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Road Bike Tech We Want To See In The Future: How Can Cycling Get Better? | GCN Tech Show Ep.94

Road Bike Tech We Want To See In The Future: How Can Cycling Get Better? | GCN Tech Show Ep.94


(exploding) – Welcome to the GCN tech show. This week we’ve got a bike
that you can ride on water, and some new waterproofs, too, because you’re probably
going to need them. – Yeah, handy. Also got your upgrades, the Bike Vault, and
our main talking point, future tech that me and Jon want to see. – Yes, let’s do it. (exploding) All right then, Ollie,
seeing as you’re back, and you’ve got the most vivid imagination of anybody I know, I thought it’s about time we put our little thinking caps on, and we thought about bike
tech that we’d love to see. Plus, it’s a good opportunity
for that lot watching to have a think about this too. So first up, my idea is super thin bikes. – Arrow. Like it, I like what you’re thinkin’ here. – I knew you’d like this one. Right, Ollie, it’s time
for you, my friend, to take a trip a down memory lane. Imagine us holding hands,
skipping down into the sun. No, don’t imagine that. Right, okay, the year is 1996. It’s the Atlanta Olympics. The U.S. Olympic team
took to the velodrome aboard a bike with the imaginative
title of the Superbike. Now, it was made by GT,
who really specialized in mountain bikes, but this bike was really cutting edge. Now it had loads of
great features about it, and one of them was the actual fact that they were bespoke made
for each and every person who rode one. So the women’s teams,
and also the men’s team, they all got them, and it was like, well,
the equivalent, really, of having a suit exactly made for you.
– [Ollie] Really? – [Jon] Your custom dimensions. – [Ollie] Do they have any
other stand out features? – Well, yeah, literally,
it did not stand out. This bike was a super narrow, super thin. It’s said to have been
two third more aerodynamic than a standard track bike, which is pretty impressive, but the fact that the hubs
were about half the width, and also the bottom
bracket was half the width, so I think it says quite a bit. I mean, all right, Graeme Obree, he was tinkering’ round with this, but these were also reported
to be forty million dollars for the whole lot to be made, basically. So again, it might have had a
bit of marketing spin on it, but that is pretty impressive. – That’s mad, but it does
make you think, though, with materials in the
future getting, well, lighter and stronger, it could be possible to build a bike that’s just super thin. And I mean, aside from looking mint. – Chillest? – No, it just means, like, cool. – Oh right, okay. – They would just have much
reduced frontal area in theory, making them far more aerodynamic. But, I mean, imagine a bike where head on, it’s just kind of like– – It’s like a knife.
– Yeah. – Yeah, those GTs were like that. I wonder if we’ll see them again. – Yeah, well. – That’s what I’m saying.
– I’ve got one for you, then. – Go on. – What’s your thinking on more gears? Like 13 speed, 14 speed, a million speed. – I told you you had a vivid imagination. Right, extra gears, they’re all well and good and everything, but, well, 10 or 11 speed, I still use 10 speed on one of my bikes, and I’m pretty happy with it. There are things I would
rather see, though. – Yeah, I think me too, actually. – Go on. – Well, like greater durability. I think I’d rather have, if you could give me
a 10 speed drivetrain, like Dura-Ace 10 speed or something, but it lasts 10 times longer than, I don’t know, even 11 speed, I’d like to have it. – [Jon] Really?
– [Ollie] Yeah. – [Jon] So, right, here’s
one, then, so basically– – [Ollie] Like greater
durability, I think, would be amazing. – Yeah, I like what
you’re thinking, there. So I’ve got an idea, then, how ‘about a super light belt drive bike? – Yeah, like encased– – Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s like a hub gear, super light, works, minimal maintenance.
– Yeah, it’s a good idea. I mean, we’ve spoken about this before, the fact the conventional
drivetrains are inefficient, but it would seem to be
quite a radical departure, well, conventional
drivetrains are inefficient when it comes to the
fact that they get dirty and they’re exposed to dirt, but yeah, interesting. – Is belt drive the future? Well, they’ll let us know, won’t they? – Yeah, they well.
– Yeah. – Well that’s just given me an idea, Jon. – Go on.
– Well, cleaning, right? So an enclosed drivetrain is going to be more aerodynamic and also
keep the drivetrain cleaner, but your frame is still
going to get dirty. So wouldn’t it be good if bikes were kind of, like, I don’t know, self-cleaning in the future. And the way you could do that would be using the same hydrophobic
ceramic coatings that you can get aftermarket
to apply to cars. So people put these on, and if you’re not familiar, the hydrophobics, they repel water, and it just means that dirt
doesn’t stick to your car. Imagine if that was
integrated into bike frames and bike products, but maybe, if it was a permanent
coating on the surface, you know, these things are going
to be possible in the future. – As a standard thing as well for new. Do you remember Eurobike, I saw that guy who had the ceramic coating and stuff, and that was really cool, and I was throwing loads of mud at it and it just didn’t stick. Tell you what, that’d be a real
