out quite well to do that, and always racing for second place was something I got used to
and it wasn’t very hard for me because at Juniors I got
a lot of second places, but I didn’t win any races or
I didn’t win a lot of races. I also think you need to be capable in your head of winning races and you needs to race to the finish line and not like I did with my second places. I just followed Michaud
as long as possible and I got away because he rode that fast, and I didn’t have to make the
gap, he made the gap for me, and I just kept the pace the whole race. I was the best in the
Juniors of doing that. And then at the end of 23s
when Michaud became pro, I figured it was very
hard for me to win races, to actually have the
acceleration to get an advantage because I always followed Michaud, so I had to learn that
to myself a little bit, and I still think I need
to learn more of that. That’s because sometimes I go out racing in Switzerland, or Germany,
or France last year, to still have the feeling
of trying to win a race and not riding for a podium
spot or for a close result, and that’s why I stayed so
long in the Under-23 category. I just, yeah, I actually
wanted to win races and that was very hard
with Michaud being there. – Yeah, I mean, we’ve seen, yeah, we’ve seen van der Poel. Obviously, he’s dominated
all of the categories since the Juniors, there’s no question, and I feel like everybody
else I talked to, when I was talking to your
teammate Lars van der Haar, he said to me something like, “Hey, Jeremy, we knew he was coming. “We knew that he was going to be good,” and, “I can only race against “the guys that are in the race, right?” Like, “I can’t choose how old they are. “I can’t choose who
starts and who doesn’t. “I don’t really have a choice in this.” So I completely see that,
going to other places. Like the racing in Switzerland,
the racing in the UK, has a very, very high level. It’s just traditionally
not with van der Poel, and in theory, well, van Aert as well. – And then you become one of
the best riders very fast, and there are also other good riders, but then it’s up to you to make the race and to the other good
riders to make the race, and it’s a total different thing to do than just follow Michaud
as long as possible and hold on to him as long as possible. And then like all the places are set, it’s just like keep your pace
the whole cyclocross race. It’s a whole different thing and, yeah, Michaud, it’s phenomenal
how fast he rides. I’ve seen it in Juniors. He rode actually in Koksijde for two laps. He set as a Junior, as a
first year Junior, I guess, he set the fastest lap
times of all the categories and it didn’t change, the
parcours didn’t change at all, so that–
– I remember. – Yeah, so it’s totally
crazy racing against him and it’s good sometimes
to not have him around and to race your own race and not just try to follow him as long as possible because that’s what everyone
is trying to do now. – Yeah, I remember that year. I was there and I remember
everyone saying like, “Yeah, he rode faster than
Sven Nys, Neils Albert.” Everybody that was there. He rode two laps consecutively
faster than those guys, and you’re thinking in you’re
head like, huh. (laughs) All right. (laughing) – Yeah, he was like 16 or 17 years old. It’s crazy, it’s really crazy. – So I wanted to also ask
you about the racing schedule and like training and periodization because speaking of
van der Poel, van Aert, and these riders that are kind
of crisscrossing disciplines, you’ve also had a ton
of success doing that. You’ve had a lot of
success on the road as well over the last couple of years. This year, you won the
Fleche-du-Sud, which is a race, for anyone that doesn’t
know, in Luxembourg, but you won that overall
against a lot of good road pros. You’ve been combining disciplines,
racing mountain bikes, definitely earlier in your
career at a good level, then you’ve been racing
at the pro level in road, and I’d love to know a little bit about that periodization that you do and kind of the amount of racing that you do in the spring and summer, and how you use that, to combine that, to get into good shape
for the cyclocross season. – Yeah, I’m trying something, or I’m going to try something
really different this year. So the last couple of years, I always followed the
road schedule of the team and I tried to fit in as much mountain bike races as I could, and I tried to do that
on World Cup level also, which was very hard. And you think, you know, you’re like cyclocross is off-road and mountain bike is off road, and you start to think
it’s almost the same, but it’s something totally different. But it was fun doing that
and the last three years, I think I’ve been having
more success on the road bike and I feel I’m getting
better and better at that. And also this year with Fleche-du-Sud, I felt like I was capable of doing something good and winning races. I wanted to taste a
little bit more of that and so I go to the new team,
Tormans CX Team, in January, and they cooperate with
Wanty-Groupe Gobert in the summer, so I’m going to be able to be riding bigger races in the summer and I’m really looking forward to that. Tomorrow we’re going to run over
the schedule for next summer, but I really, I’m making
to do Ardennes Classics, so I hope to be there this year and to experience what
I’m capable of doing that, and I definitely don’t want
to follow Wout or Michaud, in their footsteps, because
