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Sh*t I Never Knew: “Rollin’ Till the Wheels Fall Off”

Sh*t I Never Knew: “Rollin’ Till the Wheels Fall Off”

– Hey guys, Shawn again, Custom Offsets, Custom Offsets TV on the YouTube. Got another episode of Shit I Never Knew, this is gonna be episode 12, and it is Rollin… Til… The Wheels Fall Off. So you’ve probably got tagged,
or have been tagging people or have been sharing
pictures all over the ‘gram and Facebook of guys driving around with a wheel that fell off. One of our guys recently
had his wheel fall off at 60 miles an hour and has
still not find his wheel and tire cause it’s in a
swamp somewhere in Georgia. So what we did, we did
a thorough investigation to try to figure out
why this is happening. So the first reason it’s happening
is because people go out, John will you go grab me the eBay spacer? They go out and they buy cheap spacers, and I’ll show you what that
looks like in a second. So number one reason that
your wheels are falling off is cheap spacers. The way to identify a cheap
spacer is, number one, it does not have a hub. Can you get me also a good BORA spacer? Yeah, I know. This is intense. So I’ll show you the two. So one is that it doesn’t
have a hub-centric ring. Another one is that they don’t
list the grade of aluminum. A third one is that they don’t list the grade of the studs. Thank you, sir. So if you look at these
things side by side, you’re gonna see the number one, this is the hub-centric ring. So this cheap spacer
does not have that ring. So what it’s gonna do is two things. When you go to install the wheel, the wheel won’t have anything to center on, so it’s just going to land, you know, roughly on the studs. This helps center that. The other thing is, it
takes some of the weight off of the studs and puts it
on the center of that spacer. So your truck has a hub
that that wheel sits on. When you put the cheap spacer on there, you eliminate that centering
point and that place to sit. And this is what an eBay spacer looks like at 35 miles an hour, when
your wheel falls off. The other thing is, we
only use BORA spacers, and the reason we do that
is because it’s aluminum that’s aircraft-grade
aluminum and you can look up on the website exactly what it
is, I don’t get into details. And then the studs are a 10.1 steel stud. So the grade of the steel in the studs is significantly higher, so
that your wheels don’t fall off. So that is one way to make sure that your wheels don’t fall off. There’s another way that we
discovered with this one, because we knew he was
running BORA spacers, and it was the first time we
have ever seen a BORA fall off, so we knew something was wrong. And what we found is,
there’s a little catch that he missed when it
comes to stud length. So we will get people that will order an inch and a half spacer, and they want to put it on their Chevy,
and what happens is, this one’s a 2 inch. But what happens if you
have an inch and a half is that stud… on a Chevy, is… About an inch and… It’s 1/16″ short, an 1/8″ short of 1.75″. So it’s over an inch and a half. So what happens is, that stud
sticks through the spacer. So when you go to put your wheel on, your wheel smacks right into that stud. You don’t realize it, and you go and start tightening everything. So picture that. The stud’s sticking through there, you go to start tightening everything, and you’re tightening these studs now, where they used to be,
and it hangs up because you hit those studs, the
back of the wheel does, before it gets tight. So now you’re driving
around, you think it’s tight, it torqued right down, but there’s a gap between the wheel and that spacer. So now you just drive
around until things start to loosen up, and then
your wheel falls off and you become Instagram famous. So. Here’s the trick. This is a 2″ spacer, a BORA
spacer that was on a Super Duty. We always kind of said, you know, Chevys are under an inch and 3/4, so you can run a 1.75″ spacer, no problem. Some of the Fords and
stuff are under 1.5″, so you don’t have to trim
the ends off the studs and you can run like a
1.5 on some of those. Super Duties, for certain
years, they started making the studs just over 2″. So just that nipple
sticks out and it smacks right into the back of the wheel. So what happened was, he
thought this was on there, thought it was tight, but
it just had that paper-thin spacing between the spacer and the wheel. And you can see, the paint’s
not even worn on the spacer, because it was only touching
on the outside edges when he tightened it down. And then it just vibrated itself loose, sheared off the hub-centric
ring, and there goes the wheel, heading down the highway,
and you’re following it, not quite as fast. So the moral of that story
is, there are Super Duties out there that just have a
touch too much for a 2″ spacer. He should have went
through and took a grinder and took that nipple off
every one of these studs. The best thing you can do,
the only way you can make sure you ain’t gonna roll until
your wheels fall off, is when you go to install
them, measure those studs and make damn sure that the
length of that stud is shorter than the thickness of your
space of your adapter. So that’s how you know
that you have the adapter sticking out further than the stud itself. And you can bolt it up, torque down, and you know it’s touching. So I hope that helped. This was a short one,
because we are really sick of seeing people’s wheels fall off. The moral of the story is,
if you buy a cheap spacer, it’s not if, it’s when, that
the wheel’s gonna fall off. And then if you buy the correct spacer, you’ve gotta measure that stud length, and sometimes, because
they’re custom made, you should take the wheel
off and measure this before you order, cause if
you’ve got a Chevy 1500, a 1.5 means you have to cut
every one of these studs in order to get it to
fit without sticking out. If you’ve got a Chevy 2500,
most of them have to be cut to get a 1.75″ on it, cause
the 2500 has longer studs. So it’s best to just measure them up, and then go from there. – [Jonny] And it won’t
help rubbing in front, by adding spacers. – Yeah, we won’t even go there today. Yeah, you can’t just keep adding spacers and think it won’t rub up front. It rubs more when you
add spacer up front, so. That helps you out with
how to keep your wheels from falling off. Remember to subscribe,
remember to come follow us, remember to share these videos. Let us know what else you want to hear. As we see people failing,
we will keep bringing you knowledge of how we keep
you from failing, peace.

