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Should Cyclists Be Banned From Dangerous Roads? | The GCN Show Ep. 284

– From Kanagawa, Japan,
welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show, brought to you by our friends at Wiggle. – This week we’re talking about whether bikes should be banned from certain roads. Should we in fact ban ourselves? – There is karma, the Si, and we’re also talking about the real future of bike racing, folding bikes, penny farthings, long distances. – Yeah, and also two new ways to become a pro cyclist, neither of which involve being fast. – We’re in. – Yeah, we actually might
do all right this time. (instrumental music) This week in the world of cycling, we learned that wearing
glasses when you ride is probably a good idea. This is pro cyclist Danilo Celano. Any idea what body part? – [Dan] The, oh yeah, his eye. – [Si] It’s his eye. – It is his eye. It does look
tight, though, doesn’t it? My goodness. This week we also learned that even bicycles have feelings. This is one of the yellow
hire bikes in Bristol, that Si was so rude about this time last week. – [Si] You’re not much
of a looker yourself Si. – Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Thanks wheels of karma
for sending that in. – Yeah, that looks like
one of the few bikes that hasn’t been thrown
into the river first, so that’s great. We also learned this week that the world hour record is still safe, not just Bradly Wiggins of course, but also William A. Rowe’s 132 year old penny farthing hour record. – Mark Beaumont missed the record by just 250 meters, excruciating. But he did set a new British record, so the pain, and there was quite a lot of pain, I think, wasn’t completely wasted. Anyway, full video on that coming up this coming Sunday, and that includes Si’s miserable attempt. (piano music) – Whoa! So how fast have we gotta
go? Is it 22 miles an hour? – [Trainer] Yeah, you’re doing about two miles an hour there. You’ve gotta do another… – [Si] Another 20. – [Trainer] Another 20… – [Si] Well that’ll be alright. – Amazing really to think that that record has stood since the late 19th century, back in the hay day of penny farthings, and at a time when you would imagine there wasn’t much in the way of conflict between open road users. Contrary to what many people would have you believe now, where we are apparently waging a war on a daily basis. One question which is often posed is whether cyclists should be banned from really busy, very fast roads. Or perhaps any roads that
are deemed dangerous. For our own good. – Yeah, and should we in fact ban ourselves from
potentially dangerous roads, for our own sake, and also to try and reduce conflict with other road users? – I can hear people typing comments furiously now. We do realize this could get more intense than a G7 summit, but let’s look into this a bit more before we go nuclear. We cyclists are already banned from certain roads, so motorways here being an example, or autoroutes in Europe, and highways over in America. But what about removing
existing permissions to ride on a road. – Well yeah, ’cause that is exactly what was proposed in the UK here earlier in the year, on the A63. Now, you can be forgiven for not knowing what the A63 is, so let me fill you in. It is a dual carriageway, so that’s where there’s two lanes going in each direction, and it is a busy, fast road, but bikes are allowed to go on there. However, the ban, proposed ban, has got cyclists in an absolute outcry, partly due to the fact that it’s one of the
fastest time trial courses in the country, due in no small part to the fact that there
are cars going past you at 70 miles an hour, and that gives you
quite a drafting effect. – That is not a small
part of your speed, is it? – No, no, not at all. – I think there’s two issues here. There is the being allowed
to ride on the road versus wanting to ride on a road, because I for one would choose not to ride on the A63, because it would frighten me out of my I don’t know what. – [Si] Yeah, I’d be exactly the same. – [Dan] Yeah. – [Si] Not for me. – Although I do also understand why certain cyclists
would be quite worried about the prospect of a ban on this road, because the precedent it might set. Because statistically there’s gonna be a whole host more roads that are more dangerous than the A63, and if cyclers are banned on those, will it have devastating consequences? – Well yeah, like most cities, you’d of thought. – [Dan] Yeah. – For me the perception of risk comes from the speed discrepancy, so when a bike is traveling
at 20 miles an hour, and a car is traveling
at 70 miles an hour, you can see why there is the feeling that maybe bikes aren’t safe there, even if the statistics don’t actually back it up. In this particular case, there were just six bike accidents in five years, where in the same period of time, there were 300 involving cars, so no empirical evidence
to back it up, then, just the kind of feeling
that it’s not safe. We shouldn’t be there. – Hmm. Well from the Highway
Agency’s perspective, and they say too, from
the police perspective, and local authorities, there is another alternative road which is much quieter and therefore perhaps slightly safer. I’d imagine that out of choice
if you knew it was there, that would be the one that you would use on your bike. – Yeah, well, I certainly would I guess. I don’t like the idea of a legal ban, but I do wonder whether there’s some kind of educational issue here, in that I see all the time on my local roads cyclists putting up with really crap busy roads, presumably because they don’t know that there are other, nicer alternatives to ride on, so maybe actually it’s as simple as just
having some sign posts, friendly ones, you know, like
hey, cyclists, did you know there’s a nice alternative that’s just 500 meters longer, and actually pleasant? – Well I’ve got a really good example of this, actually. – Yeah? – Many years ago I was
asked to go out riding with a junior team who were staying down in Bournemouth, which is where I lived at the time. – Did you smash them? – Oh I was about to,
Si, and this happened. – Oh no.
