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Too Extreme? What’s The Limit For Bike Racing? | The GCN Show Ep. 298

Too Extreme? What’s The Limit For Bike Racing? | The GCN Show Ep. 298

– From a seriously windy crossroad in the middle of nowhere,
just south of Dublin, welcome to The GCN Show. – Welcome to The GCN Show, brought to you by our
mates over at Wiggle. – This week we’re asking whether the thirst for extreme is going too far. – We have got the best
comeback since Michael Jordan, kangaroo danger– – And a shocking revelation
about brown cycling shorts. – They’re (bleep). (energetic electronic music) This week in the world of cycling, we learned that super magnesium
might be the new carbon. Allied debuted this new frame
over the Interbike Trade Show, and they claim that it’s a
third lighter than aluminum, and also the most eco-friendly
metal in the world. – Partly Dan, because
apparently magnesium dissolves naturally and without trace, which is not the perfect trait for your expensive new bike frame, but hopefully it happens
over a long period of time and not just after a wet ride.
– Yeah, fingers crossed. We also learned this week
that despite the fact that we’ve been taking the
piss out of Ag2r’s team kit for well, quite a number
of years, haven’t we, it appears that brown shorts
may now be acceptable, or so say super hip clothing
company, Team Dream. – Look, brown. Don’t believe us, here
they are again, brown. – So brown shorts are absolutely fine, as long as they are
brown when you buy them. – Right okay, changing gear very much now onto something far more serious, and that is that also
in the news this week was the inquest into the
tragic death last year of ultra-endurance cyclist, Mike Hall, who was hit by a car whilst
in the closing stages of the Indian Pacific Wheel Race. – Yeah, he and 190 other competitors were in the midst of riding
the five and a half thousand kilometers across Australia. For the vast majority of them, it was for a sense of
personal achievement. But up at the front it
became a fierce competition between two of ultra
cycling’s best competitors, Kristoff Allegaert and Hall himself. – Yeah, I think it’s important
to state, isn’t it, again, that as we film this,
the inquest is ongoing. But in early news reports from there, one phrase has really stuck
out and jarred for many of us, which is that the event was actually compared to a Hunger Games on wheels, which is frankly a
pretty crass comparison, as well as showing a serious
lack of understanding as to what ultra-endurance
cycling is all about. – For those of you not
up with your pop culture, Hunger Games is fictional
reality competition in which people are asked,
and forced, in fact, to compete until the death until there’s just one person left. – Yeah, whereas, as if
you need explaining, ultra-cycling is about
personal achievement. It’s about doing something extraordinary, but entirely voluntarily. I don’t think there are many
people in that community that are seeking fame or
fortune through it, are they? – No, it doesn’t seem that way. From the outside looking in, ultra-endurance cycling
could seem inhumane, particularly if you are somebody that couldn’t even comprehend why on earth you’d want to do something
like that in the first place. But is it, and could it ever be inhumane? I mean, there are more and
more events popping up, and they do tend to try and compete for the mantle of the
hardest, the longest, the toughest, or in some
cases, the most remote. – Yeah, it’s funny, isn’t it? There aren’t all that many
sports that can do this, like become extreme. You don’t get extreme football or extreme basketball
or extreme athletics. The 100 meters is the 100 meters. Whereas in cycling there is this ability to constantly push the boundaries. And you’d think that the further those boundaries get pushed, the more dangerous it
could potentially become. – Yeah, there’s no doubt
that ultra-endurance cycling is an extreme sport. But it’s not necessarily a good example of increased danger, is it?
– No. – Yes, there have been a number of fatalities over the last few years. But then again, one of
those fatalities occurred just hours after the event had started. – Yeah, I mean, there’s
no suggestion, is there, that the fatalities were in any way linked to the difficulty of the event. But the question of whether cycling events are too extreme is asked of loads of other disciplines
in cycling, isn’t it? Like BMX and mountain bike freestyle. Those guys are having to go bigger and higher than ever before. Like a backflip is not impressive. You now need to do three on the trot. A front flip isn’t impressive either. It needs to be done
over a 60 foot gap jump. I believe we’re up to quad tail whips now. The first one was done in
competition just the other day. – Even trials riding can get extreme. Brumotti is a very good example of that. – [Simon] Oh my word. – [Dan] You kind of can’t
help but watch his videos, but you do so with your
heart in your mouth, don’t you, as he’s teetering
over the edge of an abyss. But his videos do go viral, so he is kind of achieving fame from it. – Rebel Rampage or Rebel Hardline. I mean, do those riders feel a pressure to take increased risks? And if so, where does
that pressure come from? – Well, perhaps that
question should be posed to someone who’s qualified
