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Style Before Speed – Are Cyclists Too Vain? | The GCN Show Ep. 272

Style Before Speed – Are Cyclists Too Vain? | The GCN Show Ep. 272

– Live, from the fourth
road race for Sport Relief. – [Both] Welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show,
brought to you by Wiggle. – Yeah, that’s right, the
GCN Show’s got a new sponsor, so thank you very much to them for helping to keep the lights on and to settle Lloydie’s bills. At the hairdresser’s. – Are you Daniel Lloyd? – I am, actually, yeah,
do you watch GCN, do you? – No. – Yeah, not only that, though, we’ve got a brand-new giveaway segment, where each week, thanks to Wiggle, one lucky viewer will win
in our Wiggle of Fortune. – (laughing) Yeah, more
on that coming up later. We also discuss whether
we cyclists are vain. Do we prize fashion over function? – I think we can safely say that some do. Plus we take a sneak peek
at a brand-new Zwift route, we’ve got race news from
the Tour de Pharmacie, and we’ve got what is possibly
the most relaxing video of someone cycling over cobbles ever. (soothing music) – Ah. (exciting music)
(people shouting) (logo whooshes) This week, in the world of cycling, we learned that it’s a tough old game. Firstly, some fitness tests are so hard, that you need to wear a helmet even when you’re cycling on a
stationary bike indoors. (speaking foreign language) (man in helmet grunts) (flapping lips) (both laugh) – He puts me to shame though. That is absolutely another
level of suffering. – Actually, that’s pretty staggering, yeah, I think that’s probably about it. – That’s very kind. (panting and grunting) This is the one I thought was the top. Anyway, we also learned that bike racing can bring you to tears, and that pro racer Elia Viviani likes a good cry. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s just that his dismay
following his finish at the prestigious Gent
Wevelgem on Sunday. Definitely puts him in the top five list of cycling’s biggest
breakdowns of all time. – Yeah, I reckon, actually, I’m in that list as well, at least once. Now, the big talking point on this week’s show is a touchy one. Are we cyclists vain? I mean, I know we’re a little bit vain, but is it actually at the point where we prize how we
look over how we ride? – Fashion over function. – Yeah, style over speed. – Case in point, many of
us don’t use saddlebags because we don’t like how
they look on our bikes, but they certainly do work really well. So is it a case of fashion over function? – Yes, in that case, that would be. Much like top tube bags, actually. I’m told they work very well, just that I personally wouldn’t want
one anywhere near my bikes. – Vain.
– Well, no. Well, yes, I mean, is it? Like it’s, admittedly
I don’t wanna be seen with a top tube bag on
my bike, but equally, I don’t actually want to
look at a top tube bag on my bike, I like my bikes to be clean, and simple, and minimalist, and I worry that a top tube bag will kind
of ruin the vibe, you know? – Okay, then, so I’ll
let you have that one. Not using a top tube bag is not vain. – Thanks, mate.
– But what about Rapha’s new cargo shorts which have
a built-in banana hammock? Literally. – Yeah, well, okay. Given that it’s Rapha,
you kinda have to say there is a fashion element in there, but maybe utilitarian
is the new minimalist. So it is fashion. – Not sure cargo Lycra is functional, but I should probably withhold judgments ’til I’ve tried them.
– We should wait. Personally, I think I
would rather put my banana in a top tube bag rather
than cycling shorts, and that is actually saying something. Sticking with the short theme though, white shorts, now that is a prime example of fashion over function. You know only too well,
Tom, just how transparent white Lycra becomes when wet. As do you, Si, ’cause you had to race in the same peloton as me
and the five other members of the same time during a British season. – Yeah, yeah, I know.
– It was grim. And I should say that it was a team kit, so it wasn’t vanity on my part, and also say that everyone, all of us who raced in those white shorts were sorry for our competitors, and would add that white Lycra isn’t necessarily fashionable. – No, no, I don’t think it ever has been, but still, it’s a style choice. – What about leg shaving? Surely that is cycling’s vanity, the peak of cycling
vanity, vanity personified. – Yeah, that video, it’s four years old, and it’s as creepy watching it today as it was the very first
time I saw it, Tom. Sociable, isn’t it? – It’s quite nice, it’s nice
that we can bond as a team. (both laugh) – Anyway, is there a point to leg shaving? No. But does that mean it’s a bad thing to do? No, I don’t think so. – [Tom] No, I don’t think so, I’m not sure it’s vain, either. I think it’s an example of herd mentality. – Ooh, that’s another
subject entirely, Tom. – Well, another thing that is very fashionable at the moment is gravel bikes. – Yeah.
– You know, it’s the first week that I can remember where we haven’t actually had a new gravel bike on the market, in fact. – (laughs) True. – But, are gravel bikes an
example of fashion over function? – Well, actually, interestingly,
I think the opposite. I think they’re probably
function over fashion, because in many cases,
I think people would be buying a road bike because it’s cooler, more stylish, when in actual fact, they may well be better-suited
to a gravel bike. And they may well have
more fun on it as well. And let’s take that new