– Basically we got to a place called Ringwood, and
it soon occurred to me that we were heading towards the A338, don’t know if you know it. – Yeah, yeah, it’s one of my favorites. – Yeah, is it? – Not to ride on, but to drive. – Yeah, yeah, well it
is a dual carriageway on which you can drive
at 70 miles per hour, so you can really get going, Si. – [Si] Oh yeah.
– But not the sort of road that I wanted to ride on, so I went back to their team car that I was following and said, are you going down a dual
carriageway back to Bournemouth? And he said, “Yes, we’ve
done that every year,” and I said, “Well, there is an alternative “quieter road that runs parallel halfway, “goes over it, “and runs parallel the other side of it “for the rest of the way,” and he said, “Nope, we’re
gonna do “the same as ever,” so I said, “Well I’m not,”
and I went back the other way and back into Bournemouth
on the quieter road. They, I heard afterwards, were actually given a
police escort eventually. I’m not sure if they felt it was the team of cyclists
that were going to be dangerous riding on the road, or the
fact that the car behind them was going at 20 miles per hour, ’cause there’s no hard shoulder, and with other cars going past at 70. – Yeah, you could see where that would get expensive, for the police to give every cyclist a police escort, but
probably quite nice for them actually at the time. Can you imagine, you
probably made their day riding with Dan Lloyd and then getting a police escort for the finale
of their ride. Sounds great. Right, now, anyway, so that’s one question laid out of the way. What about the fact of whether or not by separating bikes and cars in this instance, you’re actually gonna ease tension? And I suppose the theory’s pretty sound, isn’t it? We cyclists like segregated bike lanes, because they’re nicer to ride on, and they’re probably safer, statistically I think they are. So would it not be logical then to extend that same theory up to roads, where they’re designed to carry cars at 70 miles
an hour, for example, like motorways, and just say well actually maybe it’s sensible for bikes to have segregated parts, and cars to be segregated on other things as well. – Possibly, and you would hope it would ease tensions between cyclists and other road users, but it might not, because I sort of think that if a car driver sees red every time he sees a cyclist, gets irate, really angry, it probably doesn’t matter what size the road is, or even perhaps if it’s a road at all. – No, trail rage. That’s really bad (mumbles). – Oh yeah, trail rage. – Yeah. – Yeah. Anyway, it’s about time that we got you lot involved, because we know you’re going to be ever so
passionate on this subject. Again, should we be banning ourselves from certain roads that we deem to be dangerous? Or not? Let us know in the comments below. – Yeah, and let’s actually, after we’ve commented,
end it on a positive note, because it’s not just bikes being banned from things. Oh no, cars, in Mallorca. – Yes, how do you make an incredible cycling road even more incredible? Not by banning bikes, of course, but by banning cars. – Yeah, you know that’s what they’re saying about the A63, just outside Hull. – Yeah, yeah, that could be stunning, couldn’t it? No, we’re
talking about Cap de Formentor over in Mallorca, which no doubt you’ll have seen featured here on GCN in the past, a stunning road to ride on. It’s a dead end. It heads
out to a light house, where you can see a cafe and get your obligatory coffee and big cream cake, again with stunning views across the sea, and then back to Mallorca. It’s amazing. – Yeah, that’s it. And if you don’t fancy the bike ride out there, then you can either have
a 17 kilometer walk, in each direction, or you
just catch one of the buses that the authorities are now laying on, apparently, so you can
get yourself out there. – Hmm, and apparently
they’re also considering extending this scheme
beyond Cap de Formentor And to other climbs such as Sa Calobra which is equally if not more stunning than Cap de Formentor,
although I’m willing to make a bet that if you banned cars from these roads, you
might get an increase in cycling accidents, with nutters trying to set the KON down a descent. – Yeah, and Sa Calobra, what a descent it is. But my word, there’s a penalty for getting (mumbles) isn’t it? So yeah, just be careful if they do ban cars. Now anyway, there is another example actually in Montreal. A really, really positive example, following the tragic death of a cyclist on their famous Mount Royal climb that’s in the city, because actually the city then, rather than putting the blame on cyclists, banned cars from this climb, and that’s a pilot scheme, apparently they launched