they’re out of category, but, yeah, I’m also want to explore where my capabilities are in road racing, and I’m very happy I
can do that this summer. – Yeah, yeah, you’re going
to be leaving a program that you’ve been with for
a super long time, right? You’ve been with Fidea, or the Telenet Lions or Telenet Baloise. It’s been different itirations, Fidea. You’ve been on the team
for a really long time and you’re going to be moving over now to, I believe you’re going back. Is this new program the
program of Hans Van Kasteren? – Yeah, yeah, so the Tormans
CX Team is going to be where Hans has a good
say in that, and Hans is, it always was my manager,
my personal manager, and he like has something to say into the Tormans CX Team also. It’s like we work together
with Wanty-Groupe Gobert, of course, and we also
have a partnership there, and, of course, we have
to listen to each other, but Hans going to be also, yeah, a big deal in the cyclocross team. – Yeah, you’ve worked with him before. He is, Hans Van Kasteren,
to me, is like the most, he’s the bulldog. He’s like the big guy in
cyclocross racing to me. He put together so many
teams, so many iconic racers. He’s had his hand in it
for such a long time. Yeah, I have to presume you have a great relationship with him. – Yeah, of course, over the
years I already know Hans for 10 or 12 years,
something between that, and, of course, you develop a relationship and it’s very nice working with Hans. He’s a very tough guy and he’s just like says
what’s on his mind, but I really like that about him because I think as a sporter
or as a cyclocross rider, any kind of sports,
sometimes you just have to have someone who just says like, “It’s not good what you’re doing. “You have to be better at that,” or, “You have to work on that,” and sometimes when you’re already at a really good pro level, sometimes people are like
constantly complimenting you, and, “Oh, you’re great at
that, you’re great at that,” but sometimes you just need someone to say on what you’re not good. Hans is really someone
like that and I really, we say it’s the difference between being from Holland and being from Belgium. Belgians don’t say, if you’re bad, they always say positive things, and people from Holland’s,
they’re more directly, and they say like, “All right,
you were very good at that, “but you were very bad at that.” I always liked that about Hans and there’s not a lot
of people who told me, told me where I’m bad
at last couple of years and I always appreciated his honesty, and when Hans say something
and he promise you something, he keeps his word, and that’s
very hard to find in a sport, in any sport, I guess, and
he always kept his word. I’m very happy, yeah, to be
working together with him again. – Yeah, that’s going to be cool, man. Yeah, we would probably
say here it’s someone that will keep it real, you know? No matter what, they’ll be
honest with you about it, so Hans Van Kasteren keeps it real is how I would say that in slang. – Hans just loves the sport and he really cares about the sport, and I think he did a lot to develop the sport over the years, like getting the sport
on TV and doing that, all work behind the screens, which not a lot of people know about, but he did a lot for
cyclocross over the years. Also, coming back for Hans is like, I think coming home from him, and he’s very excited about a new project. You can see him working in something new and, I don’t know, it’s very enjoyable having
him back in cyclocross. – Yeah, I would agree, I would agree. He helped out Tim Johnson. He was a big part of getting
some Americans over there. I think that was one of the reasons that you guys came over
to the races at CrossVegas and were a bit part of the
American circuit there, and that there was kind
of those forming years where we were all starting to explore this internationalization of the sport. I feel like he was a big part of that. – Yeah, correct, correct. He was always like, he always tried to make the
sport bigger in a healthy way, and I didn’t think he
break any promise he made. So if he made a promise with
Tim Johnson coming to Belgium, I know for sure Tim Johnson was in the best hands he could be in. – (laughing) Right. – Yeah, it’s just very
nice guy to work with and what he done for cyclocross, I think no one ever
did something that big, and also it’s through like, look back at, he had all the best cyclocross riders were riding on his team except for Micaud, van der Poel, and Niels
Albert, or Sven Nys. I think Kevin Pauwels
did, Klaas Vantornout did, Eli Iserbyt did, Wout van Aert did. So it’s like Stybar did,
but Wellens, Stombiosen, it’s like a lot of names crosses that and he’s one of the most
experienced guys, I guess, from the whole peloton. – Very exciting, man, very exciting. So you’ll do, sounds like you’ll do a very strong road program then coming up, which is something that
you’re exciting about, the Ardennes with Wanty-Gobert,
which is a division, I believe they’re a division
two team registered in Belgium. – Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s a pro continental team, so, yeah, it’s just under world
tour level, actually, but it’s good because we, I think the team made second place as a pro continental team in
the UCI ranking last year, so we don’t have to ask a wildcard to start any one-day race, so think we are already sure we can race every road to one-day race, so no stage races, but every one-day race, we’re sure that we don’t