Canyon Grail gravel bike, I mean, those double
handlebars, for a start. That is a prime example
of substance over style, or at least you hope so, anyway. – You know what, I think
it’s finally a time when bike manufacturers are prizing functionality over fashion. Take trends like disc brakes, aero this, gravel that, and wider tyres. Although they are all
current and emerging trends, they’re actually things that are based on functionality, in fact, over fashion. And then if you go back
to traditional road bikes, which may have a historic aspect to them, you’re gonna be stuck with things like bigger gears, narrower tyres,
perhaps worse geometry, and also, maybe, a harsh ride. – Now that is a very, very
good point indeed, Tom. And if we are actually
delving back into history, how about one of the ultimate cases of fashion over function? Featuring the legendary
five-time Tour de France winner, Bernard Hinault, who
reportedly refused to wear plastic-framed sunglasses,
instead sticking it to his metal-framed Ray
Bans, that then went on to break his nose in a crash
in the 1985 Tour de France. – Ouch.
– Yeah. – Was Bernard Hinault vain, though? No, I don’t think that was his– – I don’t think so.
– Reputation at the time, and now I think he’s possibly one of the coolest bike riders ever. – Yeah, oh I’ll tell you what, mate. We might get into hot water now. Is being one of the coolest
bike riders of all time basically meaning that you are vain? I mean, no, I personally don’t think so, but still, you’ve got to ask
the question, haven’t you? Pippo Pozzato, fashion over function. GCN’s unofficial head of fashion, Adam Blythe, Mario Cipollini? – No, not all of them, anyway. And that’s ’cause there’s a difference between wanting to look
good, and making it harder for yourself in order to look good. But it is weird how cycling can sometimes prioritise aesthetics. If you go to a running race, for example, no one really cares, they kinda look like they all got dressed in the dark. – That’s right, you would never comment on another runner’s socks, for example. You wouldn’t comment on another
triathlete’s socks either, but that’s ’cause they’re not wearing any. And it’s another subject entirely. Whereas, at a bike race, not only would you comment on
another person’s socks, you’d probably do it in the race itself. Like, we are a serious bunch, aren’t we, and we all gauge our
competitors’ abilities by what they’re wearing, how they look, and what bike they’re riding. It’s like a parade, in fact, isn’t it? Of peacocks. – (laughing) Yeah.
– Peacocks, know what I mean? – Let us know what you
think down in the comments. Are cyclists just too
vain, or is looking good an important and integral
part of the sport? Also let us know your
fashion-over-function or function-over-fashion fails. – Yeah, get involved in the the
comments section down below. I think my biggest
fashion-over-function fail probably is a simple one. Wearing a pair of white socks
at a muddy cyclocross race. And within literally 30 seconds, they would never be the same again, and from then on they
were brown cycling socks. – Well, I think you’ve already detailed in perhaps too-graphic detail, my biggest fashion-over-function (Simon laughs)
fail, so, yeah. – It was etched into my mind, Tom. – That and the leg-shaving video. It’s been a bad lead story for you, Si. – Yeah. (“Reveille”) (title bounces) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – Cycling Shorts now. And here in the UK, we
had official confirmation that bikes are now faster than cars. – Yeah, you heard that right. Admittedly, there are some pretty major caveats behind that headline. See, the average speed
of a car in urban areas is now 18 miles per hour, according to government statistics. And that actually sees a
fall of one mile an hour from when they did those
stats three years ago. And, although that’s
relatively fast for a cyclist, it is probably less than a speedy cyclist, That’s right, yeah. Right now, changing the subject slightly, if you are heading over to
par Roubaix to watch the race, and you haven’t gotten
your accommodations sorted, then this might be of interest. Journalist Daniel Friebe tweeted that there is an entire
street for sale in Roubaix. – [Tom] Not terribly practical
for overnight accommodation. – Well, you say that, Tom, but each house will be for sale for one Euro, yeah. Which is pretty cheap, isn’t it? Now, we kinda say that tongue in cheek, but there is, of course, a
very serious element to this, and that is that the region
that par Roubaix takes place in is a region of high unemployment,
high social deprivation, and it is not economically
prosperous in any way. So you’ve kind of gotta hope, haven’t you, that the race can be of some benefit, whether that’s the race itself, or the associated tourism
that cycling brings with it. – Staying with racing,
the UCI has announced that they have got a
new tool in the fight, or rather, the mission to
deter mechanical doping. That’s right, they’ve got an x-ray van. – Yeah, x-ray van. Actually not just a van, an x-ray trailer. So the UCI said they’re gonna tow it to 50% of all World Tour race days. And the idea is it’s gonna be able to give a really quick and clear snapshot
of a bike’s hidden depths. Now personally, I don’t think
they’re gonna find anything, but I really hope they don’t. I mean, I hope they don’t find anything, I hope there isn’t anything there in the first place to find,