spring of this year. And is extending all the
way through the summer. – Wouldn’t it be awful
if authorities banned cars from certain roads, and we cyclists ended up
having so many crashes they decided it was safer to
have cars in the first place? – Yeah, just take care out there. (instrumental music) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – Bromptons are an almost iconic folding bike, beloved amongst commuters, but increasingly amongst bike racers too. Now over the weekend, one of the most lucrative races in the UK took place, called the Chapter Three Elimination Invitational, to which neither of us received an invite, surprisingly. Regardless, the competitors there had to compete on the amazing Chapter Three Edition Brompton bicycles. – Yeah, I do love the Chapter Three style, but those Bromptons are
proper nice, aren’t they? Anyway, Brompton racing in a nutshell. The (mumbles) starts where you
then have to build your bike, or unfold it. I’m not sure quite what the
correct terminology is there, before hitting the track, and in this case, the last rider each lap then gets eliminated. Now the first place rider, the rider taking home the
equivalent prize money to seventh place in the forthcoming Tour de France, which is a particularly good start, I think, was Alec Briggs, who is a rider that normally races for the Specialized Rocket Espresso Fixed Gear Team. – Hmm, trendy and fast. He’s got it all going on, doesn’t he? – Yeah, two things that
have never been said about us, mate. – No, perhaps why we didn’t get an invite, but yeah, 10,048 pounds for that win. – [Si] Yeah, not bad eh? – Well I’m gonna start training for that, as I suggested on the Racing News Show. Right, from very modern racing to something far more traditional, so traditional in fact, well its pharmaceuticals. Because WADA have just released the results of a study
into gray area substances, i.e. those that you are allowed to take as an athlete, but are slightly frowned upon. – Yeah, so the first one is the powerful pain killer Tramadol, and their study shows that it is still being used
in professional cycling, which is perhaps no surprise given that it’s still legal. But anyway, the interesting bit was that Tramadol shows up in 4.4% of anti-doping controls. – At the same time, while they’re also tracking the use amongst athletes of glucocorticoids, and what they’ve found is that in an out-of-competition test, 4.4% of athletes were found with them. – 4.4%? – Yes.
– The same 4.4%, you reckon? They’re dabbling in Tramadol and glucocorticoids? – Possibly, I don’t know. – Yeah, well why not. If you’re gonna do one thing,
you might as well do it all. I do have a bit of a problem with this whole kind of gray area thing. It seems to me that if a rider behaves unethically, but isn’t breaking the rules, the fault really should lie with the rules not
keeping pace with ethics, rather than the rider themselves. It doesn’t seem right. – I know what you’re saying, but I guess it’s like a really narrow road that sort of national speed limit here in UK, which is 60 miles per hour, you’d be a fool, and
you’d be very dangerous to drive down at 60 miles per hour, so I guess then the choice is up to you. – Yeah, but you can’t expect to be busted for speeding, going
at 55 miles per hour. But you’re being an idiot. – Anyway, more science now, and this one I was
particularly interested, Si, on your behalf effectively. This is the prediction of the onset of sweat during cycling. Interesting they haven’t done it on you whilst you’re presenting there. – No, all right, fair enough. Anyway, we saw this from Cycling Science, over on Twitter. And it is actually really interesting. The research showed
that exercise intensity has far more of an effect on sweating than climatic conditions. And the researchers then went on to say that ebikes should therefore be considered the future of cycling for transport, because you don’t need
to break into a sweat. If you ride an ebike. – I quickly realized whilst reading this, where you’ve been going wrong, because they had the participants first be cycling at 75 watts, and then at 25 watts. And I would imagine
that you were doing more than 25 watts during certain segments of the show. – Presenting, you mean? Yeah, you’re probably right, actually. Yeah. Anyway, it seems that the world has gone ultra endurance