100 comments on “Sh*t I Never Knew: “Rollin’ Till the Wheels Fall Off”

  1. I have 14 inch knockoff spokes on my car and have a 1/4 inch spacer on it. I took the rim off to change a cv joint and the spacer was cracked in 4 places and a piece broke off. It was over torqued. Maybe I’ll buy new spacers

  2. I need some spacers for my chevy trailblazer 05 5.3 l but I can't find them can you help me out and sent my a link

  3. Thanks for the informative video! I was thinking about those Ebay spacers too! One thing no offense either but you really should take a bit to learn to read a tape measure. It kinda makes ya look unprofessional. A mechanic that can’t read a tape doesn’t exactly speak of a knowledgeable mechanic most would think.

  4. can i stack wheel spacers and weld them on the circumference of each other?

    or would the new outward leverage of the wheel itself break the original studs of the car?

  5. The company I worked for last didn't install or touch vehicles with the cheap spacers that didn't have studs. If I service a vehicle with spacers I always retorque them to vehicle specs, then install wheel and torque that down. Never had an issue.

  6. question im trying to put 1 spacer with no stud and 1 spacer with the stud together im trying to eliminate that extra stud so i can fill in the gap. is this safe to do??

  7. If I put a two inch spacer on my Toyota Tundra would I be ok with that please and thank you oh by the way I love your channel it's the best on YouTube

  8. Nice video. Another reason for a wheel off would be because of the stud clips. It causes a small gap between the spacer (or aftermarket wheel) and the hub. Certain spacers and aftermarket wheels are designed to take these clips into account, but from what I have seen almost half of them do not.

  9. Thankyou for this video, now I know why my daughters front wheels about fell off her 2000 F250 that she bought with wheel spacers already installed. Great Job. Saw this Video on May 11 2018.

  10. Half of the problems you speak about are customer knowledge problems, not spacer problems. The studs coming past the spacer isn't the spacers fault.

  11. I’m looking at aftermarket rims and the bore size on the wheel is different than the bore of the truck. What can I do?