game changer in cyclo-cross, because I have seen this. I remember once, someone did
something on some clothes, might’ve been Biorace
or someone, and they had half of a bib short
made out of this fabric, and half of it not, and they rode along through
all this muddy lanes, and then there was one
bum cheek that was clean and one bum cheek that was dirty. Not actual bum, don’t worry,
it was the actual shorts. But yeah, you can imagine,
a cyclo-cross race, which is dead muddy, it could
be the difference between literally winning and losing. – [Ollie] Do you know what,
I reckon we should do a video on this? We should try and ceramic coat a bike– – I thought you meant, like, the– – No, not a bum thing.
– Okay, right. – We should ceramic coat a bike, and then ride it through muddy weather and see what happens to it. – Yeah, put it through its paces. I mean, even our friends on
the mountain bike channel, they’d love this as well. I’m gettin’ really excited. I knew you’d be good for this. Vivid imagination. – Thanks, man.
– It’s all right. Oh yes, we couldn’t do it, could we, without mentioning disc brakes. Now, disc brakes are
better than rim brakes in certain circumstances. Let’s face it, we’re not going to open up that can of worms today, because we don’t have the time. But, give me a disc brake
that makes much less noise, or less noise, we can say, slightly lighter, and, well, don’t bend as easily, or get damaged as easily, I guess when you put them
in and out of the car. I’d be interested to hear
what we could do about that. – How we going to do that?
– Don’t know. Those lot might know. – Yeah, well, it’s a good point, I see. If any of you guys have any ideas, maybe you’re engineers, about how disc brakes could
be improved in the future, then, well, let us know in the comments. – Bet you 50 P someone says carbon. And don’t go deleting their comments. – I don’t delete comments. – When there’s 50 P involved you would. All right, here’s one for you, then. Everlasting cleats. – That sounds like somebody from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.” – Well, I reckon that
our friend Augustus Gloop would approve, Ollie–
– Our friend? – Well you never know if he’s watching. I’d like to give him a shout out.
– Are they chocolate? – They’re not chocolate, no, but they would be everlasting, right. So when I put cleats on shoes,
I absolutely obsess over it. I take hours and hours doing
all the different measurements. I know you can draw around
them and try and put them on, but it never really satisfies me. I like to take ages, but
I don’t want to take ages. So, if someone out there
could develop something that lasted forever, that would be absolutely amazing. Years ago there was something
called Foster cleats for look pedals, the old look delta ones, made of aluminum. Never to be seen again. Probably a lawsuit or something happened, and they had to stop producing them. But yeah, an everlasting
one would be great. – I think one of the problems here is consumerism. – Yeah, true. – So all these things we’re talking about, everlasting stuff, it’s no good for consumerism, is it, because you buy one,
and they last forever, and the manufacturers go bust ’cause they don’t sell
anything ever again. (laughing)
– It’s great for us. But I’m surprised you, as
a tight-fisted Northerner, aren’t jumping for joy at these suggestions. – I wants it–
– Of course he does. – But I want everlasting bearings, if we’re doing everlasting. – Oh, old Augustus would be doubly happy. – Well, everlasting bearings, I mean, we’ve got to step, or just
ones that last longer. I mean, we got a glimpse of
a potential solution for this at Eurobike this year. – We did.
– Cane Creek. We’ve mentioned them before. They have that Hellbender bottom bracket. And what that featured was,
instead of the normal oil or lubricant that you would
have as a liquid inside, or a non-Newtonian fluid inside the bearing sealed cartridge, what you had instead was
this kind of polymer matrix that was like a sort of solid
lubricant polymer thing. And the idea was that it
wouldn’t ever wash out if you jet washed it. – Great idea, though, isn’t it? I wonder–
– It’s really interesting. – I mean, I wonder about the
friction of, and everything, in a headset would be absolutely fine, because it’s not spinning
around at speed, is it? But I reckon your wheels
and jockey wheels, I don’t know, yeah, it’d be great to actually get some
of those and test ’em. – It’d be interesting to know– – That’s what I mean.
– If that kind of system does have more friction in it than a bearing, but. – I mean, I guess,
they’ve got to wear out– – They last a long time.
– At some point. They have to. But I presume then you
could keep the metal casing, and just pop that out and
put it back in, a new one. Great idea. Everlasting. – Right, what else, then, what do you want to see? – All right, I’d quite
like to see a clear frame. No real reason. Just because, I suppose. I mean, it would look
fantastic, wouldn’t it? – A clear frame?
– Yeah, a clear frame. Have you ever seen a clear can of coke? – No.
– They used to do it. (laughing) Someone out there will remember Tab Clear. It was just a clear can. You could see what was in it. Fantastic. – I do remember in the 90s, there was an obsession with making every sort of gadget clear. Like you’d get a Game Boy clear, or a Playstation
