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The Worst Things To Say To A Cyclist  | GCN Show Ep. 352

The Worst Things To Say To A Cyclist | GCN Show Ep. 352

– Hi, this is the Jones’ with
Springfield Brewing Company. – On Red Mountain Pass in Ouray, Colorado, welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show. – This week, phrases that
no cyclist wants to hear. Now you can either avoid using them, or deploy them with devastating effect. – We’ve also got something
called pimp my bike path, plus more Scandinavian sport sites, and all of our regulars as well. – Plus Dan, the first
ever case of e-doping. – Controversial. (upbeat music and cheering) This week in the world of cycling, we learned that bikepacking is so 2019. The real adventurers out there have turned their back
on sleeping in hedges, and gone to caravaning. – Yes. (light upbeat music) Yes, more caravaning with Mark Beaumont coming soon to GCN.
– I can’t wait for that. – Yeah, and that’s Global
Caravaning Network, by the way. – Yeah it is. – Not cycling.
– You can subscribe to that by clicking on the button now. – That’s right. Now we also learned this week that even the best of the
best can still struggle with bunny hopping barriers. This is Lars van der Haar, you got to say escaping
quite lightly from that one, but not quite as stylish
as Aniek van Alphen. – Well that was rather smooth actually, wasn’t it?
– Yeah. – Although, here is Chris Akrigg showing us all how it’s done in a clip from his latest video. – Yeah, although it’s probably said, we don’t actually know if that was a proper
cyclocross course, do we? – No, although we might find out later on, because we’re going to feature
more of Chris’s latest video. – True, right now though, we are talking about the worst things
to say to a cyclist, because we are a sensitive
bunch, aren’t we? – [Dan] We are. That’s not surprising though, because most people that
wear tight fitting Lycra are quite sensitive.
– True. – But there’s more to
it than that, isn’t it? The sport of cycling is so hard, it can leave you psychologically fragile, so much so that even the smallest of even unintended insults
can leave your morale diving off a cliff. – Absolutely. Such as, Dan? – Well, for example, if you’re on a climb, – Yeah. – and you’re really suffering, but you think you can do this, and then somebody comes
up to you and says, “If you think this bit’s hard, “you ought to see how steep
it gets round that corner.” – Ah mate, that is the worst, isn’t it? You’re on the climb,
you’re okay, you got this, and then suddenly someone drops that line with a smile on their
face, and boom, it’s over. You stop like a bollard in the middle of the road, don’t you? – That basically is the equivalent of when a race organizer decides to put the king of the mountain’s line about a kilometer from
the top of the mountain. – Yeah, what is with that? – I don’t know. – It’s not all about climbing though. There’s a classic, isn’t there? You’re out for a really long ride, you’re starting to feel it, and then someone comes
past you in the bunch, smiling away, saying, “Well done, “we’re almost halfway around.” – [Dan] Yeah. – [Simon] What, why would you do that? – Yeah, when you didn’t
know where you were, but you thought you were
on the homeward stretch. Some things you just don’t
really need to know, do you? – Exactly. – And then there are other comments, which are far more subtle,
but can do just as much, if not more damage to you psychologically, such as somebody coming
up to you and saying, “You’re looking well.” – Ah. That is just harsh. To a normal human, that might
seem like quite a compliment, but no, to a cyclist, that basically means you’re just not quite as lean as you perhaps would want to be. – They’re saying you’ve put weight on. – Yeah, a bit like, ooh,
what type of rider are you? No, let me guess, rouleur, sprinter? No, I’m a climber, what
are you trying to say? – Well, probably that you’ve got cankles, I’d imagine.
– Yeah, true. Don’t say that either. But no, say, instead
of you’re looking well, just, you’re looking fit,
that’ll do, won’t it? – Yeah, that would sound
a lot better, wouldn’t it? – And you’re ankles look
really slim and nice. – Well they might not say that, but there are other comments that are just simply scary, aren’t they? Like when you’re about to embark on a tricky mountain descent, and a rider comes up to you and says, “Do you know what that noise is, “and rattling coming
from your handlebars?” And you’re like what? – Equally scary, that rider
just in front of you there, they’re a triathlete. – [Dan] Whoa. – Yeah, I mean nice to get
a little bit of warning, so you can give them a bit more space, but still scary, and frankly,
it’s also pretty scary that they can disguise
themselves as actual cyclists by just putting socks on. – [Dan] Yeah. – [Simon] What’s that about? – I know. And actually, this
has reminded me of something that’s even worse than that. About two years ago, I can’t remember what the reason for this was now, but somebody came up to me, and thought I was a triathlete. – What? – I was so insulted. – Oh yeah. I’ll say, that’s really weird, because I’m not sure you can even swim with arms like that, but there we go. – I may have had my inflatable armbands on that time.
– Well there you go. Now we, triathletes, we joke, by the way. We know you’re a sensitive bunch as well.
– I don’t think there are any triathletes still watching this show after the last few years. – No, fair enough, fair enough. Now of course, it’s not
just about your body that you can be insulted as a cyclist. For many of us, our bikes
are also sacrosanct. All right, you say what
you like about my cankles, but just leave my bike out of it. – It can be worse
insulting somebody’s bike than their body in fact.
– Yeah, absolutely yeah. – A classic case is
when somebody’s invested in a brand new, top of the range bike, somebody comes up to them and says, “Love your new bike. “I’ve just been reading
actually on the internet, “they’re about to release a
new version of that model.” What? I’ve just invested in this brand new bike, and it’s just about to be