crazy at the moment. We’ve got events all over the place. We’ve got the Race across America, we got the Tour de Vine, we
got the race around Ireland, but there was a particularly notable ultra endurance performance right here in the UK last week as well. – There was, that being
the Lejogle record. That’s not French, is it? It’s English and Scottish. – Yeah. Lejogle. – This is Lands End to John O’Graots, which is effectively end to end here in the UK, and that record has fallen 17 years after a certain Gethin Butler set what many saw as an unbeatable record. – Yeah, Michael Broadwith, a maths teacher overcame terrible weather,
surprise, surprise, and acute neck pain to smash the record by 40 minutes. He covered the 840 miles
in 43 hours, 25 minutes, and 13 seconds. – Which is an average speed including his stops for food and rest of 20 miles per hour,
32 kilometers per hour, which is staggering. – Isn’t it just? Now he does apparently
have an FTP of 400 watts, which kind of goes some way to explaining how he can ride that fast for that long, but I suspect there must be some other kind of physiological freakishness about him, or maybe mental strength, I don’t know, but bonkers isn’t it? – Boy you’d imagine so. That’s not normal, is it? Why I particularly like that, though, was the fact that the
previous record holder, who he beat, Gethin Butler, actually came out to
support the record attempt when he got up to Lancaster. Pretty nice touch. – Yeah, yeah, nice touch. I wouldn’t do that. I
wouldn’t do it for (mumbles) a world record. – No, no way. I’d been going there
to try and put him off. Probably got one of those police stingers to try and make him puncture (mumbles). – Ah, see I’d have tried to deal a psychological blow,
like maybe something like, oh, Michael, you’re looking a bit tired. ‘Cause then that, yeah, that’d just be eroding away his brain for the next 12, 13 hours. – Well, what I’d have done after he punctured through my stinger, was thrown him a tube, which was already punctured. – Nice one.
– Really get in his head. There’s no way you’re taking my record. – No way, mate, no. You’d have got him right there, in the roadside, wouldn’t you? ‘Cause you could have just kept going, couldn’t you? There’s another one. It’s
got a puncture in it as well. – Rough. – Anyway, one place where cycling and cyclers are considered national pride and importance is of course the Netherlands, and as if things weren’t already pretty blooming good for cyclists over there, it looks like they might be about to get even better. It’s just been announced a new 100 million euro investment in cycling in the Netherlands. 74 million of that is going to be pigeon holed just for bike parking. Incredible stat in itself, which makes you realize how many bikes they’ve already got over there, and then the other 26 million euros, that is going to be spent on even more bicycle routes. – Wow, put your hands
up if you’re jealous. We would, but obviously, given that previous segment, we’re kind of a bit embarrassed too. But anyway, apparently the money’s been set aside to try and lure 200,000 commuters out of their cars and onto their bikes. – What I really like the sound of, though, was the further incentive that they might be bringing in. They’re talking to employees about this at the moment, whereby you could get 19 cents per kilometer
if you ditch your car, and instead choose to ride a bike to work. – That is amazing. I would consider moving
further away from work, in order to spend longer on my bike, and therefore get more money. I could pay for a really extravagant lunch every day, just from my commute. That’d be amazing. – Hmm, or you could save it. – Or eat loads of really nice food. – Regardless, we could potentially be earning more money per kilometer doing that then we used
to as pro cyclists, couldn’t we? – I think almost
undoubtedly, I would, yeah. – And we could increase our salary even further if we choose to ride this, the Toba bike. – [Si] Whoa! – [Dan] Because this produces
crypto currency as you ride. – Yes, now we’re talking. So this is electric bike
retailer, 50 Cycles, and to celebrate their 15th anniversary, they have released the Toba, okay? So if you ride for a thousand miles, on this bike, it will generate 24 pounds. Yeah? And it can either be
redeemed for, I don’t know, actual goods at certain retailers, or you cash it in for
something like Bitcoin. – Wow, I’m in. – Yeah? – Definitely. Right, talking about
