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Rotted Decorative Wheel Needs Rebuilt  | Engels Coach Shop

Rotted Decorative Wheel Needs Rebuilt | Engels Coach Shop

Welcome back.
This week’s wheel that I need to fix isn’t anything really new that you
haven’t watched me do before so I’m going to go through the process of
fixing this wheel and I’m going to speed it up and you’ll recognize a lot of the
procedures and the processes of it because you’ve seen me do it before. But
what I’m going to do a little different this week is when I’m done I’m going to
go back through and talk about a few things that stand out to me behind the
scenes so to speak, behind the wheel. Some things that I look for and take into
account, not only for the customer but for the sake of the wheel. So let’s go
through and get this fixed then we’ll come back and talk a little
more in depth about what’s behind the scenes. So now we’ve got this wheel fixed I want
to back up a little bit and kind of walk you through some of the process of what
I go through in my mind when I am approached to fix a buggy, a wheel, a
wagon, or stagecoach, whatever it is. Well, this particular email came with a
request, can I fix the wheel? Well this wheel you can see has been in a state of
disrepair for some time. You see the two by four that’s propped up between the
tire and the wheel? Well this isn’t a wreck, this is a rot issue from being out
in the weather for a lot of years. Well, this is just being used as a backdrop
for pictures, so right off the bat I’m beginning to understand that this wheel
does not belong to an antique old original wagon, but this is a functional
wagon at the most. And it is not something that has happened overnight.
This amount of decay has happened over long period of time,
so I’m also beginning to get the hunch that this isn’t a high investment
project either. It’s a backdrop for pictures. Enough said.
So I realized this week’s video is a So I realize this week’s video is a little shorter than normal, but it
brought up some issues that I just thought I would like to address, that not
everything is ideal. We have wheels, like this, that are functional. They really
aren’t all that fashionable, but they serve the purpose, both for the wagon, and
its intended purpose, and for the purpose of the customer itself. So sometimes we
have to kind of make do, kind of, so to speak. We had a hub that was less than ideal. It wasn’t worth the money to change the hub. The boxing’s don’t fit, it’s not worth the money to make the boxing’s fit. This
is a static display. So I hope that was worth the video of itself. I know
sometimes you think, well I’d have done things different, but in this case this
is what really needed to be done. Next week we have a wheel that that came in
that also had some problems. They went through a wreck, and it had some issues in the hub also. A little different thing the shows up that I also want to address and we’ll
get into that next week So til then, thanks for watching you

100 comments on “Rotted Decorative Wheel Needs Rebuilt | Engels Coach Shop

  1. Hello Sir
    I love your work
    Another wheel safe again
    Thanks for sharing your work with us
    It is everytime interesting and reminds me to my grandfather
    Thank you
    Yours Frank

  2. I've always wondered about the amount of expansion of the steel wheel when it's heated. Steel expands 6 parts per million per degree Fahrenheit. I'm going to make a wild guess that the temperature rise is 500 Degrees. It's actually probably less. And I'm going to say the radius of the wheel is 18 in. So we multiply these and get
    500 x 18 x 6/1,000,000 = 0.054 in,
    or about 1/20th inch gap all around.
    Does that seem right?

  3. Yes your right it wasn't a working working unit and I would of done it a different way if it was too. But in the future someone is gonna buy the unit and want it fixed and you got it at least rolling if they have to move the unit to a different site safely.

  4. What is the name of the music in the first part of your video. You have also used it on at least one more video. If it wasn't for the interesting video, I would have gone to sleep.

  5. Restoration can be either functional or just cosmetic and most times it's the latter since that is all those who bring a repair in requested since they will collect more dust than road wear. Except for remaking the wooden hub this repair was about as close to being road worthy as it gets and in all likelihood the other three are about in bad a shape as this was but haven't fallen apart quite yet…

  6. I am always amazed by your patience and the precision of your work. The job always seem perfect. Have you ever missed your shot?

  7. You're the expert.What ever you decide to do is going to be correct…But ya psyched me out with he hex head bolts on the hub at first, and then you replaced them. Great work and great video. Thanks.

  8. Great video! I don’t think you have to worry about repeating same repair work that you do. I watch channels all the time that I do a lot of the same things and I still enjoy them. If you want to fix wheels all day long that’s OK with me. Like your channel

  9. Watching you true up felloes is exactly the same as watching Adam Booth indicate a piece on the lathe. And just as satisfying when it all comes together perfectly.

  10. Really enjoy your videos, In future would it be possible to put a time stamp near the end of the video showing how many actual hour has been spent on a job?