if you see what I mean. – Yeah, I definitely second that. We’ve got some ultra endurance news now, and that is that the record for cycling the length of South
America has been broken by a man named Dean Stott, who took ten days off the previous best. – Yeah, I don’t think that’s breaking, I think that’s smashing it. Total time was 48 days and 54 minutes. Perhaps the most impressive part was that that wasn’t actually the aim. It’s part of a wider trip to cycle the length of the Pan-American Highway, all 22,000 kilometres of it,
and smash that record as well. And he’s actually a
very interesting bloke, by the sound of things. Quite new to cycling, he used to be in the Special Forces in the
UK, so the SPS, to be precise, and he’s doing it all to raise money for Heads Together, which
is a mental health charity. – Yeah, if you’d like to
follow Dean’s progress, we’ll add a link down in the description. (techno music)
– Hello, and welcome to the GCN Wiggle of Fortune,
(game show music) the show within a show where each week, one lucky viewer is in with a shot at winning a big prize. – That’s right, to play the game, what you’ll need to do is sign up via the link that we’ll
put in the description below the GCN Show each week. We will then pick a contestant at random. This week, Linda Findlay.
(audience applauds) – Linda Findlay, congratulations. You are our first-ever contestant. – On the GCN Wiggle of Fortune. – I’ll tell you what,
Tom, I’m enjoying this. Right, so basically, what we’ll do is we are gonna spin our
GCN Wiggle of Fortune, and wherever it stops,
that is what you win. On it are five prizes, okay? Four of them are vouchers, so, prize number four,
(graphic pops and tinkles) is 25 pounds, or whatever
currency you work in, prize number three,
(graphic pops and tinkles) is 50 pounds. Prize number two
(graphic pops and tinkles) is 75 quid. Tom, what is the star prize? – The star prize, Si, is a 150 pound voucher.
(graphic pops and tinkles) (audience applauds)
– Awesome. Check it out. Now, the reason that we
are operating in vouchers is basically so that you can actually buy what you want, or indeed, what you need, as opposed to leaving
you scratching your head, wondering what on earth you’re gonna do with another helmet, or something. – You did mention a fifth prize. – Ah, Tom. Glad you mentioned it. Prize number five, look closely on the Wiggle of Fortune and you will see a beer icon, okay?
(straw slurping) If the wheel stops on the beer, then Dan Lloyd is to walk over to the fridge
(fridge tinkles) and get himself a cold beer. You, unfortunately, do
not get anything at home other than a warm and fuzzy feeling, knowing that you have
given Dan the gift of beer, and he will therefore love you for it. All right then, Tom, should we do it? Are you ready? – Yeah, count me in.
– Are you ready at home? Linda, in particular, are you ready? ‘Cause you are about to win, and potentially win big. Three, two, one, go. Spin the wheel!
(wheel clicks and beeps) There it goes.
– Spin. – Spinning, it’s spinning, it’s spinning. It’s gonna stop completely at random. Keep your eye on the beer, Tom, keep your eye on the beer. Eye on the beer, eye on the beer, here it comes, here it comes. – It’s not the beer.
– It’s not gonna be the beer, is it? All right, here we go. Prize number one, prize number four, it’s 50 pounds, is it gonna be 75 pounds? – It’s gonna be it.
– Is it gonna be 150 pounds, Tom? (Simon screams)
– It’s gonna be, it’s gonna be in there. – [Both] Oh!
(hands thud) – What a win.
– 75-pound voucher. – Congratulations, Linda.
(graphic pops and tinkles) That is fantastic, let us know what you decide to spend
your 75-pound voucher on, and we’ll, well, we’ll talk
about it in next week’s show. In the meantime, if you wanna get involved in next week’s GCN Wiggle of Fortune, you know what to do. Look in the description
beneath this video, and you will find a link. Get involved, put your name down, and you can enter our sweepstake. – Definitely, and again,
huge thanks to Wiggle for getting on and
supporting the GCN Show. – Absolutely, and giving
you the opportunity to win each week, or of
course Dan, potentially. – We hope it’s you. – I don’t know, mate. That beer. (techno music) Tech of the Week, now. And have you seen the new
sneak peek from Zwift? No pun intended, but it
is called #AlpeDuZwift (ominous music) (goat bleats) (dramatic music) Frankly, it looks like we could be having a monster new mountain
pass coming to Zwift soon. – Awesome stuff. – Yeah.
– We also wanted to give a shout-out to
our mate Rich Mitch, who you may know as the designer
of pro cycling portraits and also as the designer of
our very own Dom Estique. Rich has given his legends
kit an update for this year. There you go, have a look at that. That’s very colourful.
– Yeah. And then finally, in the absence of a gravel bike to discuss this week, we thought instead we
would turn your attention to an e-bike, oh yeah, that’s right. But seriously, worth it,
the Specialised Turbo Vado had a very cool accompanying video with it when it was launched. Cool, because basically
it features Pete Sagan. (wind whooshes) (gears hum) ♪ Bicycle, bicycle, bicycle ♪ ♪ I want to ride my ♪ ♪ Bicycle, bicycle ♪ ♪ Come on ♪
♪ Bicycle ♪ ♪ I want to ride my bicycle ♪ ♪ I want to ride my bike ♪ ♪ I want to ride my bicycle ♪ ♪ I want to ride it where I like ♪ – We do actually have a
gravel bike to talk about, Si. – We do?
– And that is the gravel bike as a prize for one very lucky viewer. Because we are, of course, giving away a 3T Exploro LTD frame set