to give the answer. I shall leave that in your safe hands whilst I go and make a cup of tea. – Right, whilst Lloydie has
gone to make us a cup of tea, his shoes are being more than ably filled by Blake Samson from GMBN. Now Blake, you’re kind of
described as a freerider, which to most GCN viewers
probably doesn’t mean very much. So what is it like, massive jumps, big drops on a mountain bike? – [Blake] Doing stunts, going upside down, going off crazy stuff in the mountains. – Okay, so you are well-placed then to fill us in on the pressures that an athlete like someone
doing Rebel Rampage faces. Is there a pressure to go bigger and to put yourself at risk? – Yeah, nowadays there’s a
lot of people going massive. You got high-end riders
like Red Bull and Monster and all those high-energy
sponsored riders. They’ve gotta fill those boots. They’ve gotta make sure
they are pushing the limit. They gotta stick themselves out there, basically, so they get noticed. – So does that mean then that you’re stood at the top of a massive jump or whatever, you know that you’re at
more risk but you go, I tell you what, I gotta do it anyway because I gotta pay the bills. – Exactly, yeah, you
gotta do what you gotta do to pursue the evolution of freeride. You gotta push yourself. You gotta make sure you’re
innovating the sport. – So at some point then you have to, this job’s not for me anymore. – Yeah, you get to a
point where you’re like, I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to send myself
down this crazy 50 foot drop, something crazy, that gap, huge gap. – That happened to me, you know, I once made that decision, many moons ago. But what happens if you
take the money out of it? Do you still get people
willing to risk it all, just for fame and infamy? – Yeah, well you got the famous Rebel Rampage happening, coming up soon. And there’s a number of
young talent coming through that are willing to
put it all on the line, just to show off that
they can actually do it, that they want this big deal,
they want to be the best, they want to put down a
crazy run down this mountain. And like I said, they will
just throw themselves into it. And I know four guys that
kind of will do that, and they’re pretty talented to do it. – [Simon] So they’ve got the skills, but they also appreciate they’re
putting themselves at risk. – Oh yes, yeah. Like last year, two
riders, high-end riders, kind of pulled out ’cause it
was a little bit too gnarly and they thought their life was at risk. Hands down, that was a good call because it is not for the
faint-hearted, that’s for sure. – Cheers, Dan. I mean, you’ve actually got
a first-hand experience, haven’t you, of putting
yourself in harm’s way for the benefit of entertainment, now that I think about it.
– I have. – [Dan] I didn’t really want
to do those humongous jumps that I had to do for that GMBN video. It was well outside my comfort zone. – [Simon] Was it peer pressure, basically? – [Dan] Yeah. – Lucky you walked away
from that, isn’t it? Now, an event that you have done as well, and ironically, has always been considered the ultimate test of human
endurance, the Tour de France, almost definitely isn’t
that now, is it, really, with the rise of ultra-endurance cycling. Tour de France is getting shorter. It’s potentially getting safer. It’s entirely on closed roads. The riders are so well looked after, all they have to do is pedal and steer. – Yeah.
– All they have to do. – I mean, there’s no doubt there are still inherent risks with being a
pro cyclist, aren’t there? Flying down mountain descents
and even getting involved in bunch sprint finishes
is not without its dangers. But they do have to get involved in order to stay competitive and at the front of the
general classification. That said though, like you mentioned, Si, there are quite a lot of safety measures in place for the modern pro peloton. And with new protocols, such
as the extreme weather one, I think they’re pretty
well protected these days. – Yeah, and it’s quite
ironic, really, isn’t it, when you consider that
actually there were calls to make road racing more exciting. Like add more gravel or steeper climbs, generally create more pain, until you wonder then,
where that would lead us. – Well, I think that events
like the Tour de France, most professional cycling events, will remain pretty similar
over the foreseeable future. Because they do share something in common with a lot of other popular sports, in that the level of entertainment
is not necessarily linked to how extreme the sport
is that you are watching. As for truly extreme sports though, that might just be human nature. – Yeah, or maybe the
nature of some humans. Because doing something
extreme in pursuit of fame and fortune is nothing new, is it? I mean, it’s as old as humanity. We’ve got legends of the classical era. We’ve got the heyday of
adventuring in the late 19th, early 20th centuries,
right up to the present day where you’ve got extreme
nutcases like Felix Baumgartner. I mean, even Mark Beaumont
to a certain extent. For me I think those
people that are willing to push the limits of human endeavor should absolutely be allowed to do so. The only time I think I’m gonna feel uncomfortable watching them is if somehow that lure of fame and fortune
feels like it’s too strong, and actually someone
is taking bigger risks than they otherwise would