  11. Thanks for the video, Dave! Because this was "just another wheel," I could anticipate what step came next, and even recognized when you omitted a step here and there. Goodness sakes, I'm becoming a wheelwright!

  12. It's hard to tell from video, but do you take the "dish" of the wheel into account when you turn the dowel ends of the spokes?

  13. Did you think that the wood painted with Rustoleum? In the past, I've found that Rustoleum tends to hold moisture in the wood and accelerate rot.

  14. It dosen't matter how many time the process for the project is repeated,still is very joyble to see this gentlemen working his magic every single time,amazing..!

  15. There's a big difference between a wheel that can support a full load for the next 50 – 75 years and one that just needs to look good. I worked in the foundry industry much of my life and pointed out that pouring a casting that looked like it should was just the first step, much less expensive, than making one that met all the material properties. Either way, I'm sure your customer was happy and paid for your time and effort. Well done!

  16. Dave you going to have to give us one solid hour next week to make up for this one. Enjoyed it just wish it was longer. Great job!

  17. Sir, over your many videos you have resolved a question I have had for most of my 70+yrs. I love mechanics and applied physics in it’s basic form, I initially understood the structural qualities involved in a wooden cart wheel in a vertical plane. On a loaded cart it clearly would carry great loads. My question used to be: When a loaded cart turned sharply or transversed a track with a fall away to one side,ie the cart moving whilst tipped to either side, how could a wheel remain intake with a sometimes huge sideways loading wherein spokes were now longer vertical? Your videos have clarified that question for me.
    I am convinced from the skills of original Wheelwrights-and Cartwrights these were extremely talented men. Recalling that our laws and principles in science and mathematics are based on men from 1,000’s of years ago
    mankind has devolved rather than evolved. We evolved methods from gathered experience but now we merely build on past greatness. Everything I observe points to a Great Architect. Just sayin….

  18. I used to build stage props for plays. They always wanted the "real thing" and they want it in a week. I found you can make an English Long Bow out of a fir 2×4, you just can't fire anything with it. Looks great! Can't be used as a bow. They had the scene of 15 people facing off on stage and they all looked real. Like this one, job well done. Job done right.

  19. Sometimes doing repairs is about how cheap can it be done as appose to how well it can be fixed. There is always a reason why we fix things the way we do in all trade's.

  20. owners of wheel doesnt believe in grease either! One thing I have noticed is that people think ordinary paint, that is not oil based, is perfect for painting wood. Problem with painting wood is that it seals in any moisture and over time causes rot. Soaking wood with linseed oil prior to painting with an oil based paint solves this problem …but most people dont know that.

  21. Great video. We have a wheel very similar in design as the one you just repaired and it lives at our house leaning against a fence surrounded by roses. And like this one there is a problem with rot, actually one of the fellows that was setting in the mud when we bought it from an antique dealer. Based on seeing your videos this old woodworker is going to try to repair that wheel before it gets as bad as this one. Thanks for being a good teacher.

  22. "This is what needed to be done"… and that's ALL that needed to be done. It takes a real craftsman, and an honest man, to know the difference.

  23. First, I really enjoy your videos, you are a master Craftsman. I am a cooper, a good portion of what I do is decorative only. I fully understand " Good enough ", but, I imagine you are looking over my shoulder, just because it doesn't have to be liquid tight, that is no excuse for an inferior product. Everything you do is masterfully done, thank you, Ralph the Cooper.

  24. Dave you did a great job with what they gave you to work with. You made a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Great job and I am looking forward to next weeks video.

  25. Your philosophy surrounding this wheel — I'd already noticed that you make everything as perfect as it needs to be, but don't waste effort chasing needless perfection. This was a really good example of that.

  26. Prezado Sr. Engels, eu moro no Brasil, isso mesmo, não é Brazil, e tenho acompanhado com curiosidade os seus vídeos, e, sei que o Sr. deve ser da geração dos anos de 1950, e para ter adquirido tanto conhecimento que faz tantos ao redor do mundo ficarem extasiados a xada novo vídeo. Desculpe a minha curiodidade e ignorância, o Senhor tem preparado algum sucessor, alguém que possa passar tudo aquilo que o Senhor adquiriu ao longo da sua existência?
    Eu nasci em 1954, hoje tenho 65 anos e procuro a cada momento passar a meus netos tudo o que aprendi, mas o celular tem levado muito mais vantagem. Um grande abraço.

  27. Thanks Dave for going in depth with the customer and what was really needed to serve the purpose of the wheel and wagon. You definitely did a super job of bringing the wheel back into good use. Excellent job 👍👍. Thanks for sharing with us.