with 3T stem and 3T bars. – Yeah, that is one belter of a prize. A banger, in fact. – The winner is, (drum roll)
– The winner is, Kareem El Koussy from Switzerland. (audience cheers and applauds)
Congratulations to you, I am ridiculously envious, that is one seriously nice bike. – Yeah, congratulations, Kareem,
that is an awesome prize. We had another giveaway
over the weekend as well. We were giving away two tickets to ride at the Ronde Fan Ride.
– Oh, how cool is that. – That is seriously cool. The lucky winner there was Gasper Koren. (audience cheers)
– Gasper Koren, congratulations to you. That’s literally where you get to ride in front of the race. In fact, in between the women’s and the men’s Tour of Flanders. So we have all the fans and spectators out and you get to ride your push
bike on those famous roads. That is amazing. Right, and fortunately, if your name is not Kareem or Gasper, and you haven’t won these competitions, then do not worry, because we have another one up for grabs at the moment. In fact, five Met Trenta carbon helmets. Lloydie unboxed them over
on GCN Tech Channel now, and that competition is still open. So get on it quick. (techno music) – This week, on Racing News. The (speaking foreign language) yep, that’s right, the Tour de Pharmacie isn’t just a film, it’s also a bike race. (exciting music) (men shouting) – Yeah, now, I must confess,
this probably wouldn’t be the kind of race that would
have me gripped, normally. Certainly not at this time of year when not only are the Cobbles
vying for our attention, but also the Volta a Catalunya as well. But Dan Craven, friend of
GCN, friend of everyone, in fact, he’s that kind of chap. – Whatever’s in the bus, really. (laughs) – Was there, and his tweets from the race had me gripped, quite frankly. Only 45 riders actually started
the race in the first place, but then, Tunisia was hit by
the worst weather conditions it’s seen in over 20 years, so the race turned into a bit of a fiasco. – Yeah, well, stage one ran
relatively without incident, apart from the odd DNF, but it was on stage two when
those weather conditions hit, and in fact, only 15 riders
managed to finish this stage, and it took them five hours
and 26 minutes to do so. So bad was it that the organisers then decided to annul that stage, meaning that anyone who
had finished stage one could then start stage three,
which was good for them, but less good for those 15 riders that had suffered through sleet and cold for five hours and 26 minutes. – Not so fast, because
the finish of stage three was also coated, covered in snow, which meant that that stage was cancelled, so the organisers reverted back to the final result of stage two and the overall after stage two
as the final overall result. Apparently, though, the
organisers did handle what is an incredibly difficult
situation brilliantly, so hopefully they’ll have
better luck next year. – Yeah, fingers crossed. That did sound like bad luck, didn’t it? Right, meanwhile the winner of Milano San Remo, Vincenzo Nibali, was heading not to the Volt a Catalunya, but instead to Austria to preview the course of this
year’s World Championships. In Vincenzo’s own words, he said, “The final climb on the circuit is like “something from a mountain
bike endurance event, so hard.” Not entirely sure what he
means, but it does sound hard. – The Gramartboden, which
Nibali was talking about, sounds like a brutal climb. It’s 2.8 kilometres long. Average is 11.5% but
kicks up to 25% in places. And if that was not savage enough, the total elevation gain
for the men’s course at the Worlds this year
is gonna be 4,670 metres. – (exclaims in surprise) My
eyes are watering at that, but I’m also salivating
at the same time, weirdly, at the prospect of watching that race, and the women’s race, on TV. That is gonna be great, isn’t it? Probably one of the hardest
Worlds courses for decades. – In memory.
– I guess, yeah. Fantastic. Right, now Nibali was
rumoured to be heading over to the Tour of Flanders. He’s not on the start list. If he does, and he does
something there as well, he will become, officially,
one of my top five current most exciting
riders in the pro peloton. That’s right, he’s won Grand Tours, he’s won a couple of monuments now. Imagine adding Flanders to his Palmares. I mean, to be fair, he was probably already in the top five, but anyway, that would cement his place, undoubtedly. Lastly, a quick bit of
info from the Baby Giro, which is the under-23 Tour of Italy. The final stage of this
race will take the form of a pursuit for the top 20 on GC. They will race up the
Muro di Ca’del Poggio and the first on GC will set off first, with the others following
based on their time gaps on the general classification.
(Simon exhales) That sounds very cool. – It does sound cool, but it also sounds terrifying. Imagine being, well,
the pink jersey holder, and being chased by everyone. – Might’ve been the teammates, you know, you’ve worked really
hard for this guy all week, and there are none of you in the top 20, so, you know what, mate, do your best. – Yeah, we’ll see, just stand at the top waitin’ for him, cheer him on. Right, now that is actually
the end of Racing News. Well, it’s the end of the news, but we have, obviously, our
Cobble Classics Fortnight running here on GCN, loads and
loads of cool videos for you. We also decided it was a cool opportunity to print some mega t-shirts,
which we’ve sold out of. However, good news, we’ve