be willing to do so. How you know whether they’re being lured by fame and fortune, I don’t know. But that’s when I– – It’s a very interesting
subject, isn’t it? And as ever, we would like
to get your thoughts on it. Do you think that some cycling events are beginning to get a
little bit too extreme? Or is it simply a question
that’s being asked of human endeavor that
has been around since, well, since humans started endeavoring? – Yeah, leave comments in the
comments section down below. (triumphant music)
(drum reverberating) – It’s now time for cycling shorts. – We will start Cycling Shorts, unfortunately, with some bad news. Your next bike could
be 25% more expensive. – I’m afraid it could, and
this is because recently, Donald Trump approved
tariffs on Chinese imports to the tune of $200 billion worth. That includes within that amount of money, bikes, frames, and accessories, et cetera. Initially that tariff will be 10%. But already by January the
third it’s gonna be up to 25%. – Hopefully though our headline star is scaremongering ever so slightly. So rather than the whole bike
being 25% more expensive, potentially manufacturers
could only pass on the levy that they’re paying
onto us as the consumer. But whatever way you look at it, things are gonna get a
little bit more expensive. And that’s annoying. – We could try and find
a positive note to this. – Oh? – That is that smaller US
manufacturers might now be able to compete a bit better
with some of the big guns. – [Simon] Well, that would, I suppose, be the point of it in the first place. – It could be even worse
though, for the UK after Brexit. – Yeah, should we leave
politics to one side? – Yes, probably. – Sticking with the UK
though, actually very briefly, we have another person attempting
Land’s End-John O’ Groats, which is the length of the United Kingdom. I appreciate these stories kind
of 10 a penny at the moment. But this one is a little bit different, because Baz Bignall is attempting it on one of the London public hire bikes. Yeah, that’s right. And also whilst raising money for Great Ormond Street Hospital, he’s also added in a
couple hundred kilometers’ extra detour to go via London. – I reckon he’s done that
so that he can dock his bike temporarily and cut down
on costs a little bit. Must be racking up a fortune, that. Now, if you’ve never
been to London before, those bikes are heavy, to start, and they’ve only got three gears. It’s a tough old challenge for him, there’s no doubt about that. Well, on the flip side, they’ve
got some great mud guards and a nice little place to
put your bag on the front, which is really handy.
– Perfect. Over to Austria now, where
the World Championships kicked off on Sunday
with the team time trail. And not just winning,
but winning in style, were the Canyon SRAM team. I mean, check out those Zipp
disc wheels for a start. – Yeah, not just the disc wheels either. They’ve got matching overshoes to boot. Would miss them coming along, would you? They’re very bright indeed. And apparently that was the
last trade team time trial, at least for the time being, because from next year
onwards it’s going to be done with national federations,
rather than the trade teams. Fair enough, in some ways. But apparently they’re going to be combining the men’s and the women’s time from a particular nation to
give us our overall results. – I’m not sure I like the sound of that, to be honest with you,
it feels a bit gimmicky. I want to know who the best men’s team is and the best women’s team, not the team that’s
been let down the least by their counterparts. – Adds some pressure, doesn’t it, because I’ve let down quite
a few people in my time, and they’ve always been
quite upset about it. – Yeah, I’d say you
probably let yourself down on a few occasions.
– Oh I have, yeah. And I was upset about that too. – Yeah, fair enough. Right, now winning the
men’s were team Quick Step. And actually, they had yet
another double day this season, because Philippe Gilbert also won the GP d’Isbergues on the
same day, which incredibly, was his first race back
after breaking his kneecap in that frankly horrific
crash at the Tour de France. – That’s really quite the
comeback from Gilbert, that, isn’t it?
– It is, isn’t it? Such a comeback, in fact, so pleased was he that
he took to Instagram and with this photo apparently
appears to be placing it on a par with comebacks of Michael Jordan, Pele, and also Muhammad Ali as well. – Wow.
– Yeah. It’s quite the comeback.
– Yeah, it is quite. I’m sort of a little bit
lost for words, really. I mean, that’s a little
bit like us comparing our big win over Jens Voigt on Zwift to the downfall of Miguel
Indurain in ’96, isn’t it really? – Well, I mean, it kind of was on a par, wasn’t it, with that? – I’m beaten square and fair. – I guess it was, yeah.
– And I mean, you know, just like Miguel Indurain, Jens hasn’t really been the same since. – No. – Although unlike Indurain, he
remains genial and pleasant. Jens is, well, he’s been a bit aggressive towards us, hasn’t he? – I know, didn’t take it
all that well, did he? – Not really, no. – I’m starting to wish that I’d put an Instagram post up of us winning and then Miguel Indurain next
to it as a comparison, really. – It’s not too late, mate. Throwback Thursday.
– Yeah, I’m gonna do that. No, I’m not. Right, a couple of weeks
ago you may remember that we featured a kangaroo crash that was captured on a cycle at Canberra. Well, apparently it was