superseded straight away. – Yeah, and I’ve heard as well
they’re reducing the price, next year as well.
– Yeah, add a little insult to injury. – Yeah, ooh 12 speed, nice. 13’s coming next year as well, you know? And that’s just the tip
of the iceberg, isn’t it? Brake rub. Oh, you know, just a tiny bit of brake rub can cost you 20 watts at 30K an hour, and you’re thinking, well, no, but also my brakes aren’t rubbing. Are they? I mean now you mention it, I am feeling a little bit sluggish today, maybe my brakes are rubbing. Maybe they’re on full. – But what generally happens is that upon closer inspection, neither
of your brakes are rubbing, are they,
– No. – so all that’s been holding
you back, is your own body. – Yeah, although here, we’ve got to say, this is the limitation of disc brakes. No one really talks about this, rim brakes, someone says
your brake’s rubbing, you just flick the
lever, the quick release, and away you go.
– Yeah, that’s true. – But discs, you got to stop, and then you’ve got to
spend about four hours at the side of the road, trying to actually stop them rubbing. – Not easy, is it? – NO, get your 20 watts back.
– Need a roadside maintenance course for doing that. Some things that the general public say, can also get to you a
little bit, can’t they? A bit like, you could
have bought a good car for the price of that bike. – Yes, yes I could have done. In fact, I could have bought three of my Ford Focus Estates
for the price of this, but I didn’t want to, all right? One is enough. In fact, one is more than
enough, many people might say. Another one, oh, you
should be paying road tax for that, shouldn’t you?
– Oh man. Don’t get me started on that. No, I’m not paying road tax, because road tax has
not existed for decades. You pay tax on your vehicle, so I pay tax on my car, but not on my environmentally
friendly bicycle, okay? – Wow, I think we’ve
touched a nerve there. – Oh I hate that one.
– Yeah. A little bit like when someone called you a mammal the other day. – They did. – A middle-aged man in Lycra.
– Not middle-aged, please. – No, you weren’t even
wearing Lycra at the time. – I wasn’t, no.
– Yeah. – Anyway, I think we should
probably conclude this subject, before I get myself too irate about it. – We should, yeah. – As ever, we would love
your comments on this. Is there anything in particular that people say to you
that really winds you up, that always touches a raw nerve? Let us know down below. It is now time for your
weekly GCN inspiration. Quick reminder, the prizes have changed. Now for third place, you will
get a GCN club casquette. For second place, you will receive the latest GCN club socks, plus three months free
subscription to the club, which would normally
cost you $15, 15 euros, or 10 pounds per month, but the winner each week, in first place, will get themselves some GCN fan kit, which for this week remains
this version in pink. – If enough of you ask in
the comments, by the way, Dan will wear this for the duration of the GCN show next week.
– No I won’t. All right, if 100 people do. – Okay. Right, there you go, challenge is on. Now, before we get started, last week’s GCN inspiration, we had this amazing photo
of a section of pave from right here in the U.K., and we said we didn’t know that existed, but anyway, we had a comment. Firstly, I thought it
was from G. Halleywell, and thought to myself,
well, that’s amazing, Ginger Spice is watching. It’s Gareth Hellywell. Anyway, he’s pointed out that that was actually called Spencer Lane, in Hebden Bridge, in Yorkshire, and he basically said there’s
loads of cobble climbs up in that neck of the woods, and also Rob Patrick got
involved as well on Twitter, to point out as well
that there’s a sportive called the Ronde van Calderdale, so there you go.
– Wait a minute, they actually put a race on. – That’s right. They actually invite us to
come up and have a ride, but it does look quite hard, so we might send James instead. – I’m pretty busy until
2021 unfortunately. – Yeah. – Anyway, we are to move onto third place, receiving the cap this month, and it goes to Dermet in Cottesloe. Just about to set off on
our Saturday morning spin, after a wild night of weather in Perth. – That’s pretty cool man.
– Got to love a rainbow. – [Simon] You do indeed. And that one was very clear
where the pot of gold is, isn’t it? – [Dan] Yeah, just got to swim out to it. – That’s right, triathletes
will be loving that mate. – Yeah
– There you go. – And in second? – Second we’ve got this one from David, from the Tavan… – I was about to say,
we’ve picked ourselves some very easy names
to pronounce this week. – The Tavan Bogd Massif, in Mongolia’s Altai mountains. So there we go. That is absolutely
bonkersly amazing, isn’t it? – [Dan] It does look fantastic doesn’t it? – Fantastic.
– With a dozen like-minded riders on
a bit of an adventure in the far west of Mongolia. – Did you have fermented horse milk? That’s a genuine question for people that go to Mongolia. Yeah, apparently that’s a delicacy. Fermented horse milk, so yeah. – Regardless of whether they did or not, he will be receiving the
latest GCN Club socks, and three months free
subscription to the club. Meanwhile, the winner this week of the GCN fan kit is Amanda. Commuting home after a large dump of snow over the last weekend in September, looks like we have one foot in fall, and one foot in winter. – [Simon] Wow. – [Dan] I mean, I chose this winner. It almost doesn’t look real.
– [Simon] That looks like one of those funky Photoshop things, where it’s all black and white, except for one thing in color. – [Dan] Please don’t tell
me it was Photoshopped. I’m pretty sure it is real. I’m easily fooled though. – [Simon] We are indeed easily fooled, but yeah I like that Amanda. That is absolutely cracking work. – It’s a cracking photo, that one.
– It is, brilliant isn’t it? Makes me not scared of winter. Or not as scared of winter, as normal.
– No, but it’s been horrible here recently though, hasn’t it? – Yeah.