cobbled together a few more, so if you like the look of them, please head over to the GCN
shop and pre-order it now. And then after that, I think we need a nice, soothing clip of
the most relaxing video of anyone riding across cobbles ever. Tony Martin, of course, of Katusha. (soothing music)
(gears hum) Ah. (drill whines) It’s time now for Hack forward
slash Bodge of the Week. One of our favourite times
of the week, in fact, where you send us pictures
of the very best hacks and the very worst
bodges that you can find. Send them in to us on social media using the hashtag #gcnhack. (exhales sharply) Right,
without further ado, let’s crack on, shall we? This first one, from
Cyclezone in Mooloolaba. They have said, “We’ve been in development “to engineer the ultimate “street/gravel grinder handlebar setup. “We counted 36 hand positions
and 42% more knee impingement. “Not to mention the fact you weren’t gonna “turn the handlebars.” What do you think, Tom? – Um.
– That pretty much sums it up I reckon, mate.
– Yeah, it’s a bodge. (spring twangs)
– You reckon it’s a bodge? I mean, you can’t argue, there’s
some hand positions there. – [Tom] I’m impressed at
how they’ve managed to count the number of hand positions. – [Simon] Yeah, I reckon
also there’s quite a big risk of either not being able
to reach you brake levers, and certain hand positions, if you crash, of breaking your forearms or wrists. So it’s a high-risk street/gravel grinder. But anyway, we appreciate
your ingenuity there. – [Tom] Now we’ve got this one from @Clashcitywomble on Twitter, who said, “Spotted this in Barnes today. “One way of getting comfy at
the traffic lights, I guess.” And someone has taped, I wanna say taped, the saddle to the top tube.
(Simon laughs) So they can kinda like, take a bit of a rest, well of course. – [Simon] It might be
where their child sits. – [Tom] It might be
where their child sits. – [Simon] You know on like a top tube bit, but yeah, I’d prefer to think of it as a rest for your right buttock. – [Tom] Yeah, not bad, I like that one. – [Simon] Probably say it was a bodge. – [Tom] Yes, yea,
(spring twangs) Clashcitywomble has also said I’ve got a bodge. – All right.
– Pretty good. – [Simon] We’re in agreement. Got this from Barney Crocker,
spotted this in London, not sure what’s going
on but it looks scary. – It does.
– You’re right, actually, that does look terrifying. – [Tom] How the, what’s
going on with the stem? See?
– Whoa. – [Tom] Whoa, so how’s the stem got in there? – [Simon] That’s why they
alter the position wasn’t it? Tom’s going for a closer investigation. – [Tom] What did, I can’t
even see what it is, but it was quite high
quality enough to judge that. But that is a terrifying bodge. (spring twangs)
– Yeah, well, I’d– – How would you brake?
– Probably more worryingly, it’s just someone that doesn’t
know how to stop a bike, that’s loose on the streets. You know what, I always
think in those situations, would it be helpful to go and explain that maybe there’s an
easier way of doing it? Or is that just better to just leave someone alone and say oh, yeah. We’ve had this discussion before, and ultimately, I’m British, so I would leave them to get onto it, I wouldn’t wanna make a scene. But they might value, I
suppose, a bit of input from a helpful friend
– Are you suggesting a vigilante street bike fitter? – No no no, not vigilante,
I’m thinking more on the lines of like, a Good Samaritan, kind of like, hey by the way, you know, I believe you should put your
stand down by a centimetre, you might find it more comfortable. – Bike Man flies in in his cape, anarchy settles down a centimetre.
– There we go, right yeah, you heard it
here first on Hack or Bodge. Right, moving swiftly on. Oh my goodness me, a man with a dog on his bike. – [Tom] This is cool. The dog looks chill, doesn’t he? The guy riding the bike
also looks pretty chill I’m gonna say hack, ’cause it just looks like a nice kinda crazy day out. – [Simon] I suppose I’d
say, if you’re cruising, you know, going fast, your dog could just jump off at will, and you know, not die. – [Tom] Doesn’t look
like an overly jumpy dog, it looks like a pretty–
– No, it doesn’t look like a dog that’s held on in
any kind of safety way. But anyway, yeah, fair
enough, that’s a bodge. (spring twangs) – [Tom] I was gonna say hack. – Are we, oh, fair enough. (title smacks)
Right, now this one I really like. I admire the ingenuity and
the commitment as well. So Louis Donovan sent this one in. He said he broke his road
bike on the first day of a training camp when he was abroad. He then managed to find a women’s full suspension mountain bike. So he put his TT bars on
that and got away with it. Do you know what? I think that’s cool. He’s then asked if I
like the top tube bag. To be honest with you, I barely
even notice the top tube bag over the fact that he’s got clip-on tri bars on a mountain bike. And more seatpost than
I’ve ever seen in my life. – [Tom] That is a major zoom
on that, it’s incredible. – [Simon] It’s a big seatpost. Anyway, cracking effort there, I believe the ingenuity is genius. – [Tom] That’s an admirable hack. (title smacks)
– That’s a good ride as well, that. 20, 26k an hour average
speed on that bad boy. – [Tom] Max 61k an hour. – Fair play.
– Fair play. – I like that very much. Right then.
– That’s our last hack. It is. And what a hack it was. Make sure you keep them coming in, as we said at the beginning, using the hashtag #gcnhack. (techno music) – Caption competition now, and last week’s photo was this one. Of Tiesj Benoot at the