have to ask a wildcard, so we can start wherever we want to start. So that’s something very good to have. – I love that, I love that. So and then talking about the, ’cause we’re hearing that van der Poel’s going to stop his season early. He’s going to stop after
the World Championships. I presume that you’ll finish out the series races at very least? – Yeah, no, I’m just going
to finish the season. I’m just going to finish in
those small, the regular. I want to do the Ardennes this year as more of like to get some experience in, and, yeah, just I love
being a cyclocross rider, I don’t want to forget that, and in first place I
am a cyclocross rider, but I just want to explore
what I can do on road races and maybe it’s not the
perfect way to get there, to ride the whole cyclocross season, but I think it’s a good way to get there because Wout and Michaud did it, so it’s a formula that definitely works and the Ardennes are a little bit later than the Classics Michaud is aiming for. So I’ll just try to be at my top shape in the Ardennes this year, or I try to be at top shape to Oostmalle, and then try to get that shape again for the Ardennes Classics, and just explore this year
and see where I can get, and maybe prepare a little
bit better for next year. But in first place, I love cyclocross and I just want to be a cyclocross rider, and I’m not giving up on that. – I love that, yeah, that’s cool. Yeah, I think the road racing
definitely keeps it fresh. It’s a new challenge for you as a rider. I think having success over there, as you’ve seen a lot of your friends do, which is, well, Matthieu, Tim Merlier, is Belgian national champion in the road. There’s been a lot of
crossover and I think a lot of maybe team managers
nowadays are willing to let you guys and let
riders have more freedom because they see that
you guys are so talented and you’re able to kind
of cross the disciplines and have success in both. So, yeah, it’s almost
good that those guys went and they showed themselves
that it was possible, ’cause now I feel like kind
of the world’s in your hand. Like, you can do what you want as long as you have
some amount of success. People are going to be
like, “Yeah, that’s fine. “You can go and do that
stuff, that’s possible.” – Yeah, and also like I hope
some of the world tour teams are even bigger road teams
like Wanty-Groupe Gobert, like start seeing some potential
in some cyclocross riders and start having some
sponsorships in cyclocross. If cyclocross gets more popular
and with Wout and Michaud, it’s obvious cyclocross is
coming more into the picture, and I hope some big teams
also want to step into that, want to step into that story, and I hope they get more into cyclocross. I think it’s a good way to
get cyclocross more popular. – Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. So let’s change gears a little bit. I’d love it if you would walk us through what a classic training
day is like for you, because I think that
there’s so many people who are listening to this show and are not professional riders, and if they are professional riders, they’re not proper Belgian
professional cyclocross riders. I always try to tell people
that the difference for me when I finally spent a
lot of time in Belgium was that the Belgian riders and the Belgian, I would say, fans, and the people that are
involved in the sport, they take it very, very seriously, and I’m sure you have a
lot to say about that, but it is, in some ways
it’s very refreshing and in some ways for a non-Belgian rider it can be, I think,
really exhausting, right? Like everything revolves around the sport. It’s in the paper every day. Everyone, you guys would say,
like lives for the sport. I’d love to know what your day is like and what it goes through because I think it’s a lot different that what maybe some of the other high-level riders that are listening to this would think, and I think for the amateurs
or the non-professional riders, I think they might be like, “Yeah, that’s what
living for is all about.” – Yeah, so it’s hard to tell. If you say, like, is it a Wednesday, or a Tuesday, or a Monday after a race, because the days are so different, but– – A hard day, give us
a hard day. (laughing) – Most of the days, my
Tuesdays are a hard day because I wake up and
get my running gear on as fast as possible, and then, no, no. I wake up, drink as fast
as possible an espresso, putting my running gear on, and then I go running for about
seven or eight kilometers, 30, 40 minute run or so,
and then I come back home. I have some oatmeal most of the times and then I go out on a training ride, which is probably most of the time between two and four hours. Two hours would be with
some short intervals in it, would be with like one minute, or would be like with sprints
or with one-minute efforts, and then the four-hour
ride or the three-hour ride would be with longer efforts
or no efforts at all, just an endurance ride. I come back home, I kill the refrigerator and
eat everything that’s in it because it’s cold in the
winter and, you know, you want to get in as
much sugars as possible. And, no, I always eat soup on mid days because it’s healthy and you get all your vitamins and your veggies in. I don’t eat bread or anything to get some, and some recovery shakes, of course. And the in the afternoon,
I try to rest a little bit and I do a core training. So I go to my, how do you
say it, kinesiologist? Or chiropractor.