just the tip of the iceberg. – Well, that’s right, because according to some Australian newspaper reports, the dry conditions are drawing the macropods out of the bushland. And according to the ACT
Parks and Conservation, they’re anticipating that
there will be upwards of 5000 collisions with
marsupials in just Canberra alone. That’s double the number of
collisions from last year. So stay safe out there,
Australian friends. – Make you use your camera in Canberra. (laid back electronic music) It’s time to get a little bit excited now, because we’ve got a brand
new giveaway for you. And it’s a double header,
coming from PEdALED and Brooks. – That’s right, so following on from the short series of urban-related videos, we have three complete sets of city cycling kits to give away, including the Kanaya
jacket, the cycling chinos, the Tokyo polo shirt,
the Attakai wool jacket, even a pair of socks, Dan, the
Dario socks, and a T-shirt. And then on top of all that,
each winner will also get an amazing Pickwick rucksack
from Brooks as well. – [Dan] That is quite
the bundle, isn’t it? – Oh yeah, super cool.
– You can put yourself in with a chance of winning. All you need to do is follow the link, which will be in the description
just below this video. And we just wish you the best of luck. – Absolutely, keep those fingers crossed for you.
– Great prize indeed. Now we’ve got some winners
to announce today too, five of them, in fact, of the
Fizik 2019 shoes and bar tape. They being Jamie Debrum, Chris Rides, Wouter Mrofcynski, Jozelf Marsala, and Ernest Pipiles over in the US. Well done to all of you.
– Absolutely, congratulations. Can I just say that on a personal note, can they let us know what color
bar tape they’re going for? There were some mega colors in there. I want to know if someone’s going for fluoro pink or fluoro orange. How hip are you, you five winners? Right, we’ve got one last
lucky winner to announce. So a few weeks back, ta-da,
we had a Facebook competition where we were offering one of these amazing fan jerseys up for grabs. And the winner was, let
me just double check, Luke Wotten, so well done to you, Luke. This jersey, or one in your size, will be winging its way to you. Congratulations.
– Well Luke will be choosing the fluorescent yellow bar tape, won’t he, to go with that. – Well, I’d go for, if
you’re going down that line, I’d go for fluoro pink, mate. Just boom! – This is why you’re not cool, Si. – Well now, yeah, there are
many reasons why I’m not cool. – Especially saying
boom like that, blimey. (laid back electronic music) – It’s time now for
our Weekly Inspiration, which is sponsored by our
friends over at Wiggle. All you need to do is submit your inspirational cycling photos to put yourself in with
a chance of winning one of three voucher amounts to spend on the Wiggle online shop. 100 pounds in first, 75 pounds for second, and 50 pounds for third. Two options to do that. The hashtag #gcninspiration
over on Instagram or just use our uploader,
the link to which is in the description below. – All right, Dan, we’ll get straight on with the podium, shall we. And in third place we have got
this one, sent in by Chase. And it’s from San Francisco, California. He says 5:45 a.m. group ride. Ride hard up Mount Tamalpais. Regroup, catch the sunrise
and the stunning view of the coast and of San Francisco. And I’m absolutely blown away by the shot. Particularly, I hadn’t even
noticed it to start with, the fact that you can indeed see San Francisco in the background there. That looks awesome. And do you know what would
be even cooler about that, Dan, is if went and did that group ride. Because of the jet lag, we wouldn’t even have to get up at 5:45. It would be like the
equivalent of lunchtime ride. Wouldn’t that be amazing? – We’d have had our porridge
at one a.m. wouldn’t we? – Yeah, pretty much.
– We’d be well ready for that. One of the good things
about living in a city which is covered by
smog is it’s quite nice when you get out of it, isn’t it? – I’m not sure that’s smog. It’s a famously foggy place. I went for a ride the one
time I went to San Francisco, and I saw zero of the Golden Gate Bridge other than what I was cycling over. No views, nothing, anyway. – [Dan] It’s not even golden. – No, it wasn’t. – Right, second place
this week is from James. This is his B’TWIN bike, just beyond the Whiteleaf Hill Climb, which was at the start of this month. Noticed the sunlight through the trees and stopped to enjoy the
moment and the end of summer. – Oh, I absolutely love that shot. That’s so cool, isn’t it? The only slight frustrating thing there is it’s his road bike. And imagine if he was
on a cycle cross bike. He’d just cruise off through the woods. That’d be great, wouldn’t it? Anyway, a deserving second
place for you, James. Congratulations. But there can only be one winner. – 100 pounds of Wiggle vouchers winging its way over to Adrian, who is on a Batavus bike over
in Wroclaw over in Poland. I just looked up how to pronounce that. Still got it completely
wrong, couldn’t even remember. Anyway, good job it’s on screen. Lovely photo, but he’s just riding around hoping to get home before the sun sets. And that is a great photo.
– So cool, that shot isn’t it? That sums up, well, the long-lost summer that is just rapidly
leaving us here in the UK. But there we go, I think