controller that was clear, or, you’d get, I don’t
know, like a water pistol that was clear. – Yeah, now the good thing about this is, for someone who likes
to tinker with things– – The things I owned as a child. – Yeah, exactly, yeah, that was his life just
explained in a nutshell. (laughing) The things here which actually sort of
intrigues me about it is that those products
you’ve just mentioned, before I went ahead and took ’em apart and got a tellin’ off from my dad, I could actually see
what was inside of them, so I knew what I was going to get into. And I reckon with a clear frame, things like internal cable routing, that would be a joy to do. Because you could see
exactly what the cable was potentially getting stuck on. – You could see hidden motors as well. – Oh, yes, you could, yes. Lordy, you wouldn’t be
able to get away with it anymore, mate. – Yeah, I saw some hidden, well, at Canyon launch a few
years ago, for the Ultimate. – Why have you never–
– I might have some pictures, I’ll dig ’em out. – Why have you never told me that? – I dunno. – But I guess it begs the question, what at home would you
love to see in the future? – Yeah, let us know. Your imagination’s more vivid than ours. – Yeah, just go wild. Not too wild. Right, now back to those muddy bib shorts. (exploding) – Hot tech now. First up, Rapha has released
some new waterproof jackets for winter riding. And the jackets make
use of the same fabric that’s found in the Gore
One Shakedry jackets. – [Jon] Yeah, now they’ve
got a lightweight one, too, which of course does use that fabric, and looks very similar,
actually, to the Shakedry one from Gore. – Just got kind of rougher branding. – Yeah, just some subtle details, really. I like the look of that. – Yeah, and there’s also
a sort of heavier duty, more insulated one that makes use of a fleece lining in it made from Polartech Alpha fabric, for when the weather’s really, really bad. – It’s got to be warm, that, doesn’t it?
– Yeah. And it’s got quite an interesting design, ’cause it’s got a snood that
comes out the top as well and keeps your head warm. – Do you know what? I’ve got a jacket from someone
that I got a few years ago, and it’s got one of those inbuilt hoods, or actually, it’s like built
on poppers, you can put it up. And when you put it up, you
do not want to take it down, ’cause you think, I’ve warmed
up now, I’ll take it down. And you get so cozy in them. It’s nice, though.
– Yeah, interesting design. – Yeah. – Jon, do you love cycling? – Yeah. – Do you love the sea? – Yeah! – And also, do you love e-bikes? – Yes, yes, yes! – Well, in that case, the
Manta XE-1 hydrofoiler e-bike could be for you. – Oh yes, this means I can get out my Lycra sailor’s outfit
and go out for a ride. – Yeah, it’s essentially an e-bike that you can ride on the high seas, and it hydroplanes. – Wow. I reckon the tech squadron could well remember this one. – Yeah. – Because we talked about
it in a previous tech show, didn’t we?
– We did. – ‘Cause it was a Kickstarter
project, I do believe. – Yep, correct, yeah. Yeah, so what started as
a crowdfunding project is actually taking orders now, although if you do order one, you’ll have to wait until May
2020 to get your hands on it, and it’ll cost you seven thousand, nine
hundred and forty dollars. – Give us a loan? – It’s just a drop in the
ocean for you, that, Jon. – I see what you did then, bad joke. Right, okay, I did have
a little look, actually, of a video of this. So once you get going, you can actually hydroplane along. How cool is that? That is, like, a lot of fun. – Yeah, it looks like loads
of fun. Oh, you’d love it. Imagine you commuting from
your riverside cottage, down the river, down the canal to Bath. (sighing)
– Idyllic, that. – Yeah, cutting up narrow
boats, tearing up the waterways. – I don’t know about that, mate. – So I’ll buy a leather jacket. – Bad to the bone. – He’d love it. – Right, and finally, French brand TIME have
released a new range of pedals designed for off-road use or mixed surface adventure riding called the Cyclo. – [Ollie] Yeah, the Cyclo’s
available in three models. The top of the range is the Cyclo 10. It’s the lightest and stiffest option, just 128 grams claimed for each pedal. And there’s also the Cyclo 6, and Cyclo 2. – Yeah, now these pedals, like we’ve said, are designed for that off-road
or mixed adventure use, but they’ve also taken
technology from a road pedal, so it’s got a bigger platform, so you can get down more power, I guess it’s safe to say. Although, you can still get a lot of power out of quite a small pedal, too. But, the important thing about it is it’s got loads of clearance for mud. It uses a 2-bolt cleat, and well, it looks ideal,
really, for those of us who don’t want to go down the
dual-sided SPD style route. – Yeah, intriguing. – More tech next week. (screwing) (ringing) – It’s now time for Screw
Riding Upgrades, Buy Upgrades, where you submit evidence of the upgrades that you’ve made to
your bikes or equipment for a chance to win a mystery prize. – That’s right. We’re going to mix it up from
now on, aren’t we, a little bit. So who knows what you could win. – Yeah, it could be