– Anyway, if you’d like to be in with a chance of winning one of these three prizes on next week’s show, all you need to do is submit your photos or videos, in fact. Have not had many good videos recently. – No. – On the uploader, not on GCN, obviously.
– No. – So, if you want to
submit either of those, as ever, use the uploader, a link to which is in the
description down below. – Yeah, except Dan,
there is now another way to get involved in GCN inspiration, as well as many more things besides. – This is a big announcement Si. – It is actually, isn’t it? – All right, you might
have been noticing recently that I have not been featured on quite as many GCN videos, and there’s a very good reason for it. It is because I have been
single handedly developing a native app for both iOS and Android. Complicated stuff, Si,
but in essence it is a Firebase/MongoDB hybrid cloud backend, which are driven by
server-less architecture. – What, what, where have
those words come from? – They’ve always been in my head Si. I’ve just been busy making this app. Basically, Si and I have not
been much of a do with this, but we’ve had a team of developers who have been working
on it in the background, and they are producing the GCN app. – [Simon] Yes, that’s right. So, for one thing, you will as mentioned be able to upload
submissions for the GCN Show, but you will also be able
to share them directly with the GCN community. You will be able to vote, for example, on whether someone’s bike
is rather nice, or splendid, and you will of course be
able to watch GCN videos there as well. – [Dan] Yeah, we’re really excited about it.
– We are. – [Dan] But it is in the early stages at the moment.
– Yes. In fact it’s still in
beta on Android, isn’t it? – It is. And we would love
to know your thoughts on it. Like everything actually
that we do on GCN, we would like to know
the good things about it, but also the bad things about it as well. So if you’re interested in
seeing what it looks like at the moment, head
over to your app store, and it should be available for most of you in most countries to download right now. (horn) – It’s now time for cycling shorts. – Cycling Shorts now, and we’re going to start with
some slightly controversial news, from the world of eRacing. – Slightly. This was a press release put out by British Cycling last week, which revealed that they had uncovered some technological
fraud which had occurred on the run-up to the inaugural eRacing National Championships
earlier this year. And even more unfortunate, was the fact that the rider involved, Cameron Jeffers, won the race. He was National Champion. – That’s right. The statement was a little vague as to exactly what that
technological fraud constituted, but it has since turned out that Jeffers used some kind of ANT+ bot to effectively cheat
his way to 50,000 meters of elevation gain on Zwift, in order to unlock a special Tron bike that he then used to qualify,
and in the final itself. – It was slightly ironic actually that he didn’t even qualify to start with, did he?
– Well yes, that’s true. – He only got into the finals after two of the people that did qualify decided to pull out at the last moment. But anyway, as you can imagine, this caused quite the social
media storm last week, and it was quite bad timing in some ways, because just the week previous, the UCI and Zwift had announced the inaugural eRacing World Championships would be taking place next year. – That’s right. It’s unfortunate timing, but actually it’s really
good news, isn’t it, because catching people that are cheating is one of the things that
people were concerned about with eRacing in the first place, so it kind of shows that what Zwift, and the various federations
are doing, is working, and presumably they can
just step it up from here. – Very true.
– So yeah. Anyway, on to some more positive news now. – If you’ll pardon the pun.
– Indeed. It’s traditional for us here at GCN, in the few weeks post-World Championships, to keep a beady eye out for our newly crowned World Champions. It’s to see if they are brave enough to rock white shorts to match their new white jerseys as well. And, Elite Men’s winner Mads Pedersen has revealed his first. – [Dan] Revealed his what, exactly? – Well, quite, yes. Anyway, you’ll be glad to hear, he’s gone for black shorts, yay. Well done Mads, and
also team sponsor Trek, for going with a classic look. – You almost got that
wrong then, didn’t you? – Well I was just teasing.
– I tell you what though, his bike’s all white. – See what you did there mate. I mean technically,
technically it’s not all white. It’s got rainbow stripes
on, but it does look nice. I like the fact that his
chain has been treated to unicorn pee though. – [Dan] Yeah, rainbow colored chain. – That is cool.
– I mean, that really is the icing
on the cake isn’t it? – That is, fair play SRAM for that one. Yeah. Also, I couldn’t help but
notice in the press photos that Trek supplied us with, there’s these really cool ones, taken in a rusty old petrol station. Is that a little dig that
some of his competitors had actually run out of
fuel during the Worlds, like van der Poel and Trentin? – No, I don’t think that
was the intention, really. – No? – No. Anyway, last week it was good to see that Chris Froome took to Instagram to show us all that he’s
now back out on the road, training after that horrific crash that he had on the time
trial bike back in June. I tell you what, that’s
got to be a lot of rehab that he’s done already
to get out there by now. – Yeah. How many months is that? July, August, September. Whoa, 3 1/2 months. Crikey. Anyway, he has also said actually that he is lining up, or
will be lining up, rather, for the Saitama Criterium in November, so you’d think actually
he’s done quite a bit of hard work already, wouldn’t you? – Well known as one of the toughest races on the calendar each year.
– Absolutely yeah. – Moving on, last week you remember that we requested for you to
send us pictures and videos of the worst bike paths
you have ever seen. Thanks to all of you who
have submitted those. We’ve had some pearls haven’t we? – Yeah, keep them coming. – Including this one