Tirreno-Adriatico time trial. And the winner, Si, who’ll get a lovely GCN camelback water bottle, is? – Well, the winner, Tom, is Alluvial Fan. And I don’t think it’s gonna be your first GCN camelback
water bottle, either. I think you’ve had a
good comment in the past. I’ve Benoot and aboot on my bike. (rim shot)
Yes. Simple, terrible, to the point. We like it, it’s bottle-worthy. Right then, this week’s
photo that has been selected by Tom last, is this one
of your personal ones? Or have you found this in the archives?
– No, this is from our photo archives.
– Oh, okay, right. Not just you, eh? Anyway, Mario Cipollini
letting it all hang out. Should we, should I give it a go, Tom? (Tom clears throat)
Fashion over function. I don’t understand, what do you mean. See if you can do better. (clears throat) Let us know in the comment
section down below. We will choose a winner next week. – Shouldn’t be too hard this week. – (laughs) Yeah, actually. (techno) Before we have a look at what’s coming up on the channel this week, let’s have a quick go through
some of the very best comments you’ve been leaving under our videos. We enjoy reading them very much. You often make us smile,
and you often make us think. Anyway, this one jumped out for me. This is from Preston Glace. I beg to differ on the alcohol thing. It’s a reference to last week’s GCN show. Screw the science. The more I party the night before a crit, the better my result, and
I’ve tested this many times. One time, some mates & I
went out and got drinks, then rode to a bar to get more drinks, but one guy went home. The next day, all of us made
it into the winning break, except the one guy who went home early. Now, that sounds like science to me, Tom? – It does, it sounds like there’s a moral to that story, doesn’t it? – Yep. – Next up, I got this one
from Mike Ainsworth, who said, Dear GCN crew, I have
identified a new and exciting business opportunity for the channel. He said, instead of doing
random content pieces or paid promotion elements, how about a paid omission service
where riders and teams can pay to avoid having their stars mentioned in GCN race preview shows. Thus avoiding the GCN curse, and gaining income for the channel. Win-win. – Is it called extortion when you do that? – Possibly.
– Yeah. Anyway, there we go. I’m sure it’s been done before, but yeah. If you don’t wanna be mentioned (laughs) in our preview show, then
just get in touch now. Right, now this one
really made me chuckle. This was underneath our
homemade aero bike vide. Or at least, our homemade cardboard bike that tried to be aero. WillEyedOney, WillEyedOney? Said this, back in the early 80s a mate had a lovely 531 steel frame which he decided he’d make faster by moulding teardrop sections around the upright tubes with body filler. Needless to say he wasn’t any faster and he ended up destroying the frame by riding head down into a parked car during the testing phase. (laughs) That was great. – (laughs) Actually, very, very funny. – Yep. – On Wednesday, coming up on the channel, we’ve got how to ride
a century or 100 miles, or 160 kilometres. On Thursday–
– It’s 161.4, apparently, according to Emma. – 161.4 kilometres, on Thursday we’ve got ten riders to watch at
the Tour of Flanders, and a bonus video, five of the
toughest climbs in Flanders. On Friday, we take a look at
some top-secret new wheels. – Oh yeah, then on Saturday,
Matt and Dan investigated what is the best tyre
size, so that’s pressure, to run on the cobbles of Roubaix? Then on Sunday, we have
a very interesting video. Shimanu Ultegra versus Shimanu Dura Lex, what is actually the difference. Then of course Monday it’s
time for the Racing News show, which will, of course, be
about the Tour of Flanders, and then, Tuesday’s GCN Check. (rock music) – It’s time now for Extreme Corner. And this one is from
our mates over at GMBN. And to be honest, it
makes me quite nervous. It’s all about hitting a
corner as fast as you can. – With no brakes. With no brakes. (bike thuds)
(people shout and laugh) – Oh, I mean, how, man? (people whoop and laugh) (man applauds) – [Man On Bike] This is so stupid. (all laugh) – Oh no. Whoa!
(all laugh) Run on bike, fall down. – Tom, I’m slightly confused by that. Impressive though it is, why would you take your brakes off? – I have no idea. I can confirm that Blake is not hurt. I have seen him earlier today. – Fair play to the guys, I mean, that really is quite,
quite impressive riding, and slightly mad. Right, now, moving back onto
the road side of things, it’s safe to say that we’re pretty excited about the bike racing that’s
going on at the moment. Specifically that in Belgium and France. Oh yes, the Cobble Classics. We’ve got the Tour of Flanders
coming up this weekend, and because of that, we have the GCN Cobble Classics Fortnight. Basically got away, made loads of videos about the Cobble Classics. So make sure you are staying tuned to GCN and GCN Tech, and
as we mentioned earlier on, we do have these t-shirts,
if you wanna get involved and celebrate with us. – And if you wanna
check out another video, I think you should have a look at Si and Emma’s DIY-ish aero bike. Or DIY aero-ish project, sorry. – Yeah, I like the fact that
you called it a project, Tom, because that makes
it sound quite official. Unless, of course, you
mean like school project, in which case it sounds
a bit less official. But anyway, check it
out, it’s a good video. Is it faster? – No.