that’s fantastic, anyway– – I wonder if he’s gonna share his prize with the photographer. His having a photographer
is obviously a coincidence. Anyway, let us know what
you do with your vouchers, whether you split them or not, and indeed what you spend them on. – That’s a dilemma, isn’t it? Yeah, and if you want to take part, of course all you have to do is as Dan said at the beginning, was share your photo on Instagram with a hashtag #gcninspiration or send it straight to
us via the uploader, the link to which is in the
description beneath this video. – He’s gonna say to his
photographer, isn’t he, did you watch the GCN show this week? No. Yeah, I wouldn’t bother. Not worth watching. (laid back electronic music) – For Tech of the Week, we are as ever gonna head
over to our workshop. – Thanks, guys. Well, this week we take
a look at four examples of bike tech that was
better back in the day, plus we take a look at
a new hub, new shoes, your upgrades, your bikes,
and a whole heap more. Join us on Thursday for the GCN Tech Show. (drill whirring) – Looking forward to this. Haven’t done it for a couple of weeks. It’s Hack forward slash Bodge of the Week. We’re gonna kick things off with this one from David Peralta. “I made a wooden bracket
to hang my Zwift TV “on my mechanic’s stand clamp.” Job well done, I’d say.
– I tell you what. – [Simon] I think that
pretty cool, that, isn’t it? – [Dan] Yeah, neat job done there too. I’d say that’s a hack. – Yeah, you know what, I
think it probably is a hack. – Always gotta go in for
a mega-close inspection before you put your seal
of approval on anything. – Yeah, I think you should be
thorough about these things. I mean, there is that
question mark in my head about why you don’t just
put a bracket on the wall that TVs are supposed to be attached to. But I suppose you can’t
move it around then. – Yeah, well since I can’t do either, I’m still saying that’s a hack. – All right, next up,
now here’s one I can do. This is from Rob Evans. He said he’s not sure if this
is a GCN hack or a GCN bodge. But it was definitely a super nice. See what you’ve done there, Rob. There we go, that does look
super nice, doesn’t it? – [Dan] Maybe it’s cheesecake? Let us know, Rob.
– It’s not UCI legal if tube braces were all out of whack. – Next up from Iida. Ikea bag hack. Well, he’s made a rather neat
job of an Ikea bag there. I think that’s about as good as you can do with one of those things, isn’t it? – [Simon] To be fair, that’s some pretty nifty bikepacking luggage there. I’m not entirely sure whether an Ikea bag is the best fabric for that job. But still, you know. It’s not bad.
– I’m pretty impressed with – [Dan] The way he’s fashioned
it neatly into his frame. – [Simon] Yeah, with a zip, too. – I’m giving that a hack. Do you want to take a closer
look at it, to do it yourself? – Hack, yeah. – Right, next up we’ve got
this from Mr. Outdoorsy. – [Simon] This I think, I’m not
even going for a close look, Dan, ’cause I know what this one is. I think it’s an amazing hack. – [Dan] Right, need to park
your bike at the cafe pub and don’t want it to roll away or fall? Use one of these
wristbands as a hand brake. Keep it on the water bottle
and it also stops it rattling. – A handbrake! Like you know that feeling
of you lean your bike up against a wall and you turn round and then five seconds later you just see it going
(imitating metal scraping) and you’re scraping the edge
of your expensive saddle all the way down some abrasive wall, maybe your bar tap as well. All it needs is a hand brake. – Yeah, I just turn mine upside down, put it on the saddle and the hood. Next up from David, minor accident, broke new carbon handle bars. Fixed with a piece of two centimeter by two centimeter wood and gaffer tape. Got me home 32 miles.
– Wow. Well, you know what, that is the essence of a bodge, isn’t it? But one that gets you home 32
miles, fair play to you, Dave. – Yeah, I guess we can hack forward slash good bodge bad bodge. – Yeah, basically.
– Rename the segment. Good bodge got him home. – Yeah, but it is, isn’t it? It’s a get you home. That’s good that had that amount of gaffer tape with you as well. ‘Cause the amount that I’ve got wrapped round my little mini pump is probably– – I’ve always got that long of a piece. I have a two by two right
in my back pocket as well. We’ll say bodge, but a good one. Right, that’s the end of
this week’s Hack or Bodge. Use the hashtag #gcnhack to post your pictures up to social media. Or again, you can use the
uploader to put them there. We’ll go through a whole
host more next week. – Sorry mate, he could’ve used an inner tube to wrap that with and then he’d have had
suspension handle bars. Imagine that.
– Always thinking. (laid back electronic music) – It’s that time of the show now, where we show you a comedy photo, or a normal photo, in fact, and you have to give us a comedy caption. First of all though, we’ve got, obviously, the results of last week. This was your photo. And the winner was Enrique
Figueroa, who said, “Wheely curls, upper body
workout for GCN presenters.” – Very good. – Yeah, it’s gotta be a lightweight front wheel though, for me to do those. Anyway, you got yourself a
GCN Camelbak water bottle. So there you go. – You do so with your