from Michael in Germany. – [Simon] Yeah, now
what is going on there? That’s not a bike path Dan. To my mind, that’s a signpost in a field. – Well apparently, you are legally obliged to ride on that, whatever it actually is. It hasn’t been all bad news in the world of cycling
infrastructure though. Last week we saw this announcement from neighboring Belgium. – [Simon] That’s right. This beauty is called
Cycling through the trees, and it’s basically an elevated bike path, 30 feet up among the treetops. – [Dan] I’ll tell you what it is. It’s pimp my bike path, new
segment on the GCN Show. – Yes, send us your terrible
cycling infrastructure, and also the cream of the crop, for pimp my bike path here next week. Now, I’ve also, thinking
of cream of the crops, uncovered a gem of a piece of research that was printed in the
Scandinavian Journal of Science in Sport. – Is this more of your
Nordic skiing expertise? – No, not Nordic skiing this week. This is about sprinting in Australia. Oh yes.
– Of which you have no expertise at all. – None at all, no, but fortunately, an academic by the name of Paul Merkes, or Paul Merks, I’m not
entirely sure which, tested the Caleb Ewan sprint position, my words, not his, against the standard sprinting position, and found that there
was no negative impact on power, cadence, or torque, among the group of cyclists
– Really? – [Simon] that he tested, yeah. Check it out. I, basically everyone always thought that, you know, he wouldn’t be able to put out any power, but was super aero, but no, that’s not true at all. So from here on in, I’m
going to be unleashing all 604 of my sprint watts, – Well to be fair-
– In a ridiculously aero position. – You probably will be going faster for those 600 watts won’t you? – Yeah, until I hit a pothole, in which case I’ll- – Yeah, then you’re going very slow. – Yes. – Unfortunately, we are going to finish Cycling Shorts this week on a rather somber note, for two reasons. Firstly, last week
Giorgio Squinzi of Mapei, the owner of that company
passed away just last week. Now if you’re new to the sport of cycling, you probably have no
idea what impact he had on the sport over the
last couple of decades, but basically in sponsoring that superteam through the 90s and early 2000s, he shaped an entire
generation of pro riders. – Yeah. It was the biggest and most ambitious team that cycling had ever seen, probably still is to this day in fact, but it wasn’t just about
the biggest riders, and untold race victories, and the coolest kit and bikes the world of cycling had ever seen, because Squinzi actually
put considerable time, effort, and resource into developing the next generation of riders as well. – And then another legend of cycling, albeit on the other side of the sport, Peter Schoon passed away in his hometown of West Fargo, North Dakota last week. Now he was best known
for giving away thousands of bikes over the years
from his home workshop, and fixing countless of
others, free of charge. So a true cycling hero, and one that deserves a lot of recognition for everything he did for the sport. (drill) It’s now time for hack, forward slash, bodge of the week, and we shall begin with this one that came
in from Brent in Ohio. Saddle preference taken to a new level. Great bike for rainy rides. Fuzzy is the new aero. – [Simon] Well yeah,
hard to argue with that, although there’s not fuzz where
you’d necessarily expect it, like on the saddles,
or indeed the battery. – [Dan] No, you’d think they’d have fuzz on the saddles for extra
comfort, wouldn’t you? – You would, yeah. But, you got to say hack really, because someone’s obviously
put considerable time and effort, and probably
money into creating that sort of bike horse hybrid there. – I could put a lot of time
and effort into everything Si, and it’d probably still be a bodge, but I’ll go with you
– Well exactly. – on that one. – [Simon] Yeah, I think
that’s a hack, yeah. – Okay. – Right, next up we’ve got
this one sent in by Richard. He said the new Zwift steering function. He can’t steer with a riser block, so he’s basically gone out to his garage for a bit of backyard
engineering, he said. In fact he’s so pleased,
he might patent it, which I think is quite ambitious, but. – [Dan] I think it’s pretty cool. He can swivel on that. – A swivelable steering block. But yeah, fair play Richard, I like that. You probably need to
tell us how it’s done, although then you might
not be able to patent it, because someone else will nick it wouldn’t they?
– No. Although he has got competition Si, from the next submission, which came in from Steven
in his conservatory. – Oh yeah. – Who has also got the
ability now to steer on Zwift, courtesy of this device.
– Nice. A 10p Iceland bag for life. – [Simon] Hey, that’s
more up my street, mate. Not the least because it
catches all the drips. – [Dan] I thought you
had the waitress one. – Well yeah, I’m surprised
that you recognize that that was an Iceland carry bag there, but there we go. – I saw the I, oh no I couldn’t.
No, I could recognize it. – To be fair mate, I don’t
have any plastic bags at all in my house anymore. – Do you not? – No. It’s kind of annoying sometimes, because they’re actually quite useful. – They can be, yeah.
– For putting like smelly, wet cycling kit in when you’re
coming home from a ride, so, but no, I’m going to have to get
a swivelable riser block now. So Richard, when you get
your pre-production versions, just send them our way and
we’ll have a little look. Anyway, there we go.
– Right, moving on. We had this one coming in
from Chris in Australia, where it is a legal requirement to have a bell on your bike, so he made this from a cheap bell and a spare out-front mount that he had lying around at home. Cost was significantly cheaper than the commercial version,
and that’s rather neat. – It is quite neat. Hidden under his Wahoo ELMNT there. – Yeah.