– Yes, yes. – But they give me some exercises for my, specific cyclocross exercises for I think a better
core stability on a bike and some explosive trainings. So Tuesday’s always a pretty big day in a week for some training, especially when you race
Saturdays and Sundays. And, you know, like two days, the Tuesdays are always the hardest days after a double-race weekend. So those are hard days. – Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. And what about all the other
things that go into it, right? Like I know that your
family’s probably involved, but I’m sure there’s massage,
and I’m sure that there’s, you have a lot of focus
on the different aspects of how you’re going to get
to and from the racing, campers, getting things set up for you. Yeah, I mean, when I lived there, I remember the gentleman
that I lived with, he had won a stage of the Vuelta. He was properly from West Flanders. And I would get up in
the morning, I would run. I would have to do three hours, riding behind a scooter
for some part of it, out from where I was, all
the way again, come back. Basically lay down there, die, eat everything, then it was to massage. So what you’re saying about
doing that on a Tuesday and then getting ready for
the racing on the weekend, I can imagine with all the travel and 30-plus races per season, yeah, how you manage all that. – As much as training in, depending on if I’m
racing Saturday or Sunday, I always try to get as much training in on
Tuesday and Wednesdays, and I try to focus on recovery on Thursday and Fridays,
if it’s double weekends. If it’s single-weekend racing on Sunday, I always try to have
three solid training days, and, yeah, of course, going to the masseur is something I do two times a week, so it’s a lot of, it’s like, of course, it’s good for recovery, but I have to take the car
and then for Belgian terms, it’s a very long drive for me. It’s a 30-minute drive there. So it takes approximately two
hours, two hours and a half, to get a massages, so
eventually it’s short days and also not also for me
but also for my mechanics. It’s been a crazy last
couple of two weeks. I didn’t race Hamme on Sunday, but, you know, with
Europeans being in Italy, 1,300 hundred kilometers away, moving everything we have for cyclocross, moving there to Italy,
and then we are getting, we are getting there
by, how do you say it? Belgian cycling, we are getting
there by Belgian cycling, and the team, our campers, we manage the campers and
we manage our mechanics, but it also means they’ll
have to leave on Thursday for a race that’s on
Sunday, and they all have, you know, they have a job, they do, so they have to take days off. You know, they’re coming back Monday and I think they were home Monday evening, so they works Tuesday, Wednesday, and I think Thursday and Friday, or Thursday evening they left for Tabor, which was on Saturday, and luckily my mechanics
are a little bit spoiled, so I didn’t have Hamme on the menu, but most of the riders
had Hamme also coming up, so they have to come back for Hamme. It’s a 950 kilometer drive, so it’s crazy to manage all that, but I’m very lucky to have
parents which support me, and have a good mechanic,
and a good driver for my RV, and, yeah, to have that team around you is so important in cyclocross, and not to worry about where
my camper’s going to be. And, oh, do I have to pass
through the addresses, and is he going to be on time,
is he going to be there on time, is he struggling through traffic, and just having that, everything done, and it’s, yeah, feels better, or it’s way easier to handle in your head than you have to worry about all of that. I have to be very thankful for my parents and the people who want to do that for me, and most of the people are doing that as a volunteer in cyclocross. So you have to have to have those people because without those people, there wouldn’t be cyclocross for no one. – Yeah, and one thing I
was able to catch up with, the team owner, your current team owner, Sven Nys, over the summer. We got to go and spend
the day at his training, well, when he was training
a bunch of younger up-and-coming riders with the
program that he does there at his facility in Baal,
Sven Nys Cycling Center, and that was actually one thing that he said that really stuck with me, is that this is a family sport. Cyclocross doesn’t have the pro tour type, I would say, like campers and
this type of infrastructure where there’s a hundred people
in the organization of staff. It is your family is essential part of having success in cyclocross. Would you agree with that? – Yeah, it’s true. Your family and like, you know, my mechanic isn’t family of me, but most of the dads are the mechanics of their sons over there, and their sons are pro riders. So I know Toon Aerts’ dad is his mechanic and so is Adi’s, so Michaud’s
mechanic is his own dad, so it’s really a family sport and I think the whole family needs to support it to be a successful rider. So it’s not only our success, it’s also the success of our whole family. I know my sister studied
at the university, and it’s like all the
attention and weekends go to cyclocross, go to races. I’m very lucky to have an awesome sister who managed to do really well, but they’re like, in the winter, there was almost like
no attention for her, and I could understand for some
families that’s a struggle, but, yeah, all the attention was on me and my family was all