100 comments on “Style Before Speed – Are Cyclists Too Vain? | The GCN Show Ep. 272

  1. i have several gravel bikes, when i ride my hybrid on gravel – gravel bike, ditto for mtb. Yikes, you guys need to get over your love of all new bikes, just get one or 2 you like and JUST GO RIDING.

  2. Simon, Simon, Simon….no point to leg shaving? Specialized wind tunnel would disagree . Surely GCN does science should be having a go at reproducing this one.

  3. Cyclists are vain, and we love it, vanity is part of the culture. In which other sports do fans obsess over the sunglasses a pro is wearing, or the hight of their socks.

  4. The Specialized 'Win Tunnel' videos claim that shaving legs makes a bigger difference than almost anything else, to aerodynamic drag and Watts saved.

  5. The bike at 23:15 it a 'ghost bike' I reckon, so the handlebars will have been deliberately bent out of shape.

  6. As a former triathlete. cyclists are mere infants when it comes to vain! The typical cyclist's socks are way too long… covering up those shapely ankles. Wake up, embrace the ankle sock and display your Achilles in all its sinewy glory with pride.

  7. oh. i had assumed folks shaved their legs so that in the event they fall and get scruffs, leg hairs would be one less factor to clean, and potential ingrown hairs.

  8. Chris Froome update.

  9. So shaving your legs does not help reduce problems with your wounds when you crash? I always thought that on high speed crashes the hair can melt into your wound and make it way more complicated.

  10. Those very upturned handlebars from Hack/Bodge were quite popular when I was young.  Lots of people (not me) rode this way.

  11. in hacks and bodges, the top tube saddle i think is definitly where the child sits, if you looks close you can see pegs for thier feet

  12. Yupp, way to vain, we got to start abiding by the Scottish cycling rules 🙂

  13. Before you decide if cyclists are too vain, allow me to refer you to GCN video discussing “sock game”.

  14. Fashion/function??
    You guys don't wear gloves training because of ten lines??? In England?? You're having a laugh, given that Matt could fall off a rocking horse I recon go with gloves for self preservation 🙂

  15. @gcn Street vigilante bike repairs? Its been done in case you have a short memory.

  16. Oh dear, I hadn't thought that my post would be mentioned on the GCN Show; as my name was mentioned will I now be inflicted by the GCN Curse! Oh wait, I'm a 53 year old club leisure rider not a Pro – that's a relief.

  17. Here's a witty analysis of the men in lyra syndrome. Call it narcissism call it vanity, call it a quest for health. Come to that; call it a need to commune with nature, a need to escape rubbish telly, 'er indoors, brats yelling – it remains an escape route and one so enjoyable it bewitches a vast number of we poor saps of men and some needing to big it up, to alpha-male it. We are apes and do this without thinking. It is writ more large in some than others. Hilariously so.
    Anyway – here's a link to a newspaper article. You may have to highlight it, press CTRL + C to copy then place cursor in addr bar then CTRL+V to put it in the address-bar

  18. "Harsh ride" on a Colnago Master? I don't think so. Beautiful bike to ride. It's the type of ride that carbon fibre frame manufactures struggled for years to acheive. Many still haven't it seems.