– It’s a… – I’d say hack, but I have to say it looks like quite the reach around to actually activate the bell. – It does actually, doesn’t it? You need to know exactly where it is, otherwise you’d be, like, struggling there wouldn’t you? Next up we got this one from Mary. Sticking with the indoor training theme. She said she’s just added indoor training to her regimen, but doesn’t
have an iPad stand yet, so her husband made her
one using some strong tape, zip ties, and a Rapha box. – Wow.
– Not just a cardboard box, Dan, but a Rapha one, an expensive box. – Blimey, does that make a difference? I mean it’s a quality box. – It does look like a quality box, yeah. – But it’s taped on. It’s got to be a bodge still, isn’t it? – Absolutely massive bodge there. – Looks like it works, but bodge. – Yep. – Then we got this from Jack. This is a rack that I made out of a pressure treated deck board. It is screwed to the car from underneath. Always a big hit at the local rides. – Well, that’s commitment, screwing a bike rack to your trunk there, I believe that one is. But I mean it’s, it looks
pretty neat, doesn’t it? – Yeah.
– I’d paint it if that was me. – Do you think he needs a
sort of registration plate, sort of light mount out of the back? – [Simon] You’re such a
pedant Dan, aren’t you? I’m sure he’ll be fine, but I definitely think
that needs painting. – Anyway, should we say hack for that? I mean he’s hacked through his trunk to get that onto the car. – He has indeed, yeah.
– It literally, it literally is a hack. – Great hack.
– All right. If you would like to submit yours, use the uploader just down below. – It’s time now for the
caption competition, that point in the show
where you get the chance to win a much coveted GCN
Camelback water bottle. All you got to do is
have a very witty caption that you pop in the
comments section down below, that’s tied to the photo
that we’re about to show you. To give you a hint, this
is last week’s photo, and here is the winner. – [Dan] Yeah, the winner
being medieval knievel, who put caption, we’d better be careful, I hear the UCI are
clamping down on rafting. I thought that was very
good, medieval knievel. – [Simon] Yeah, it’s
pretty solid, isn’t it? You know.
– It is. – Rafting, drafting. – Send us your address
using a message on Facebook, we’ll get this bottle out to you. To be fair, all we need to do Si is write a witty caption each week for the caption competition.
– Well, if only. – And we fail every single week, don’t we? – Yeah.
– I think I failed this week, judging by rehearsals which
went down like tumbleweed. – Rehearsal. – This is Cyril Gautier at
the Crow Race last week. Ready? – [Simon] Yeah. – [Dan] Second time? You’re going to laugh this time. He sells seashells on the seesaw. – [Simon] Yeah, it’s still poor isn’t it? – [Dan] It is still poor, yeah. – [Simon] Like yeah. – And every week, I hope
that nobody comes up with anything better, and
every week most people do. – Yeah, and every week I hope that they do come up with something better, and thankfully they always do. – Yeah, all right, good luck. (whooshing) Next up is your opportunity to win yourself three months
free subscription to Zwift. All you need to do to put
yourself in with that opportunity, is leave us a coaching related question, or training related question down below, with the hashtag #ASKGCNTRAINING. – That’s like a double win, isn’t it? Not only do you get
your question answered, you also then get three months free subscription to Zwift.
– I know. – Amazing. Right, Edward Lunn is the
lucky person this week. He said, “Hi chaps, I started
using Zwift last winter, “because between work and kids
there wasn’t enough daylight “to go out and ride. “I really enjoyed it, I felt
stronger than ever in 2019. “I’ve discovered some crits nearby, “held at a local brewery,” Yes, sounds good. “And how can I use Zwift to train “for next spring’s crit season?” – Hm, I tell you what Edward, you are in luck, because you are about to get your question answered by two criterium specialists, right here.
– Yes, yeah. – I’m only joking, of
course. I think between us, we probably completed about three crits where we didn’t get lapped Si, didn’t we? – I mean we can’t say that
we’re specialists Dan, but that’s probably because
we were just so good at everything else, we
couldn’t specialize in it. Anyway, that doesn’t meant that we don’t know how to train for crits. The first thing, most importantly, is to recognize actually what a crit is, and although it’s one hour flat out, it’s not a constant effort. Generally you’ll find it’s
like 100 short sharp efforts, with minimal recovery in between. – Bit like a non-dirty
version of cyclocross from that point of view, isn’t it? – Yeah, although don’t
try and hop the barriers. That will be tough in the next crit race.
– Unless your Chris Akrigg. No but Si’s right, and
so of that point of view, although we would recommend spending a period of time trying
to increase your FTP, which is what you can hold for
a steady state for an hour, once you get a bit closer
towards your criterium, near the brewery… Brewy? We would recommend doing
some micro-intervals. That’s really going to get you ready for those repeated efforts. Now they can take the form of
40 seconds on, 20 seconds off, 15 on, 15 off, or even 10 off, 20 off, but you can do those with about five or six minutes at a time, and up to three or four per session, and you could do a couple of
sessions per week like that. – You can. What I’d also suggest actually, is through the winter,
just have a bit of a stab at racing on Zwift as well, because although it’s
different to racing a crit out on the road, the kind of hard work that you do in a short period of time, generally you’ll go really deep, and you’ll put in a lot
of concerted, hard efforts over threshold as well, so I’d give that a –
– Also worth noting that, sorry Si, that criterium specialists are generally very, very
skilled aren’t they? Maybe another reason why we
didn’t do very well at them, but if you’re not particularly good with your bike handling, or not that comfortable being in close proximity to other riders, working on that is going to
help you as much as anything. – Absolutely. Yeah, that’s very true indeed. – Right, if you want some advice on how to treat the