  28. I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I am always impressed by the thought that went into the design and construction of the vehicles you work on. Your craftsmanship and understanding of purpose are absolutely fabulous. Please continue to show us as many of the facets of the trade as you can. Thanks again!

  29. I never think that I'd do things differently. You are the Master Wheelwright and I trust your judgement completely. I appreciated this video as always. Peace, Love and Happiness to you and your family.

  30. Ah yes, the economics come into play… nevertheless a good outcome. Thanks for sharing Dave. Always enjoying your videos.

  31. That solid sound when you set the wheel on the ground for the first time after putting the metal tire on seems satisfying. That seems like a sound you'd never get tired of hearing. (no pun intended).

  32. That wheel was so ugly, I wouldn't let my nephew date her.
    But you shined her up and put some starch in her skirts.
    Ya done good, Dave.

  33. I like it at the end… When you tell what's coming up next time… it gives me something to look forward to… I can't wait! 💜🌞🌵

  34. Thank you for another fascinating video of you at work, I wonder how many of the skills you have can trace themselves back to Europe and Britain. Are there many differences in tools , terminology or methods used in American wainwright or wheelwright work? Thanks again please keep giving pleasure to many!

  35. I'm reassured by the fact that I'm not the only one who spends twenty minutes using my Leatherman at a task for which a better tool is sitting in its drawer across the shop, but the Leatherman is closer. 😂

  36. Hi Dave, thanks for the video, your explanation at the end told us all we needed to know, I totally understand why you repaired it the way you did, it will probably outlast the rest of the rig, lol, always a pleasure to whatch you at work , whatever the job, Best wishes to you and your's,

  37. Where do you get the blanks for spokes? Do you make them in mass when you're waiting on something to dry or do you go to and buy them?
    I enjoy your videos and really admire your craftsmanship, whether mending wheels or cobbling shoes.

  38. As a side gig I also build and fix stuff for people who bring me things as bad off as that wheel. Or I may find something cool in the trash or junkpile. The tinkerer in me says "We have the technology. We can rebuild it!" Then I run it by the owner who usually grimaces at what it might cost. It really irks me sometimes when I can't make the world run and look like a Rolex, but your video reminds me I am not working for the project I am working for the customer. Thanks Dave your videos make my Fridays even better.

  39. In addition to your many Skills, you are also a Statesman. Too good to be wasted on Politics though. I would be VERY wary of having sparks go into the sawdust stream. Not all sparks are 'cold'.

  40. I've got a very decent Studebaker complete chuck wagon right down to the grease bucket and original cookware. I can hardly believe it myself but I've been asked if I'd be interested in selling the wheels to be used as garden ornaments…

  41. I have a really hard time with projects like that (albeit in a completely different field). I want to do more and just don't feel right putting something back together that is less than "right". It's a weakness, in a way, not being able to do what is truly needed, both for the final result (intended use) and the customer's pocketbook.

  42. Your a conservator and a business, your the equivalent to a master car restorer so to speak there is no bad it’s all good some jobs are just not as good as others.

  43. Speeded up or not, there’s something therapeutic about watching you create your magic. And it’s a special kind of magic too!

  44. In doing support on IT equipments I was some of the same "problems". Should I fix it, fix it like I think it should be fixed, replace with new or just discard it. In the end it will depend on what the system/software is needed for, how reliable it must be and what cost different options will carry. 🙂

  45. This never gets old to watch , actually therapeutic in many ways , and some business side thrown in to boot , giving a quality job and workmanship as well as a honest response to the customer is a rarity these days . These qualities are what keeps clientele coming back and sending new customers back time in and time out , great job once again and once again thanks for sharing !

  46. I like this format where you do a routine job, then teach us what your thinking is at the end. Thanks for your effort and time in this.

  47. My grandfather had a business tile your house or your farm feilds anyway he told me he always had the same craftsmanship for a budget job as a high end home the materials were just lesser quality or used what they had

  48. I suspect that few viewers register what i will call the "sentiment" you carry and bring to the object that comes in for repair or refurbishing. It is a rare thing to see, and should be lauded . . . so it do. Thank you for it. Thank you for being you.

  49. thank you for the explanation at the end because while watching questioned why you did not replace the inner bush as it seems this wheel once must have seized from lack of grease? please keep making youtube videos as the coach building trade never dies in what you do how ever many time you do a wheel or buggies. keep making the videos please. thank you for the good commentary.

  50. Great assessment of the level of detail and time required. I do enjoy watching these videos. They are a little different than the world I live in. My mind goes immediately to the fixtures that you could have to make your life easy.

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