  19. That climb sounds like Morro da Cruz in Florianópolis – Brazil. 11% and 2.5km long, and some VERY steep parts. I've been told it reaches 40% in a place, but I don't know how I could measure that. I just know that even riding 34×36 on a road bike it's still very hard there, and sometimes I even stand with that gear. There are a few other very steep climbs here, possibly worse than that, but they go through some dangerous favelas (slums) and I think theres a risk anyone who rides up might be walking down without a bike…

    But then there's Serra do Rio do Rastro in Lauro Müller also in Santa Catarina state, which is 11% and some 10km long. Theres a race that happens twice a year there, 19km long, and is bruta! And then theres Morro da Igreja at Urubici (some 100km after Rio do Rastro), which is even worse, and reaches the highest inhabited spot in south Brazil. I don't know the numbers, but there are a few places that look like a wall, and I did zig-zag with 34×36 gearing while climbing it. It's absolutely brutal, specially when the only time I climbed it was after having climbed the other mountain above mentioned, riding a total of 165km with temperatures from 2 to 7 celcius and raining all day. I think you would enjoy such a ride (mwahahaha) that day we had 19 starters, 3 finishers only…

    And then it comes to that fashion over function thing: triple cranksets are just better for hilly rides. I'm waiting only for a custom frame to be ready so that I can build a 3×11 bike with Campagnolo Athena groupset… My current bike is 2×10 with 50/34×12-36 and how I hate those gaps between the gears!!!! Come on, why triple stigma? Just come and ride any of those hills I mentioned, and you will be grinding on 34×28 wishing you had another chainring. I'd ride a quad if I could.

  20. We call the upside down bars DUI style. It’s the 45 y/o guy who lost his license and dug out his old bike to get to work and realized he’s not as flexible as he once was.

  21. Hi GCN, could you please analyse and criticise the ridiculous differences in prize money between mens an womens races?
    The UCI should level their rules.

  22. These fellas ride ugly oversized tube plastic bikes made in Taiwan and then worry about how a saddle/toptube bag will look! You have to laugh!!

  23. CAPTION: White shorts are so bad even Cipollini wanted to camouflage then with tiger stripes to avoid being seen.

  24. Hi, I shave my arms and legs to stop bees getting stuck in the hair( I am allergic) and have been stung a few times this way.

  25. Someone, , once said, "Cycling is all about fashion, exercise is a side benefit". Truer words were never spoken.

  26. I'm feeling quite attacked by that runners dressing the dark comment. I'll have you know I have a little push button nightlight to dress for my morning run…..not sure if that is better than dressing in pure darkness though

  27. Given that cycling is a spectator sport, I think if you're in a major race it's a good service to the sport to look good, though not at meaningful cost to performance.

  28. You guys have got to chill out with the volume on the music. Making the music three to four times louder than the general volume when you guys are just talking it's absolutely ridiculous it makes it unbearable to watch your videos anywhere but home certainly not while you're out and about in public. Might want to hire a new editor…just a thought.

  29. HACK or BODGE: The top tube mounted seat is for a small child. The foot pegs are mounted to the down tube (as seen to either side of the current rider's right leg)

  30. mmm i'am 54 and been cycling since i was 7…. however once i hit 40 my wife said there was something basicaly wrong with middle aged men in lycra … she's now my ex wife !  it wasn't  the being 40 and middle aged that got me…. oh ok it was but at 174cm and 74 kg iam the same as i was at 17 ,and thats not easy . so why do peoples attitudes change just because you've got a bit older ? and remember men neve grow up we just get slower …..ish lol

  31. My wife wouldn't let me wear lycra until I'd lost at least 10gk when I bought my first road bike. I've achieved that goal and since upgraded to a carbon road bike. Trouble is it's got green highlights so I can't wear any bike gear that clashes with green! So out with the old blue and red lycra and in with the new orange and black!
    You just gotta look good !!!!

  32. Generally YES !!!
    I'm sickend by all those mediocre, or even outright fatty middleages bad bikers, that try to compensate via buying the most expensive gear.
    Its stupid.
    I train on a really cheap frame, with some equipment added, that gives a close to race-frame geometry and functionallity.
    It litterally 1/10 the price of those guys carbon-stuff.
    And I get a monumental better training effect.
    Thats proven when in races, where I ride a more expensive racebike. I kill those guys.
    When I meet them in training, they are loudmouthed and showing of and just idiots.
    I dont get why the latest fashion look is more important than common sense and getting the best possible outcome from riding.
    I find those vain people to be immature, butnI remember in the 70's when it was topcool and the latest in equipment fashion to have gold-chains. I had one to.
    But I was only a teenager then…

  33. Cycling is very gay, and that's something to do with it, but I think a lot of the vanity thing is historic. All societies have a hierarchy, and in the cycling community pro racers were the top dogs. Sporting a clean look implied that you were like the pros, who had mechanics to muck around with their bikes for them and thus didn't have to get all oily themselves They also had fresh kit supplied by the sponsors and generally looked the bees knees.

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