incentivizing commuting, we should finish Cycling Shorts this week with the Red Bull Million Mile Commute. Last year, they smashed their target, thanks to your help, so 8,300 people took part in total, and 2,400 miles of those million miles is done by one person, Mon Sun Lee did it in a month. – Wow! Wait a minute, that’s like 456 euros in the Netherlands. – Yeah, or 48 pounds of crypto currency. – Wow, I think I can almost say you missed out there. But anyway, nevertheless, Red Bull this time, their target is to do all those million miles in just the month of July, so if you wanna take part,
and I suggest you do, you can log in on Strava, and there’s a link to
their particular page in the description beneath this video, and there’s also gonna be a load of extra incentives as well, so for example, if you look on account of Red Bull,
or Red Bull Sugar Free, apparently there’s a way of redeeming a month of free Strava Premium. – Hmm, sounds good. – Quite cool now. (instrumental music) It’s the GCN Wiggle of Fortune now. One lucky contestant is in within a shout of winning up to 150 pounds of Wiggle vouchers. – Yeah, that’s prize one. Which are the four red ones here, and it goes down to prize four, which are 25 pounds of Wiggle vouchers, which you can spend on absolutely anything on their online shop. With loads of entrants to be contestants this week, only one contestant though, and that person is Jens Craeymeersch. Good luck to you, Jens. – Yeah, good luck. Now before we get going, let’s also just clarify. There is one other icon on the GCN Wheel of Fortune, the beer icon. That’s right. Jens, if it lands on that, you do not win anything. – But I do. – Dan wins a beer.
– Let’s crack on with this. In three, in two, in one, (buzzer music) and we are off. – You’re getting a bit
thirsty, aren’t you, Dan? ‘Cause it’s been a while. – It is, yeah.
– In fact, you’ve never won on the Wiggle of Fortune. – I’ve been having to have mineral waters. – Oh, it’s looking good,
though. It’s looking good. It’s looking good, Dan. (both men cheer) Lord, he gets a beer. – Oh, I’ll have to limp
over to the fridge. – Yes, high fives. – I don’t believe that. How many weeks has that been? I’ve got a bad hip at the moment. – I don’t know. Ah, it’s
gonna be all better now. Dan’s won a beer. Ah, Jens, I’m so sorry. But hopefully you feel now like… – It’s a Belgian, it’s a Belgian beer. – Whoa, is Jens Belgian perhaps? There we go. – I’m so, I should feel really guilty now. Sorry Jens. – Jens, we’ll send you a GCN bottle in the post, man, I’m sorry, but that is… God, Dan, have you got a bottle opener? – I have. – There we go. – And I’m going to get
a glass. After this. (instrumental music) – Tech of the Week now, and first of all, there is apparently some kind of football tournament going on at the moment, and if you’re one of those few people that’s interested in it, but you still wanna keep riding your bike, and know about the football results, then COBI, which is a cycling start up, might have something for you. So they’ve designed an app for your phone that then you attach to your bike, using their phone holder, and front light contraption, and while you cycle it
will keep you updated of any goals scored or team changes, or anything like that. – Sound great. Super safe, though, isn’t it? – Oh yeah, super safe. – Now we’ve been doing quite a few videos on bike packing recently. – Indeed. – I haven’t, Si has, but
I’ve decided that this looks a little bit more up
my street, personally. It’s called the B Turtle. And what it is is a bike trailer, inflatable caravan, really. Which means that you can sleep in some comfort overnight. – [Si] Relative comfort. – [Dan] Well it’s got a storage capacity of 120 liters in that bad boy, which is ample room for a nice duvet or maybe just a sleeping bag or like a fleecy onesy. – Probably all three, mate, in there. You know what, I can actually see you with an inflatable caravan, being towed behind your ebike. Yeah, absolutely. There has been some
more conventional tech, actually released into the cycling world over the last week. Particularly notable super cool new aluminum cycler cross-cum-gravel bikes from Canyon and BMC. So the Canyon In Flight and the BMC Road Machine X, both of which actually are running Sram Apex 1x drivetrains as well. – Hmm, Canyon’s a bit
more of a gravel bike, isn’t it? And the BMC is slightly
more road pedigree, really? – Well, I think the Canyon In Flight is really more of a cross bike than a gravel bike. – Are we gonna have an argument? – Well, I don’t know. Your BMC’s more like a road bike slash gravel bike. – [Dan] Well regardless, they both look very versatile, don’t they? And more importantly, they look super fun to ride too.