the time at the races. When she wanted to see her
mom or dad in the weekends, she had to come to the races also. – (laughing) Before,
yeah, I’m going to ask you just a couple of other questions, changing gears a little bit. I want to know your English. Your English is really, really good, and I think that other people would be really impressed by your English. I, obviously, do not
speak very good Flemish, although I can try. It’s not good. I’m curious to know how you
learned such impeccable English? – It’s getting worse over
the years, my English again, but I had, I think it
was I was a Junior rider, so it must be seven years
ago, six or seven years ago. I had a Canadian, Benjamin Perry. I met him at a Junior race and he signed up with Lotto Soudal, but he was kind of an
avenger also, I guess, and he didn’t have a place
to stay in Belgium so far, and without asking my
parents, I actually said like, the total beginning of the story is we got in a breakaway with two, and he was a very fair rider. We raced together and he
wanted to race our second and it was sort of my home race, and I actually could have beat him if I didn’t open the gate, like they say, and so we can launch a sprint, because he was at the barriers. And I opened the gap and after
the race he was very fair, and he came to me and said like, “I liked your style of racing,” but I also like him style of racing and we sort of connected
there or something. He told me a story that he signed up with Lotto Soudal Under-23 Team. He came out, so I invited him to my home a couple of weeks later
and we became friends, and then the next year
without asking my parents, he was there. He was staying with us
for seven or eight months. – Oh, my gosh. – Yeah, so it was kind of
surprise also for them. Yeah, we kind of celebrated a little bit too much the day he arrived. My parents weren’t home. It was a good night and
something, a lot to remember– (Jeremy laughing) I know he’s probably laughing now, I’ll only tell Lenny everything
if he hears this show. – Yeah, I love it. – He lived with us for
like two or three years, and always in the summer, and, you know, he stayed, or we slept in the same bedroom and your English getting better
and better over the years, but I’m experiencing some more troubles the last two years with getting out of my words more and more, or losing my words more and more, so I should invite him back into my home. – You can call me any time, man. (laughing) I’ll talk to you any time you want to speak in
English about cyclocross. – You can stay with me if you want. – (laughing) Ay, and I want to talk, I’m going to let you go just in a minute, but I want to know a little bit, ’cause something that I don’t
think people truly understand that are coming from the
English side of the sport and that are listening tot the show, is about fan clubs, your supporter club. You have, I’ve seen the jackets out there, Quinten Hermans Supporter Club. I checked the Facebook
page, they’ve got their bus, they’re going out to Koksijde and they’re going to be supporting you. I think it’s such a big part of what gets you out of bed in the morning and really pushed you as
the people that have chose to support you, to come out to your races, to organize events around
you, and to build you up. I’d love to hear your opinion and a little bit about the supporter clubs in that part of Belgian cyclocross racing. – Yeah, I think it used to be way bigger, the supporter clubs, and it’s getting, after Sven Nys stopped, of course, he had a lot of supporters, and Bart Wellens, he
had a lot of supporters, but I used to live, like one year ago, I used to live in Stal. It’s a very small community
out of where I still live, Deschendelaw, and
there’s one cycling cafe, it’s called De Kriekel,
it’s pretty popular, under cyclocross riders,
or cyclists in the area, or maybe in whole Belgium, and it was 30 meters from my door, and they started talking about organizing a supporter’s
club and organizing buses, because, yeah, I got
better and I got on TV at the Elite races, and, you know, it’s a very small community, and the people coming together to the cafe and talk about it. I think, too, years ago it started, and, yeah, it’s very fun to have. It’s also weird to see
people walking in your coats or your jackets for the first
time, wearing your name. And we made a logo, so they made a logo out of an eagle or something,
holding a handlebar, and I always said if I
have a supporters club, I wanted to have a supporter’s
club that’s all in, and that’s going for the races, and going for the race after parties, and I think we were
pretty successful at that, and maybe I should ask more start money because the supporters I have, they definitely drink the
most beers at the races and they definitely are, the races definitely like to
see them coming to the races, but its so much fun having
those guys out there and supporting you. It’s so nice and, of course, it gives you a lot of
motivation also for this Sunday. It’s a lot of fun having
something like that. – So it sounds like what you’re telling me is that it’d be great to have been probably part of Sven Nys’ supporter club, probably would have been
great to be part of, you know, Tunnard’s, whoever, but it sounds like (chuckles)
the supporter club fan club that I need to be a part of is Quinten Hermans Supporter Club. – I think to have the biggest party and to have the most
stories after the race, and how they call the second half– – Yeah.