  12. What about car guys? I have brand new 5×108 rims that I dont want to lose my shirt on by selling? My new car is 5×114.3

  13. Hey I need a good quality hub centric ring for ‘14 Sierra 1500 4wd
    Where do I shop ?
    OD 87mm
    ID 78.03
    These ION’s Alloy :style 186

  14. Give me idea bro what can I buy spacers or adapter bcz. If I buy wrong one my steering wheel gonna start shaking . I bought 2018 Dodge Durango

  15. Old video, but great knowledge. This happened to me back in 06 before I could be Instagram famous lol. The shop told me the spacer was made of pot metal and was a piece of crap. I was young and naive but the whole ordeal made me never want to use spacers again… I’m wiser now and it I can pull it off in the future with a good brand, I’d give them another try

  16. Bunch of bullshit.Hub doesnt suport the wheel .Torque does.Hubcentric spacers/adapters are there to CENTER and nothing else .If you know how to install lugcentric spacers / adapters theres no problem whatsover..

  17. An 1/8th short of 3/4s is 5/8s. For those of us who struggle with math. Not being a smart ass, I really do suck at math. Especial adding and subtracting fractions of different scales.

  18. I know this is an old video, but just wanted your thoughts or maybe links to videos or pics. My 2010 sierra is lifted, the front tires stick out 1.25" wider than the rear. I don't want to grind or trim my lugs. So my question is, if I put a Bora 1.75" spacer on rear…would that 1/2" more than front be that noticeable? I can definitely see the difference of 1.25" the front has now. Thoughts? Ideas?

  19. AWESOME. I have eBay open in another tab and in my cart is Standard Billet Spacers. I saw this and checked to see if the spacers had the hubcentric ring and they did NOT so I immediately REMOVED them from my cart. I did locate another source and made sure I got the hubcentric spacers. That really was perfect timing Thank You… You have a subscriber for life now ! ! !

  20. Let us say that your F150 has a 14mm diameter stud. Does the spacer or adapter carry that same diameter stud from the hub to the wheel? I see you mention 10mm and a different video mentions 7mm. I don't want to reduce stud size.

  21. The correct way to space out ur wheels is to widen the axle, the manufacturer chose a specific factory wheel offset for good reason. Why u would ever want to prematurely ware down ur bearing and balljoints i have no idea.

  22. This is the most unorganized I'll prepared video I've ever seen. Should probably write down all your points first in the English language, not that scribble. So you don't have to match your talking to your slow ass writing.

  23. They didn't notice the studs sticking out past the spacer ? 😳 yes even a hub-centric spacer not seated on the back of the rim is going to fail eventually , even when it does seat well use a 5-6 complete turns on the Hubs Nuts minimum ,

  24. So on my 02 avalanche I'm putting 35×12.50R22 with a 6in rough country and I'm guessing i need a 2in spacers for just the back! So this means i dont have to cut my studs??

  25. I ran cheep 2" spacers, and they are great. They have the ring and I off road with them, never had a problem on my jeep liberty with em. But yes if you don't know wtf your doing stay away from spacers or have a pro look at it.

  26. Question….I bought a set of BORAs and the "hub centric ring" does NOT contact the inside diameter of my wheels. There is a very slight maybe 16th of an inch slop from side to side. Are they supposed to be a snug fit or slightly sloppy fit?

  27. Your retarded son I know plenty of people with cheap spacers "3rd party spacers" personally I drove my s13 v8 with them drifting daily etc 10 yrs no issues! If u don't tourque spec spacers right & torque spec wheels right that's where u fuk up

  28. i have a 2014 raptor and i want to install 1.5 inch spacers from custom wheels do i have to check on anything or trim my factory studs ? or will it work just fine ?

  29. After this video, I went to subscribe, and to my surprise, saw that I already had who knows how long ago. So all you get today is a thumbs up.