rubbish, it could be great. You’re just going to have
to wait and find out. – Yeah.
– Anyway, Jon, I wasn’t here last week, so who won? – Well, it was between Gavin and Rob, and the winner was Gavin. (cheering)
– 66% of the votes, so get in touch with us–
– Comprehensive. – Gavin. Yeah, on Facebook to arrange a delivery of the last ever GCN
Camelbak eddy water bottle. Lucky, lucky person.
– Limited edition. – Exactly, strictly. Right, anyway, this week, then, we’ve got a battle of
the Danish on our hands. Because it was two absolutely crackin’ entries from this–
– Bacon versus pastries? – Steady on, steady on. All right, Carlsberg
versus something else. I jest. Right, okay, first up then
is Lasse from Denmark. Now a neighbor of Lasse was going to throw away
an old JAMIS cross bike. The bike was in, quite
honestly, dire condition. But Lasse was inspired by, apparently, this is Lasse’s words, not mine, Jon’s awesome garbage to gravel build. Lasse decided to see if this old bike could be given a new life with
enough love and elbow grease. Taking it apart, it became apparent that many things needed a complete refurb, and some were too badly damaged to, well, carry on using. But with a goal of spending
as little money as possible, and reusing as much as Lasse could, he repainted the frame
with a two tone paint, in the Keirin Flake rainbow
topcoat from Spray.Bike. – Nice.
– Yeah, very nice. With a new new rear mech
continental Cross King 35 millimeter tires,
cables, saddle, bar tape. This old bike was given a new life. Cost around 80 pounds, so about
a hundred dollars, I guess, and some old spare parts. Super fun in the woods,
and will also serve as a great commuter and winter bike. Look at that rusty old wreck.
– I just can’t believe how rusty it was, and how, this look like it’s
been attacked by a bear. – [Jon] It look. – [Ollie] I mean, look at it.
– [Jon] A bear? – [Ollie] Well, like, the
saddle’s ripped a bit, and the bar is mental. – [Jon] It looks like it’s been. – [Ollie] Look at that! – [Jon] It looks like
it’s been it the North Sea for awhile, actually, Lasse. Anyways, all stripped, that, whoa, whoa, whoa.
– Look at that. Wowzas. – [Jon] Yeah. – [Hosts] I like that paint job. – [Ollie] Oh, see?
– [Jon] Bit weird. – [Ollie] Great minds. – [Jon] Yeah. – [Ollie] That’s made, that’s wicked. – [Jon] Yeah, it looks
good, doesn’t it, that? – [Ollie] Yeah.
– [Jon] All right, go on. Who’s Lasse up against, then? – He’s up against Jeppe from Odense. – You know that quite well, actually, well, you managed to
pronunciate that one all right. – Well, I don’t know, that was a complete guess.
– Yeah, yeah, it is, Jeppe from, well,
I think the Danes would say Odense, or something like that.
– Jeppe, Jeppe. – Jeppe, Jeppe. It’s definitely Jeppe.
– Jeppe’s sister– was turning 30.
– Don’t speak like that they definitely don’t speak like that. – Well, anyway, Jeppe’s
sister was turning 30, and she liked bikes, but has never owned anything
than a really heavy, sluggish, rubbish, internally geared bike, so– – The ones that we were
talking about earlier, on, that we dream of having of
having an internally geared– – More arrow, cleaner, yeah. So Jeppe, as a vintage aficionado, decided to correct that mistake, and build her a bike. So he’s taken a 1979 Everton mixed, and he got it at a bargain price, roughly 35 pounds. – [Jon] Bargain. – [Ollie] And he said it was unusable. All the bearings were seized and rubbish, and the previous owner had painted over 40 years’ worth of rust spots. – Naughty. – Yeah, so he stripped it, sanded it, and, well, yeah, completely stripped it. With the bike stripped, he got it primed, painted, clear coated it
with a Spray.Bike again– – [Jon] Yes! – [Ollie] They’re doing well off us, we should be doing–
– [Jon] They are! – [Ollie] Like a bonus. – [Jon] Yeah, a commission–
– [Ollie] Yes! – [Jon] Of some sort, yeah. – [Ollie] In British racing green. – [Jon] Well, I was thinking
more in bullion bars, the commission. Oh, sorry, the paint was–
– The paint was racing green. And then he fit it with
an older set of wheels. Heavy, but reliable. Clément 32 millimeter tires, SUNTOUR aRX rear mech, Shimano RX friction shifters. Oh wow, look at that. – [Jon] I’ll tell you what. Jeppe’s sister is going to be–
– [Ollie] Look at the stripping. – [Jon] Pretty impressed
with that, isn’t she? – Yes, that racing green, it looks like the Flying Scotsman, doesn’t it?
– [Jon] Yeah, it does, yeah. – Or an E-Type Jag. – That’s exactly what I
was thinking, actually, I’m more of a Jag man
than the Flying Scotsman. – Yes. 4472 is the number of the Flying Scotsman. – Okay. Yes, and the decals as
well, it looks good, I’ll tell you what,
looks really nice, there. I do like those mixed frames. – [Ollie] I like that.
– [Jon] Yeah. – [Ollie] That’s the–
– [Jon] Mud guards, as well. – [Ollie] That’s very–
– [Jon] Great– – [Ollie] Classic.
– [Jon] Yeah, just cruise around those Danish streets on that. – I hope your sister
realizes how lucky she is. – To have a brother like you. – Yes, right.
– Who’s it going to be, though? – That’s tough this week, yeah, it’s a close one this week.
– It is, it is going to be close this week. – You decide. – Yeah, vote up there. Mystery prize as well. (laughing) I like a mystery. (exploding) All right, it’s now
time for the Bike Vault, which we–