old mountain bike wheel, don’t you, Si, lifting them up? This week’s photo, this one from the Eurometropole race in Belgium. Mads Pedersen was the winner. I shall get you started. See you at midnight, Mads. See what I did there?
– I do. – Thankfully, it’s not our task
to give a humorous caption. But hopefully you lot out there
can do a lot better than me. Sorry.
– Yeah. State your caption in the
comments section down below and we will find the best one. – It’s midnight mass, but
it’s cause his name’s Mads. – No, yeah, I got that. – And he’s drinking, so he’ll
probably be out ’til midnight. – Yeah.
– Sorry. – That’s all right. (laid back electronic music) – We’ve been reading through your comments over the last seven days. So before we let you know
what’s on the channel over the next seven, we’ll read
out three of our favorites. The first two came underneath
Emma Does Cyclo-Cross. J Bratt said, “I found
cyclo-cross made my bum hurt. “Maybe it was from getting my ass kicked.” That’s a good one. Phil Lentz said, “No, no, no, Emma. “Don’t let the CX people corrupt you. “Stay pure, stay on tarmac.” – Wow, you know Phil was
in the minority there. Most people, actually
in the comments section, seemed to think that Emma
will be world champion in cyclo-cross by February. And you know what, having
seen the determination with which she’s practicing and the fact that she’s really quite good
at it, they’re probably right. – She can do what she wants,
as far as I’m concerned, now that she got the
Worlds prediction wrong. I was pretty pleased about that. – Good point, very good.
– Kind of relieved. – Right, now last week on the GCN Show we asked you to list some of
the things that you thought perhaps were going
extinct, cycling skills. But Dave The Dog Dude replied that actually he thinks
the only thing he’s missing by having gears for
spinning while climbing, instead of grinding on
a 42-23 is knee pain, which yeah, I mean, that’s
fair enough, isn’t it. I was wondering whether or
not people were missing out by not grinding up hills
and apparently not. – Not on much, by the sounds of it. Right, coming up this week then, on Wednesday another cyclo-cross is back. So for the fans of that, make
sure you tune in for that. A double-header, actually, for that, because we’ve also got the
World Championships preview. – I’m so excited about the
World Championships, Dan, I can’t even tell you. – Well, good that we’ve
got two videos in sight. Because on Thursday we’ve got our top 10 coolest world champions of all time. And on Friday it is Ask GCN Anything. – Is Emma in that one, by the way? We’d better put her in, hadn’t we, so she doesn’t get upset.
– On Thurs, Friday, it’s our, no Thursday, it’s our top 11 coolest world champions of all time. – Wicked. Yeah, Friday, as you
said, is Ask GCN Anything. So make sure you get your
questions in for that. Saturday we have the first of our core routines for cyclists, which is done by one of
the top 11 coolest riders of the World Championships
of all time, Emma Pooley. And then on Sunday it is my own
personal KOM challenge, Dan. And also on Saturday, the
day before, of course, you can see the bike that I’ve used for that over on the Tech Channel. So make sure you check
that one out as well. – He’s pretty nervous
about his KOM challenge. – Yeah. – Thankfully, brown shorts
are fashionable again. – Yeah, and there’s some really
good weather apps as well. (upbeat rock music) Now we don’t want to be seen to be encouraging ever more extreme behavior, but it is, Dan, isn’t it,
time for Extreme Corner. – Thankfully, this Extreme Corner from Simone Temperato
is not that dangerous. (upbeat rock music) That was wheelie good, wasn’t it? – You know what, I think that
is pretty dangerous, mate. Imagine laying that down, coming to a stop at the traffic light.
– Not life or death, is it? Well no, he was going
up a hill, wasn’t he? – He said he rode like seven kilometers. – Yeah, uphill, 16 Ks an hour average. – I think maybe–
– Well, maybe it was a little bit dangerous. Maybe I’m doing him a disservice. – I think so, yeah. – I think we should move on anyway, Si. We’ve spent a lot of time on this. – ‘Cause basically what you’ve done is said that he’s not extreme enough, and actually to get real
praise on this show– – He’s just had his laptop up close, analyzing things again,
to deem it hack or bodge of whether or not it’s extreme or not. – I just don’t want anybody
to try anything harder, Dan, for the sake of entertainment. – Before we finish with
this week’s GCN Show, we would like to give a
quick shout out to our shop over at We’ve got a few things that
will keep you warm, if, like here in the UK, things are
getting rather cold outside. First up, we have got long sleeves in both the pro team kit
and also the fan team kit. So there’s something for everyone there. – That’s right, and also on
the casual side of things, many of you were commenting last week that you spotted the
jacket that I was wearing. And that is indeed new. That is available for pre-order in black and also red as well. So make sure you check out that too. – You looked pretty hip in that, mate. – Oh thanks, mate.
– I’m joking. Right, if you haven’t seen
Si’s video from Sunday where he went behind the
scenes at the Oakley HQ over in California, that is
a very interesting watch. So if you haven’t watched it already, make sure you do so now, it’s down here. – Yeah, and give this video a big thumbs up if you enjoyed it.