brewery part afterwards, I’m your man for that, and first up-
– Yeah, come on Dan, what would the tactics be? – Well always pace yourself.
Or just do what I do, and go out early and try
and hold on to the end, but your nutrition strategy
– Yeah. – is very important as well. You can sometimes shelter
behind other people when you line up to the bar. That way you can sometimes get away without paying for it at the end of it. And lastly, don’t do
anything that I wouldn’t do. – Well no. I mean, like say you tend to go for an early break, don’t you? Go out straight, as hard as you can, from the gun, and then
use your amazing power of endurance to basically hold off all the way to the finish line,
which is often a lot longer and further away than you
might ordinarily have thought, but yeah, Dan will be off there
in the distance somewhere. Pretty much, isn’t it? – Hopefully. – Right. We have some amazing comments that you guys leave under
our videos all week, and so as ever, we’re
going to pick out some of our favorites. – Yeah, and as ever, we’re going to leave the negative ones out, aren’t we? – Yeah. – Right, starting with this, underneath alternative training methods with Hank and Opie. – Eh.
– nerdexproject, sorry, says, “Dude, riding with my own weight “is already challenging enough.” And it seems like a lot of
people were in agreement, judging by the number of
likes that comment got. – That’s right. And then Jeremy’s cracking video, where got to spend a day with Sven Nys, being taught how to get
put into the barriers by the greatest of all time
as well, I enjoyed that bit. Roy Johnson says,
“Perfect, he still has it. “Man, I got a little
nostalgia emotion there. “My two favorite cyclocross
racers of all time, “playing on the stairs. “Really miss rooting for
these guys all winter.” – That was great to see
that video, wasn’t it? – It was.
– How much passion Sven Nys has got for developing the next generation of cyclocross riders. Meanwhile, under Jeremy’s Vancouver ride, LaughingSaint wrote, the
drone pilot needs a raise. Great job. – [Dan] Can’t really afford it, can we, but he did a great job.
– No. – There were some great shots-
– Why don’t we give him a pat on the back? Should we give him a pat on the back? – Yeah, always do that.
– Yeah, okay, there we go, – I’m sure he would be satisfied
with that, wouldn’t he? – Yeah, I’m sure he would be. It was a cracking video that, wasn’t it? I did enjoy watching that as well. Right, underneath Ollie’s
marginal gains video, dutypaidrock left this one. I
don’t quite understand it Dan, but he said, “Wrapping your helmet “in cling film doesn’t work. “I have two children to prove it.” So anyway, I don’t know. – You do get it Si, that was genius. That was genius. – Well it got 46 likes, so, yeah. Anyway, another underneath
the hyperbike video. Steff started a petition for me to grow my actual
hair into a blond mullet, and there’s quite a few
replies and 237 likes under that one, so, well.
– Right. Steff, if you put another comment with the petition below
and it gets 1000 likes, Si is going to agree to do that. – Oh. – No, he hasn’t. I just made that up. – To be fair, I would love
to have hair like that. I felt like the don. I genuinely did, yeah.
– Did you? Didn’t really look like it, but anyway. Moving on, coming up on the channel over the next seven days, on Wednesday we’re going to
show you running for cyclists, how and why you should be doing it. On Thursday, it’s the aforementioned 10 worst bike lanes video. Thanks for all your submissions from that point of view. And on Friday, we’ve got
another day in the life of a cyclocross legend. This time it is Annemarie Worst. – That’s right. On Saturday, we have got a factory tour around the Willier factory in Northern Italy. – Willier? – What would you call it? – Willier. – Willier. – I think so. I don’t really know. I don’t know why I took you up on that. – We’ll find out on Saturday. And then on Sunday, Dan and I, I don’t know
whether you remember, but we used to be mountain
bike semi-professionals didn’t we, huh?
– And pretty handy. – Yeah, back in 1999. Anyway, basically we think that mountain bikes are now boring, and that is why gravel bikes exist, and we’re going to prove it. – Can’t wait for that one. – Yeah. – Monday we will have
the GCN Racing News show, over on the GCN Racing channel. Tuesday we’re back on the set, but we’ve got a lot more racing for you, coming on GCN Racing, including the final four
Italian one day races this week, culminating Il Lombardia
highlights on Saturday, and we also got live coverage for those of you north of
Central and South America, of Tre Valli Varesine, today in fact. – How are you doing that? Both of them at the same time.
– Suddenly realized this is coming out tomorrow. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it. – It’s time now for Extreme Corner, and as we mentioned at
the top of the show, we’re going to have a little bit more from Chris Akrigg’s new
video called Crossgroads. – I see what he did there.
– Yeah. (upbeat music) – That man has got some skills. – He has. Also fitness. Have you noticed how much he’s sprinting? Makes me feel quite tired, just watching that.
– Oh I think that, that’s cuts in the filming, to allow him full recovery
between each of those sprints. – Ah, so a bit like crit training.
– What we do. – Yeah yeah, I like it. Yeah, right, that is unfortunately the end of the GCN Show for this week.
– It is, yes. If you have enjoyed it, please click on the thumbs up icon, which you’ll find below this video. And in fact, if you
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means you’ll be notified every time we upload a new video. – Yeah, also, I just want
to get our cankle as well. Just a reminder of the GCN cycling club. This is this month’s sock, yes, that you will have got through the post, and you get a new one each and every month when you subscribe. – In the meantime, if you
would like to see another video from us here at GCN, you can find Si and Ollie
comparing a hyperbike to a super bike, just down here.