– My favorite. – We love it, don’t we. It’s so good. We like when another
presenter wants to come in, when we let them, they’re so excited to come
in and do the Bike Vault, it’s ridiculous. Anyway, if you’re not aware
what the Bike Vault is, well, it’s nice and simple Use the uploader tool found down there in the description below, and you can upload pictures
of your beloved pride and joy. And we want all the details
about it as well, don’t we. It’s got to look good, too. And then what, if it gets rated nice, well, if it’s a nice bike,
if it gets rated super nice, it goes into the Bike Vault, and, well, we ring the bell. – Yeah. Do we have to get, have we go the bell? We get the bell, then?
– Funny enough, yes we have – What? (clanging) Oh, I thought it, I thought
the bell had gone missing. – Well, it had gone missing, Ollie, but I went out and bought another one. Are you all right? – Yeah.
– You look a bit– – Yeah, I’m all right.
– Gettin’ a little bit red. – Yeah, that’s.
– All right, okay. A little bit strange. But don’t worry though, mate,
because the original bell, I mean, this one cost me nine pounds, 99. The original one, the IT
squad are looking through all the CCTV footage to
try and find the culprit who removed it from here. Right, anyway, let’s crack
on with the first one in this week. That comes in from Tim in Beverley, in East Yorkshire. That’s up your neck of the woods– – Aye.
– Isn’t it? – It is, aye. – That’s a, no, it’s Tim, it’s not I. Oh, right, it’s your
funny language, isn’t it. Right, okay, it’s a Cyfac. They’re French bikes. They were one of the first people to use quite different shaped tubes and stuff. What you thinking, I like it. – [Ollie] I’ll tell you what. He’s watched the vid.
– [Jon] He has. – [Ollie] I mean, he’s paid attention.
– [Jon] Oh, Tim. Tim, Tim, Tim.
– Look at the 3 o’clock crank, Biggie Smalls. You know, he’s cleaned
it, nice clear background. Wheels are aligned. He’s doing a good job there, isn’t he. – We’ve got.
– [Ollie] He’s removed his accessories. – [Jon] Removed his bottle cages. Tim’s going to get thirsty. With, with– – [Ollie] Nice bar tape
job he’s done there. Neat wrap. – [Jon] Looks like thick,
as well, doesn’t it? – [Ollie] And it matches his pedals, and the blue bits on the frame. – [Jon] And also, the blue Nokon cables that haven’t gone unnoticed by us, has it? – [Ollie] They’ve gone unnoticed by me, and my color blindness. I was struggling to pick those out. – Oh yeah. – But yes, super nice to me, that– – Yeah, super nice all day long. Do I ring it? – [Ollie] No, no–
– [Jon] Okay, I’ll ring it. (ringing) Right, who do we have up next, then? – Wowzas. – Crumbs, I know that place. – Yes, it’s Darren. And Darren appears to
be at Longleat House. – [Jon] Oh, you little devil, Darren. – I hope that he didn’t drive his, cycle his bike through
the monkey enclosure, and have monkeys doing obscene things on his handlebars, as they often do to
peoples’ cars, but yes. – Longleat, by the way, is a safari park– – And a stately home.
– Yes, and a stately home. Is it Lord Bath who lives there? – It is, yeah, he’s. Well, that’s a very, very nice
Cervelo C3 he’s got there. It’s from Force One Bike. Good to see guards in action– – [Jon] Yeah, I do like–
– [Ollie] It’s become. – [Jon] A mud guard. – [Ollie] It’s become guard season here.
– [Jon] Officially guard season.
– [Ollie] This is near to where we are. Although that’s a nice day, the roads are covered
in rubbish right now, they’re really dirty.
(laughing) – Yes, they are. Could do with some of that
ceramic coating on there, couldn’t they? – I like the functionality of that. I like that he’s got his
guards on, and it’s neat. The matching bottle kind of works. – The cranks, they’re not doing it for me.
– I know. – The valves, they’re not doing it for me. – And he’s not in Biggie Smalls, and he’s not cleaned it. I mean, he is mid ride,
unless he lives at Longleat, unless it is Lord Bath,
but he says his name is Darren.
– [Jon] It’s Darren, yeah. – Lord Bath’s first name isn’t Darren. – No. I’ve forgotten his name. There was a program all about the Longleat thing on TV. Did you ever see that? – With Ben Fogle. – Yeah.
– Anyway, forget about that. Americans don’t–
– No, there was another one as well, but yeah. – Right, nice. – Yeah, nice bike, yeah,
we could’ve just done with better attention to detail here. Right, okay, next up is
Steve from Australia, with a 1996 Eddy Merckx MX Leader in Team Motorola colorway. Now this one is Greg Randolph’s old team bike, I’ve been led to believe. Now, Randolph, random fact, he rode just one season with Motorola. Or probably even half a season,
started in May, I think. He was a main support
rider for Lance Armstrong during the Atlanta Olympics in ’96. – Right, two questions here. That’s a mint looking bike, but why are we in small big. – Dunno. – And, where on earth is it? – That’s got to to be in a
photo shoot, look at the shadow. See, I noticed a few of these things when I was picking them out, and I thought, do you know what, the saddle isn’t, I
mean, the bars are high, the stem is higher than
the saddle, I think. – [Ollie] That’s retro, though. – [Jon] Yeah, we should, but still– – [Ollie] Yeah, but you just
use the drops on these bikes. – [Jon] Yeah, that’s true, yeah. But the shadow’s intriguing