– That is the point, isn’t it? Wherever they are on the spectrum, they look quite fun. (instrumental music) – It’s been another really busy week in the world of professional bike racing, much of which I’ve tried to cover on yesterday’s Racing News Show. But here on the GCN Show, let’s firstly talk about the OVO Energy Women’s Tour. There it was great to see Coryn Rivera take her first ever GC win, which I was surprised about. Not that she won, but that she’d never won a GC before. – Yeah, yeah that’s right. And also it was great to see Mariane Vos right back up there. She went on to finish second overall, and she finished outside the top three only once on all the stages. – Yeah, yeah. And that time she finished outside the top three it was the first stage, and even then, she was sixth. – That’s not bad. – Consistency personified, Mariane Vos, but she didn’t win any of the stages. And it did get me wondering whether she’s not quite the same force that she was to be reckoned with from a few years ago, or whether the standard in women’s racing is just very high, compared
to her dominant era. – That’s an interesting
one, actually, that, isn’t it? It’s probably a bit of both, but I suspect more the latter. I mean, it does seem particularly like the standard is just super duper high at the moment, and in fact one rider who wasn’t at the OVO Energy Women’s Tour was Anna van der Breggen, and she won’t even be going on to defend her Giro Rosa crown either. Because she’s gonna take part in a World Cup cross
country mountain bike race at Val di Sole, in Italy. – That’s right. Apparently, she’s got bored of winning big races on the road. – Oh, what?
– Enviable position to be in. She’s chosen that particular round of the mountain bike World Cup because apparently it’s
the least technical of all the cross country courses, but nevertheless, it’ll
be very interesting to see how she gets on there. Along with the OVO Energy Women’s Tour, there’s also been a whole host of warmup races for the Tour de France. Still big races in their own right. The Route d’Occitanie, which used to be the Route du Sud, over
to the Tour Slovenia, and of course the Tour de Suisse. They were won by Valverde Roglic and Richie Porte respectively. (instrumental music) Giveaway time now. No new ones for you this
week, unfortunately, but some big results to read out now, because this was the
Continental competition. Three prizes here. The first winner we are going to read out is of the Continental Le Cadet. This was for a rider, young rider, to be able to ride the first and last part of the first stage of the Tour de France. It doesn’t get much bigger than that, if you’re a young rider, or if you’re an old rider like us. – Yeah. – But we weren’t allowed to enter. – No. – Partly ’cause of age, partly ’cause of where we were. Nevertheless, the winner
of this competition is… (make drum roll sound on table) – Matthew Brooker. (cymbal sounds)
– Well done to you, Matthew. – Yeah, congratulations. Huge congratulations. I’m dead jealous. – I am as well. Yeah, I think that would have been a great prize for absolutely anybody of that age. Next up, the Continental Tour de France VIP package goes to (makes drum roll sound on table) Sebastian Cremer of Germany and the VVIP package, also from Continental, goes to Christ Martin over in the USA. So very well done to all of you, and we very much hope you all enjoy your experiences. I’m sure you will. – Yeah, gotta do a quick
shout out, actually, over on the tech channel. We have a pretty stupendous unboxing. Or rather the prize is stupendous. Not commenting on the
quality of the video, but anyway, we’re giving
away a huge package from Oakley, including helmet, glasses, and shorts and a jersey. It’s pretty cool. – Mighty fine and stupendous it is. (Si laughs) – Time now for Hack Forward Slash Bodge of the Week. I’m gonna start with something that’s potentially amazing, so amazing I can’t let you work out whether
it’s a fake or not, right? So have a look at this one, Dan. So this is from Joshua Pohlmann, on Twitter, and it effectively I think he’s built himself a wahoo kicker climb, okay, so that is a thing for your indoor trainer and you attach the front of the bike to, and depending on what