100 comments on “Too Extreme? What’s The Limit For Bike Racing? | The GCN Show Ep. 298

  1. The extreme MTB have started with Josh Bender. He was crazy and near always he fails but he didn´t care, nex time he tried a bigger jump with the worst reception ever … and jumped and crashed againg. New World Disorder rules …

  2. Extreme racing is what the original Tour de France was supposed to be all about. Didn't Henri Desgrange say the ideal race would be so hard that there would be only one finisher? I do agree with Dan that it isn't the extreme nature that dictates our level of interest but I do think the Tours should cover a lot of distance.

  3. I think the biggest come back of all time is Greg Lemond in 1989 – win the Tour de France and the world championship after two years off because of a shot gun shot in the back!

  4. Caption Quote: On Victory, you deserve beer.
    On defeat, you need it. Napoleon B.

    Mind Thoughts….Please let the comity allow me to keep this bicorne. It makes me feel so thin.

  5. I think in organised events/races there should be periods of time where no competitors are allowed to ride. Depending on where the ride is and it's daylight hours, it might be no riding from 9pm-5am for example. That would force sleep and increase the safety of such endurance events.

  6. As MotoGP star Marco Simoncelli once said: "You live more for 5 minute going fast on a bike, than other people do in all of their life."

  7. Drink up, it's arsenic-laced beer, you'd be Mads not too OR Eurometronapoleon caught napping OR Eurometropoleonic style finally defeats Sky's metronomic method

  8. If you look at all sports, then you see the boundaries being pushed. Whether it's football with the skills that the players have now compared to 20/30 years ago eg. Ronaldo and his patented step-over move. Or climbing, the ultimate risky sport!!! things like the fastest ascent of Everest or speed climbing on indoor climbing walls, or free climbing (without ropes). It's just us as humans, we will always strive to go bigger, higher, faster! It's in our​ DNA!

  9. W – rot – slav is the way to say it Dan!!! I'm a Brit living in Poland and I can tell you the place names are a serious challenge!!!

  10. I really miss when tech of the week was an actual tech highlight, rather than just John repeating what the show is about.
    Maybe he could deliver a highlight of the show rather than a plug for it, and go more in depth on the tech show?