as well, isn’t it. – [Ollie] It is. – [Jon] Yeah, there’s something I really like about it, because– – It’s a great photo. It’s a professional level piece of bike photography we’re dealin’ with. – But I think it’s the Biggie
Smalls we’re missing out on. – It is, and the chain could be cleaner. – [Jon] Yeah, and the
saddle could be more retro– – [Ollie] But it’s an exquisite bike. It’s a shame that you’ve
gone to all that trouble of doing a professional level photo. – [Jon] Something that
we, we can advise on. Don’t worry, Steve.
– You’ve lined the valves up, – We can help.
– You’ve cleaned it, it’s mint, but you
haven’t cleaned the chain, and you’ve put it in the wrong gear. – Could well’ve been–
– What are you doing? – Could well have been
a Status black chain. – Ridiculous.
– But anyway, yeah, okay, so nice, then. Steve, get in touch, and Ollie and I can run you through our, you know–
– Unbelievable. – We do offer photography
services outside of here. Right, okay, nice bike. Okay, who’s next. – Next up we’ve got Andrew
who’s in Vancouver, Canada, with his S-Works Tarmac Disc. – Look at that.
– [Jon] Look at that. – [Ollie] Big grip on the bar tape. What’s he been doing to that?
– [Jon] I don’t know, he’s obviously not, maybe
he moves around a bit on it. So what we got, right, we’ve
got valves lined up, tick, valve caps, not really a tick,
is it, although they do– – [Ollie] No.
– [Jon] They have– – [Ollie] He’s in Biggie Smalls. – [Jon] Yep, approved. But okay, they just don’t match, but they kind of match with the frame and what’s going on with the color scheme. – [Ollie] Yeah, I think
he’s removed his appendages. You know, he’s got no
saddlebag on there and stuff. – [Jon] Yeah, everything’s cool. – [Ollie] It’s quite nice. I quite like how on that, on that, is that a fabric saddle? – [Jon] Looks like it.
– [Ollie] The white edge, kind of works pretty
well with the white bits on the rest of the bike. – I just thought. Do you reckon this has been Photoshopped, and that’s just a picture of a rock, because that white edge,
maybe it’s not a white edge. Maybe that’s just a really bad Photoshop. – Nah, I’m going that’s real.
– Okay. – ‘Cause there’s a bit of,
he’s done well to really get the grass.
– Get the grass, yeah, in front of the wheel.
– But maybe he’s taken that from his aquarium at home, and he’s. No? – Do you know what, bonus points, as well, ’cause if he’s in Canada, he probably only had five seconds. This is what I know a lot about, Canada. He had about five seconds
before a bear came and attacked him–
– [Jon] And the weather looks too good as well.
– [Ollie] To take that photo. So, you know, he was up against it.
– Maybe that was, maybe he submitted that
before the bear came away. – I think that’s a super nice. – Yeah, Andrew, if you’re
still with us, mate. (laughing)
Only joking. Super nice bike. (ringing) Lovely. All right, who’ve we got– – Oh, look at that.
– I’ll tell you what. – Wow.
– Wow. Hang on a minute, we need to, we need to. Oh no! It’s all gone wrong. It’s all
gone wrong in the Bike Vault. And this is Thomas in
Seminole County, Florida. And this is amazing. It’s flawless, it’s a
killer, it heals the pain, it’s ready to go and
start spinning the wheel. It’s not too funky. When you ride it outside
you’ll get lots of freedom. Have faith in me, Ollie, and most of all, don’t let the sun go down on me if I forget my lights on that bike. – Didn’t know you were a big George fan. – Big George Michael, I am indeed. – Yeah, yeah, well I’m a
bit of a Bowie fan myself. – Go on, then, hit me with some facts. – I’ve got some interesting
facts for you, right, about Bowie. Now, of course, real name, David Jones. Changed his name to Bowie, his stage name, so he wouldn’t be
confused with Davy Jones, from the Monkeys. And it’s also a common misconception that David Bowie’s eyes are
actually heterochromatic. Eye different colors. This is incorrect. In actual fact, his ocular oddity actually came about during an accident when he was 15, or David,
was just 15 years old. He got in a fight with his
good friend, George Underwood, over a girl.
(whistling) And George Underwood’s
fingernail sliced David’s eye. – Correct. That stuff’s. (groaning) Awful, isn’t it. – Yeah, so as a result of
that, he actually suffered from an enlarged pupil for
the rest of his life. And that wasn’t enough, right? In 2004, get this, right. David Bowie was hit in the eye with a lollipop while
performing in Oslo, Norway. – [Jon] Dangerous stuff. – [Ollie] Yeah, it was
thrown on stage at him and became stuck, and a member of David Bowie’s crew actually managed to remove it, and the singer then
bravely continued the show. – Ollie. I can’t make you love me. Did they try to get him
in the eye on purpose? – I don’t know, but that’s
a fantastic mural, isn’t it? Super nice mural. Oh, I love David Bowie. “Let’s Dance” is–
– [Jon] I love George Michael. – [Ollie] My favorite album. – [Jon] Is it?
– [Ollie] Controversial, I know. – [Jon] All right, well we’ve
got to give it super nice, haven’t we? (ringing) More Bike Vault next week. There we are, another
tech show in the bag. Love it. – Yeah, I hope you enjoyed it. If you enjoy our content
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100 comments on “Road Bike Tech We Want To See In The Future: How Can Cycling Get Better? | GCN Tech Show Ep.94