gradient you’re going up in Zwift of something, it will tip your bike to that angle, okay? And he reckons he’s got that automatically on there. He’s also got a fan that looks like it changes intensity depending on how fast you’re riding, and then there’s also a dragon on there as well, which is quite remarkable. So potentially, that’s
an amazing bit of kit. – [Dan] Well it does
look in the main photo, as though he’s going down a 45% gradient (mumbles). – [Si] Minus 18 I think he said is the steepest descent. – No, it’s gotta be
more than that. Surely. No, he’s descending off a cliff there. (Si laughs) Well if that
is not hashtag fake news, then that is definitely a hack. Otherwise, if he’s pulled the wool over our eyes, which he
might well have done, bodge. – Yeah, yeah. There we go. Potentially the greatest hack of all time, but probably a bodge. – Yeah, we need video,
not photos. Come on. – Yes please, next time. – Next week, we might be showcasing it. And next up, this from @shotenzenjin. Love this (laughs). The cycle booty fan. – [Si] Whoa! – [Dan] Refreshing your nether regions while waiting for traffic
lights, et cetera, so he’s got a sort of an aerated saddle. It doesn’t look particularly comfortable. And then one of those really cheap fans underneath. – [Si] Well that’s remarkable. I mean you’d need quite a powerful fan to get through your average kind of luxury shammy, wouldn’t you? But still yeah, any
little extra ventilation is probably gonna help, isn’t it? – [Dan] I just get out of
the saddle. Speed I’m going. Wind’s bristling through there. (Si laughs) – Moving swiftly on. This one, you know what Dan, I’m gonna say before we even look at it, this is a proper hack. This is sent in by @dionito on Twitter. Is this cheap enough? His homemade chain keeper. And you know what, I’m gonna say yes that is. That is absolutely ingenious hack, the first chain keeper I’m ever gonna endorse. – [Dan] Hmm, yeah, I
just snuck that back in, ’cause I actually took it out
before we started recording. He was surprised when he saw that there, weren’t you? – Yeah I was. – Next up… – Chain keepers. – From @dominikchlup,
huge apologies for that. – No, I’m sure you nailed that. – We don’t know whether
it can be considered as a hack or a bodge. That is a mighty big chain ring there, isn’t it? But maybe you need it
with those size wheels. – [Si] I think that’s a hack. Is that a folding bike? – [Dan] Well I’m gonna say a bodge. – [Si] Oh really. – [Dan] Yes. – Oh. Oh all right. (Dan laughs) Okay,
coming up, he’s got this from Lena Jaeger, and she has said, this is how you fix a bib
short, with a tube patch. Use two of them and glue
them together. Oh my word. – [Dan] Wow. – [Si] I would have never
even thought of that. But yeah, gluing fabric is like a thing, isn’t it? – [Dan] Yeah (mumbles). – [Si] I don’t know whether it would work, with an inner tube. I thought inner tube glue works by like sort of melting the rubber, like vulcanize it, don’t they? So anyway. Clearly it has worked. So it’s inspired.
– [Dan] Yeah, I have no answer to your vulcanizing rubber thing. I’ve got no idea, I’m
afraid, as with many things. – [Si] I just, I don’t know what I’m talking about. – Regardless, love seeing your hacks and bodges. If you would like to get involved in this, it’s very easy indeed. All you need to do is use the hashtag #gcnhack, shove it up on Twitter or send it to us as a message on Facebook, and if we like it, or if
we really don’t like it, it’ll probably be included
in next week’s show. – Yeah, and remember as well that if it’s such an amazing hack that we’re actually gonna
be slightly skeptical of whether it exists or not, a video will seal the deal. – Proof. – ‘Cause you can’t ever fake video, can you? (instrumental music) – It’s time now for Caption Competition. (mumbles) – Ah, the winner of Caption Competition gets a GCN Camelback water bottle. There we go. There is this week’s shining example of one. This is the photo that
we gave you last week, and we asked you to caption.
Dan, have we got a winner? – [Dan] We have, and the winner is Benedictiep. Who put caption, “I really like these new pawdium girls.” (ba-dum ching on drums) – PAW-DIUM. Get it? – Quite a lot of paw captions. But we chose that one as our favorite, so right… – I like what you did there.