100 comments on “The Worst Things To Say To A Cyclist | GCN Show Ep. 352

  1. Caption: "Maintaining a proper balance between hard training and riding for fun is a vital concept in pro cycling."

  2. What gets me going is when a much younger cyclist says that he hopes he can climb like I do when he is my age! My response is to make him wish he could climb like I do NOW.

  3. I learned about the usb zwift hack at defcon this year here is the speech – the implications can also effect things like strava KOMs and many other aspects of computerized biking.

  4. Phrase that cyclists HATE…"SINGLE UP!!!" As a cyclist I utterly despise cyclists who ride 2-3-4 abreast and refuse to single up for traffic. You selfish bastards! Share The Road goes BOTH WAYS and so does RESPECT!

  5. I do triathlons and marathons too. I want to cycle more. Just moved to uk (2 year visa). Need a cheap bike and a group of people to do it with

  6. Cam Jeffers broke an un written rule of cycling only – because when he got the tron bike the rule he broke had not been written yet. Also how about highlighting that all of the riders should have been on the same equipment or had the same equipment available for the race?
    On the day of the race it was all even and supervised and he was drug tested as well.
    Further BC also DQ him earlier for publishing race footage of the local Preston crits.. I almost believe that they appear to be grinding their axe against him for some reason?

  7. #askgcntraining I've been curious for awhile on what the minimum amount of training is in order to maintain fitness or increase only very slightly. I have a 2-year old and a baby due in a month and I'd like to simply not lose fitness over this season of life.