  1. What would you like to see on road bikes in the future? Belt drives?Carbon disc brake rotors? Let us know in the comments below 👇

  2. replying to John about how he spends hours setting up cleats on the bottom of his shoes. Draw around the cleat on the bottum of the shoe with a paint pen or permanent marker works a treat then u always get them in the same position

  3. I would like to see more eco-friendly bikes and accessories. Perhaps a universal environmental rating system would be a good starting point, creating awareness and helping the consumer to navigate this issue. Materials such as carbon fiber worry me in this regard. One of the major reasons I ride as much as possible is to avoid driving a car due to environmental concerns. The issue is likely to grow, so it would seem like a ripe market to get into.

  4. This episode should've gotten a part of it in this year's bloopers: Jon not doing "RINGING THE BELL!" while Oliie sweats himself with a guilty conscience.

  5. Hi Jon, another great episode as always.
    In reguards to clear frames, check out Griffen Vulcan XTC. Not a clear frame but have clear planels on the frame that allows you to see through the frame.

  6. Do you think internal routing would be attractive on a clear frame? I suspect we'd just run translucent cable housings on the outside

  7. Clip on truing tool, ceramic coated rims for better performing rim brakes(disc brakes are pushed too much). CLP gun cleaner for the drive train cleans and lubricates and protects. Harder 10 tooth sprockets, better bearings. About bearings, the gunkseal that exists between sheild and inner race is a overlooked component; it performs a function. Before it forms bearings have to me 'sneezed'; this is when you overload grease inside the cartridge or between two cartidges(if two cartridges take the inner seals out) and use the system until the grease stablizes. Now the bearings will last much longer. Just dont remove the gunkseal. Cheaper bikes. Its ridiculous the costs. Disc brakes for most bicyclists are useless.

  8. How about instead of bearings, magnetic or electromagnetic on all spinning things. Completely frictionless. It's all just floating

  9. Rapha poor weather jacket in black, seriously!?! How about some cool his vis colours? Doesn't effect me cos the only way I can wear Rapha is to nick it 😟

  10. What about clear Ampeg Guitars? Super heavy acrylic, but – perhaps a special ultralight project for the bike engineers or Jon's imagination for the future.

  11. I'd like rider safety to be taken more seriously. Putting a tiny reflective trim on kit is not good enough.
    Oh, there a Rapha jacket that's almost entirely black to prove my point.

  12. What I'd love to see? Being able to have the bike in the colour I want, regardless of the components on it, I mean what the hell!!!

  13. Right comment from Ollie. Sadly, companies are not interested in durable components, as they want to sell you a brand new one every year. That's how capitalism works.

  14. Molded oil or “Matrix” bearings were introduced by NSK in 2000 I think, I would not recommend them. Friction heat from the bearing is required to melt the polymer to 120degc to release the lubricant. Therefore in low friction conditions eg, down hills, traffic lights and maybe the peloton the lubricant will become solid. Headsets, yes, due to lack of maintenance. The most important part of a bearing used on a bike is the seal.

  15. VR zwift, and trainer with realistic terrain simulator? Attached to bike frame, when the road goes up so does the bike, when the road goes down so does the bike. With max elevation up to 40%. So not only just steering simulator like we've seen on eurobike 2019, we can also go uphill and have epic descent with epic cornering like real. Like riding a rodeo

  16. I would like to see better integrated lighting Systems including rearbrakelight and turn indicators as well. And it would be so nice if you could change the bike colour to any colour and colourscheme you like…app controlled of course

  17. Oh for Lords sake – give it a bloody rest with the ridiculous level of pedantry with the bike vault. How about actually rating the bike sometimes ?

  18. More / better Di2 Integration – lights, tire pressure. LED lights OEM built into frames, that run off Di2 batteries. Universal tubeless tire standards.

  19. In regards to your ideas for bike disc brake rotors, try carbon-carbon. It is already used for commercial aircraft disc brake rotors.

  20. Let’s see. This is GCN, so their answer to these questions is “Aero”.

    These guys have a hard-on for “aero”. They can’t make a video without referencing it. Not one.