Quite a lot of poor captions. (both men laugh)
– Didn’t even know I did that, but yeah, I’ll take that. Get in touch with us, Benedict, on Facebook, with a
message of your address, and we should get that out to you. What we got this week? – Oo, that looks like
a likely looking photo. Dan, can you hit us with a paw caption? – Stefan Kung. How about, oh, no, no the Kun-daily Mail. – There’s a large chunk of our audience might need some kind of explanation there. For that particular caption. Stefan Kung, and also the Daily Mail, which is a slightly
controversial newspaper. Here in the UK. – Yes. – But otherwise that’s a wicked caption. (Dan laughs) – Yeah, with those caveats, it was brilliant. Get involved
in the comments below, with your captions, and as we’ve said, we’ll pick our favorite
this time next week. (instrumental music) This
is the point in the show where we normally read out some of our favorite comments. This week, we’re reading out the following comments. Not necessarily our favorite. We had a lot of reaction to Chris Opie and James Lowsley-Williams joining as presenters last week. – Hi guys. Did you bring the (mumbles). – We did actually. – Yes. – Nice. – Good work. – Including this, after I
introduced them on Twitter. Ben Ward wrote back and said, “These chaps look like
#loveisland contestants!” That’s meant to be a compliment. Love Island, for those of you over in the US, or not in the UK, basically, is full of big hunks. (Si laughs) And their female equivalent. – Stupendous hunks. (Dan laughs) – Then, I said, what? And
Si and I don’t look like we could be Love Island contestants? And he wrote back, Ben Ward, and said, “Maybe the Undatables is more suited “to you guys.” So thanks for that, Ben. George Hugh, “Look at the guns “on Chris and James. “Not sure which is which, “but no matter. “Jars can finally be opened “and moderately heavy objects lifted “around GCN.” – That is a very good
point, there, isn’t it? I mean, they made light work of your suitcase the other day, so that was brilliant (mumbles). – Then underneath how
to climb comfortably, I like this from BcA Biciclind cu Axel. – What? – (mumbles) Don’t know. “Forget comfort! How to stay alive? “when you’re climbing?” Good point. I think that’s
what a lot of people are looking for, isn’t it? Maybe that’s one for us to do. How do you stay alive when you’re trying to climb up a mountain? Right then, on the
channel this coming week, we’ve got some more climbing tips form Emma actually, on
Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday is how to
climb out of the saddle, and then on Thursday,
she’s going to show you climbing hack for KOM glory, which we all want, or QOM, as the case may be. Friday, we think we’ve got a special Ask Geese Anything, with none other than Mariane Vos. Do you think Emma asked her whether the standard is higher? – That was good (mumbles). I’m sure that was probably her first question. Yeah, there we go. – Is the standard higher?
Or are you just not as good as you used to be? (both men laugh) – Set the tone for a
really great ask, that one. Right, on Saturday, we’ve got the (mumbles) Cuisine Series, so these are lemon blueberry pancakes, which sound absolutely delicious. Then on Sunday, sorry, I
forgot what days of the week we were on, we go behind the scenes at Mark Beaumont’s penny farthing record attempt, so make sure you check that one out. It’s a little bit out
of the ordinary for us, but blooming good fun to make that one, so hopefully it’s good fun to watch. And of course Monday and Tuesday there are regulars. Monday is the GCN Racing News Show, and Tuesday is the GCN Show. (instrumental music) Time now for Extreme Corner. And aside from crashing, this is probably the most suffering we’ve ever had on Extreme Corner. (instrumental music) – Oh man. (breathes heavily) I can’t stop. Oh my god. – It’s interesting, isn’t it? – I thought I was gonna be sick
there when I got to the top. – That is a lot of suffering right there. – That is a lot of pain, isn’t it? I reckon Lasty would struggle to get that amount of, no. Of course, Lasty is the king of suffering. – What? I think it’s different. I think if you’re in anerobic monster like that, you can go so deep, can’t you? In a way that we can’t. And you just must feel incredibly sick after an effort like that.
– Yeah, anyway, there we go. That was Ollie Wilkins, who was filming a video recently for ENBM, so our electric
mountain bike channel. That’s well worth checking
out if you haven’t. Yes, pretty incredible, those ebikes, aren’t they? – Yes, yeah, my cup of tea, those things. – Yeah. – All right, it’s almost the end of the show this week. We would like to give a quick plug to the GCN Shop at You should find a link
to that very shortly on the screen. If you don’t get lucky enough to win the caption competition, things such as the GCN
Camelback water bottle are available there, as are our replica kits, and our fan kits, and those black ones that we showed you last week are selling out pretty fast. – Yeah, they are. Remember, there is a 10% discount if you buy the shorts
and the jersey as well. And you might as well, ’cause they look pretty
cool together, I think. Right then, if you wanna
watch another video, now you’ve got to the end of this one, and now I suggest, if you haven’t seen it already, you
really want to watch this. This is Emma’s proper science. Anyway, there we go. Find out the ultimate upgrade you can make to your bike
if you wanna go way faster. – We’re about to watch it and make notes. (electronic sound)

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