  8. TRIATHLETES HAVE FEELINGS TOO!!! The "you realize the rider ahead of you is a triathlete… nice to get a bit of warning to give him a bit of space…" lol. classic. That @#$% is cold lads… good vid.

  9. A few comments like what an ugly colour, about my classic steel bianchi(with blue pearl no less) !?! Of course people with class appreciate It!

  10. will GCN do a test to see how many watts rubbing rim brakes add? Three different amounts of rub. Same for Disc. Thx.

  11. I think the Cameron Jeffers situation is ridiculous. He was the strongest rider when he won the championship, Tron bike be damned.

    Very flimsy application of authority in this case given the fact that Zwift allegedly actually gifted the same bike to several other riders in the same race.

    Lying about your weight, manipulating your power, or actually doping would represent actual cheating in the race, whereas stealing the bike you used to win the race shouldn't.

  12. I wish I had a good road bike or gravel bike so I can ride it to work, fitness, or just a fun bike tour. 😔😔

  13. #askgcntraining – my wife and I are looking to get started using Zwift to improve our cardiac fitness for the road – what would be a cost effective setup? We have a couple of older bikes that we can use as a permanent setup, so leaning towards a second hand first generation Kickr if we can find one at a reasonable price, but it's a minefield trying to find a viable solution without spending a ton to get started

  14. #askgcntraining my commute to work takes about 1.5 hours and I often take the train home, I've got limited time on a weekend to fit in a long ride, and so would commuting both ways (total 3 hours) have a similar benefit to riding for 3 hours straight on a Saturday? Or is the full 3 hour ride still more beneficial (e.g. if I'm training for 50-100M TTs/Gran Fondos)?

  15. Tried downloading the app, can't find it in the play store, also that link is not working. When will you make it available?

  16. Why aren't all bikes the same speed in a Zwift race. Your making the watts or your not. A different avatar shouldn't be faster than another in a bike racing game when its being treated as a real competition with real consequences.

  17. 'road tax' is the obvious one….but im getting to the stage where I feel sorry for these people that say it cos they haven't thought it thru….but everyone is sensitive….call a vehicle driver a c*nt and they get real irate, real quick….lmao….

  18. What? You spent a hundred dollars on that bike part! From the wife, on trying to upgrade my 10 speed bike to a new tiagra compact crankset… sigh.

  19. Worst thing you can say to a cyclist: Re bikes, 'how are you finding that frame I heard they kept having issues with…'.

  20. yes i'd like Dan to wear that kit for the next show. However, please put in the title that he will be doing it so i can skip that episode 🙂

  21. There is a LOT of cheating on Zwift in particular weight and height doping. Some people change their weight by as much as 15kg for climbs v TT. Zwift power picks up some of them but this is used a lot to adjust W/kg so they can compete in lower categories and win.

  22. #ASKGCNTRAINING In most cases it must be easier to increase your w/kg by losing weight as opposed to gaining power. What format of training promotes the most efficient form of weight loss?

  23. Wow Dan's curtains from the 90's…could use those to close the show 😂😂 (I didn't have curtains like that as well….honest)

  24. Following the upload link, this messag occured … :" To upload your media we require you to log in via the Play Sports Network sign on service. " … and there I stopped

  25. Disappointed you glossed over the ban Cameron Jeffers was given as he seems to me to have given a penalty far beyond any advantage he got from rule he supposedly broke. He got the Tron bike (that basically everyone else in the finals rode) months before the rule was in place so this was applied retrospectively in this case. I can’t see how having everyone on the same bike gave him any advantage. His ban applies also to all racing not just e racing again seems rather unfair. Would have been good if you covered this in a balanced way so we can get your actual opinions.

  26. Remember hearing this great story about a race, in South Africa I believe. A competitor rides alongside another and says your looking good. However the athlete then just cycled past. Breaking the athlete who had ‘been going well’

  27. When you’re getting ready for an upcoming race and they say you’ll be ok to walk around town the day before the race shopping and wasting energy doing absolutely nothing!

  28. 6:30 i heard literally non stop about my mtb… But i take it easy 😀

    Will be there also GBMN app or something like that?

  29. Gcn training question. When using zwift. Should I do the cadence that they say or should I do what feels natural to me. Sometime I feel there say to spi to face for me and over times I feel it's to slow. Is there a reason they say for this cadence or is it just a guide?

  30. It seems that the most hated comment said to me is "I see you made it!". I always reply with "when haven't I made it?" I'm not usually DFL, so I can't figure out why I hear this so much.

  31. Hi guys. Because of holidays and some problems with my health, my fitness level has dropped down pretty hard. 3 months ago my FTP was 285 and I'm sure it's not above 200 at the moment. How would you reckon to get back on track asap? My goal would be to join a Zwift race (A cat) before the end of the year. Thanks! #AskGCNTraining

  32. Can I nominate that tweet/photo of Froome back on the bike for GCN Inspiration? Because getting back on the bike after recovering from that crash is absolutely inspirational.

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