  21. Gotta say, lets dance is a fantastic shout for Bowie albums but Young Americans edges it.

    When it comes to future tech I wouldn’t mind a computer and display built into the handlebars would work nicely on a one piece bar and stem.

  22. John – look at an Ergon cleat guide – you can use them to set new cleats in the same place as old ones pretty easily. And everlasting cleats exist – they are called SPDs 🙂 I use them on all my bikes – if you are worried about not looking roadie enough, then fit some A600 pedals.

  23. Yeah, consumerism. Cycling’s not as green as it likes to think. All those throw away items (gels, co2 etc), flights for sunny winter riding, seasonal tech and clothing “upgrades”, chemicals used in production of technical fabrics etc. The Outdoor sports industry is starting to wake up to the environmental impact of their business with companies like Patagonia actively encouraging repair and reuse of kit. In the future, I’d like to see the cycling industry doing more about this, rather than just patting itself on the back because some people commute by bike instead of car.

  24. Recently bought an ebike, option available, belt driven hub gear. Did research, plus side of this option, low maintenance, down side, hub gear less efficient, belt less efficient cost extra £200+, weight of hub 1.7kg. Bought normal 10 speed, I dont mind a bit of maintenance

  25. Carbon-ceramic disc rotors, same as the ones that are used in high end cars. Heat dissipates much quicker, stopping power is increased, modulation is much better

  26. I'm somewhat of a luddite. I would like retro-future tech. Beautiful modern steel frames, rim brakes, with modern gearing. "Normal" bars and stems. Aero? meh.

  27. Bike part manufacturers need you to wear things out to sell more parts….so durability or hard wearing isn't in their interest is it?

  28. Greater durability? It doesn't conform to the needs of the business to have you keep buying their stuff :-p (although I'd like that too – insert some quip on planned obsolescence and planned maintenance expenses…)

  29. How about test saddles that you can fine tune adjust width and hardness (via a worm shaft) Then match it with the nearest shop saddles to purchase. Much more efficient than swapping out a bunch of different test saddles

  30. Improvement? – Tube mat'l supple like latex yet leak-proof like heavy duty rubber.
    (Not fond of all the faffing about with Tubeless)

  31. I would like to see cycling clothing made of photovoltaic material so I could charge my electronics with my clothes while riding. Thank you.

  32. On the topic of clear frames, we have fiberglass instead of carbon fiber. Fiberglass items can be made pretty transparent but not perfectly clear. The thing with fiberglass is that it is much less rigid than carbon fiber.

    Maybe we could have some sort of carbon fiber lattice reinforced fiberglass bike where the bulk majority of the bike is fiberglass and the bits that need the most structural reinforcement are made of carbon. It would be heavier than a pure carbon bike though and it wouldn't be perfectly clear either… I think it's worth it for the top 90's aesthetic.

  33. Unfortunately built-in obsolesces is a part of business. How else do you sell more product. I'd love to see a way to make graphene disc brakes. it's much lighter and stronger that steel. Who knows!

  34. We have everlasting bearings, they just cost way too much; the ceramic bearings, not the cheaper ones used on bikes today, but those used in aerospace.

  35. I have everlasting cleats. They're called SPD. As for a self-cleaning solution. My 2013 Fuji SST 2.0 LE could really use that. It's a beautiful white frame but it get's so dirty after EVERY ride. In fact, it's already dirty when I ride the 5 miles to arrive at my group ride start.

  36. 23:00 Caloi, a brazilian bike manufacturer, the biggest on last century find its way to bankrupcy after sponsoring the Motorola team, and ordering with Eddy Mercks some Caloi by Eddy Mercks bikes, and don´t have its name told… Now Caloi is Cannondale brand for Brazil.

  37. That Merckx deserved a super nice despite the chain/gear issues. It's a beauty! The Bowie/Michael mural deserved a super nice but the Pinarello had reflectors on the wheels! IMO, not super nice!

  38. 12 speed cassettes that have a 36 or 42 as the big gear, not a 50 or 33. Or 11 speed cassettes that are a 10-28 or 10-32.

    A sleek looking road dropper post with a sleek operation. Something like the bmc bike with a built in dropper. Of course it has to be light as well.

  39. Nice show guys. When you talked about the 1996 narrow bike by GT, it reminded me of a bike that was being ridden at certain events a few years before that in the US. I think it was called a Hooker. It had very narrow hubs, and was very light. Everything about it was designed – not just a frame with standard Campy or Shimano parts. There were only a few of them around, and from what I knew, the company would let professional TT riders and triathletes use them in certain events to improve the company's visibility. I'd love to know more if you ever felt like researching that. I enjoy your channel! https://www.bikehugger.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/19575125_10154537813001496_6881485766416542366_o.jpg

  40. Can we also start using the bell for those “awkward” and “super awkward” moments between Jon and Ollie??? 😉

  41. I’d love if dynamos were made a lot lighter, and had better cable routing so they could power frame-integrated bike lighting and a cycle computer.

  42. Not everlasting but BV cleats make alignment of replacement cleats a doddle https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I2AT50K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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