– Yeah, definitely, I think my supporters would
be a high rank on TripAdvisor. – All right, just run it past them. See if they love, let a U.S. guy come and hang for a couple. (chuckles) Oh, my gosh, all right, so
I have one other question ’cause I follow you on Instagram, and if you guys that are listening don’t follow Quinten on
Instagram, it’s great. He’s got some awesome posts and some really fun things on there, but your coffee habit, man. I want to know about your coffee habit. It looks like that even with,
you were talking earlier, you said, “Actually, wait,
first things that I do, “I slam an espresso down
and I get out the door.” I want to know your passion for coffee. – Yeah, my passion got
a little bit too big in the beginning of this season. I drunk like, I don’t
know, too much coffee. It’s like seven or eight a day. I felt like, at the moment I felt like, in September or August I felt like, damn, I’m just, I’m a caffeine addict. And now I slowed my tempo. I’m just keeping it on
two a day, but I do, actually, nothing special, I just try to get the quality beans in, but I’m not the rocket espresso guy who works on his coffee one hour a day. That’s too much of a hassle. I just like some good beans and go to some good coffee shops, like not the coffee shops
you have in Holland, but, I mean, like for real coffee. And, yeah, it’s nothing special, but I just like coffee and
wherever I go, I try to, or in Tabor I went to one, or I try to, wherever I go, I try to
visit some coffee shops and it’s always nice to
do, but some sort of hobby, but it got a little bit
out of hand in August. Now I’m back on the rails again. – I love it, I love it. (chuckles) All right, and I want to
end with this question, but what your goals are
for the rest of the season. You’re so young. You’ve had obviously a
ton of success already. You’ve been on the podium
of the World Championships. You’ve been Belgium
national champ as Under 23. You’ve won the overall
in many of the series. Obviously, as an Elite rider, you have a lot of things
I’m sure you’d like to do, but I’m curious to know for
this year and then overall, like, what is your hope? What are you training for? What’s getting you out
of bed every morning? – I want to stand on the
World Cup podium once more. I did it one time in Iowa two years ago. I was for some sort of weird way, I was in a great shape back then, and I don’t know how
I got into that shape. Also made me click, so for me mentally I could
make it to the podium, but I had Superprestige podiums this year, but I want to get back
on that World Cup podium as soon as possible. And, yeah, I think that’s the
biggest goal of this season, of course, stealing that, but why is not very much going to like it, but, of course, having the
new team colors on in January, being as good as possible
those two months, January and February, is
a really big goal of mine, and, yeah, maybe one of my biggest goal is standing on one of
the World Cup podiums after the nationals. I think it’s Nomad and Hoogerheide. I really would like to get there and be at my best shape there, and, of course, the World
Championships’ our goal, but to be on that World Cup podium again and to have that feeling
for racing for World Cup on that level in the
biggest races there is, to be able to stand on a podium again, that’s one of my main
goals again this season. – Yeah, that’s fantastic, dude. I hope you are able to achieve that. Well, I want to say thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us. Rest up, have a good up and
coming next couple of weeks, and, yeah, we’ll be cheering you along, and thanks so much for your time today. – Well, thank you. Should I call the supporter’s club for an extra member then, Jeremy? – I’ll be over end of
December, just after Christmas, so, yeah, just put my name in. Put my name in the bin, please. That’ll be the most watched GCN cyclocross video we’ve ever done. All right, dude, thank you. – No, thank you, thank you, Jeremy. – What a great conversation with Quinten. It was fun to be able
to catch up with him, learn all about him, hear
about Belgian cyclocross from someone that’s truly
in it week in and week out, and has been for their entire life. I feel like I learned a lot. I learned a lot about Quinten
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