  30. On the 2019 Tundra Platinum 5.7L Crewmax will the BORA wheel spacers (5×150 wheel bolt pattern, 14mm1.5 wheel studs, 2.00" thick) work without grinding off the factory studs down and not cause this type of issue?

  31. Installed the Mcgaughys 7”-9” lift on my 17 sierra 1500 and it had a wider track width up front. Will I need a 1.5” spacer or a 2” spacer in the rear so it could be even with the front? Any help is greatly appreciated.

  32. You guys are absolutely right, but just saying i bought off ebay the steps, paid 80$ the SAME steps saw them in the shop “auction” for 250$ , bought a leveling kit..paid 60$ , SAME even SAME brand saw at the same shop for 300$, if you know how to shop with ebay you can save money and buy same material that other commercial would sell you for top brand and top money…

  33. I asked ebay seller, setgroupusacom, what USA "grade" meant for their wheel spacers and they blocked me from their auctions. I did some more research and bought a set of BORA spacers.

  34. I would like to see to a video beating with a hamer a cheap wheel spacer and bora spacer to see how strong they really are

  35. Never ran hubcentric. Always ran lugcentric 2" spacers front and rear. Towing heavy grossing up to 30,000 pounds driving cross country. Never had an issue. I didn't buy Ebay spacers but still not hubcentric. Always torqued to specs 140 ft pounds. Been many of years duallies and no duallies. Same spacers.

  36. I had the studs on my truck snap off and never really knew why. Was always afraid to add aftermarket wheels since. Thanks for clearing this up.

  37. There are so many other very good spacer manufacturers, why are you all such bora fan boys they aren't that great, just over priced American junk

  38. Just pay attention when installing them, most of the issues listed here were from human error. I ran lug centric 1.25" spacers on a 4×4 97 Tacoma (20×10/33×12.50) for over 5 years with no issues. I always used Red Loktite on the stock lugs and torqued the spacer studs. Took it everywhere and never had a hiccup.

  39. Anybody running spacers that Aren't HUBCENTRIC is a dam fool. Do some reading before you go throwing shit on your car

  40. Dont you think you should have it all ready before shooting the video you knob. Every two mins, get me this get me that

  41. having bora wheel spacers will stop steering wheel vibration… I do have fuel contra wheels 33×12.50R24 with -44 offset with 4 inch lift kit….I have a 2018 ford F150 XLT crew cab….. the wheels came with hub centric ring but I will to install bora wheel spacers…

  42. randomly came across this trying to find cheap spacers 2 in for yukon and it made since about the center ring all I was looking at had none of that thanks for that

  43. the tapered end of the lug nut seats itself in the tapered part of the spacer causing it to self center on the studs Anyways im getting custom made hub and wheel centic steel wheel spacers Also im gonna place 4 tack welds all way around to the brake rotor cause even thow its hub centeric the wheel rotating, torque still goes to the studs so small feathered tacks will take care of that AND not worry AS MUCH about taking wheel off and checking torque im so glade I found this channel great vids guys

  44. Thanks for sharing, very obvious. But it's scary just how many people don't have the basic common sense when installing these high quality spacers. I won't even comment on those Ebay spacers.

  45. When You torque the spacer to spec and the studs protrude slightly, I’ve noticed some aftermarket wheels that actually have gabs in the back of the wheel. Making it so that you don’t have to trim the studs. I thought this was neat.

  46. Great video! Very helpful! Question… I’m currently building a 02 Chevy S10 2wd and want to install 95 C4 Corvette sawblades wheels. So far I’ve gathered that I could run 3 inches front and 4 inches rear adapters. I will get BORA adapters but would like your advice since safety is the #1 priority. Thanks

  47. Don't some Aftermarket wheels have open cavaties making them spacer friendly?
    I have seen some wheel where the studs where to poke out fit inside those holes (as long as the studs are not poking out that much of course)

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