  11. Caption:the face you pull when you misunderstand what the announcer means when he says "let's try to get the people to come en masse"

  12. Lovely video but I am getting more than slightly annoyed by your all-male give-aways. You do realise that you also have female viewers? Why not ask the companies to provide both sets? And maybe also get some more women specific stuff in your shop?

  13. The birth of extreme bike jumping can pretty much be blamed on Evel Knievel and our skateboarding friends. Evel because he achieved fame and fortune for his ramp-to-ramp motorcycle jumps and the skateboarders because they figured out that an empty swimming pool with its vertical walls was great for getting air. Put that together and soon enough freestyle legends like Bob Haro were dropping jaws by flying straight up on big ramps and getting big air for the cameras of BMX Action magazine and soon enough that became a craze of crazies doing their thing on BMX bikes and it was a beautiful thing. And it still is but yes, there is a limit and that limit is personal and it is pretty much when you get injured badly enough to say, you know, it is time to call this a day. And the end of my big days of bike stunts came in '81 in Frankfurt where I was stationed as a young soldier and rode my bikes a lot–and I had spent my high-school years in Frankfurt so it was like my second home, California first and then Frankfurt. And in the city itself in '81, there was an undeveloped patch of land with a huge drop which overlooked a parking lot for a supermarket–I think it was a supermarket but it was a popular store with lots of customers who could look over and see some crazy stuff on BMX bikes and motocross motorcycles. And I had a red-and-gold Redline BMX bike and I had that drop dialed like a big-wave surfer–I'd fly over the ledge, land on the rear wheel just about at the bottom, slam the front down so hard that the bars would jerk back a bit, force 'em back up at speed, and ride a loop back up to the top and do it again and again. And it was great to have a crowd of shoppers and groms on their bikes watch me. But one afternoon, a guy on a motocross bike was coming up like a hillclimber as I flew over the ledge and I had no idea he was there. The groms didn't warn me. And I would have centerpunched him if I had stayed on the bike. So I kicked out and dropped like a stone down the drop and cut my forehead open and tumbled to the bottom and that was that for me. But I healed–just have a couple of scars–and I was fine with that ending. I had been a big jumper. And from there I got a Batavus road bike and started romping up and down the Taunus Mountains. And I was an extreme descender. It was too much fun.

  14. 2:16 comparison to Hunger Games also misses the whole point of the Hunger Games book/movie and other similar movies like the 2000 Japanese film Battle Royale that the game was something no one wanted to compete in and the primary conflict to overcome was the whole system that put the player in the game and avoid killing / playing the game

  15. Caption: when you are out drinking with your buddies and then you meet your trainer and he says: “Is that beer you are drinking?!”

  16. I’ve been a fan of ultra endurance cycling since the RAAM started some decades ago
    In the eighties we lost the first and only competitor who attempted it 100% unsupported and the race made mandatory a follow vehicle.
    I love the idea of riding transcontinental and I might do it someday
    But not in eight days
    That’s nuts

  17. You people got it wrong with your view on the tariffs being raised by Trump. It's been a trend by companies to sub their manufacturing to nations where the labor is cheap. What does this do countries like that. Look at China's environment for one thing, those people are killing themselves and ruining the land. In the short term they are thriving but long term what's going to happen and what kind of world is it going to be for their children. They work their asses off for low wages and you all feel good about it because you get cheap bikes. Other parts of the world like here in the USA we get lazy as fuck and don't want to work or care about producing anything anymore. There has to be controls in place for balance or some parts of the world are going to suffer. GCN ran a funding promotion not long ago for bikes for an impoverished community in Africa I think it was, I ask why do you care about those people more than other countries where people are really in a hurt? How can you feel good about supporting all the manufacturing of the world being done in places just because those people are so desperate they are willing to work for such low wages? It's wrong. I don't like having to pay more for things I want or need but in the long run it is better to have manufacturing jobs come back here in my own country and get people doing something more with their lives than becoming alcoholics and drug addicts. We have become so lazy here in the US that it is hard to find people that are willing to do physical work in the manufacturing sector. I ask you broaden your minds and take good look and learn about what's really happening around you before you go crying about your bicycle prices going up.

  18. I think the mixed-gender TT is awesome news. If it works it could be a way to finally address the huge pay and investment gap between men's and women's cycling. Right now there seems to be a much bigger variation in performance between top female riders versus their male peers (presumably due to the fact that the female talent pool is much smaller due to low pay and underinvestment in women's teams – they just don't have as deep a bench of truly top-level riders). This means that any team looking to win a mixed-gender event can maximize their chances by investing where there is the greatest chance to improve performance – the female riders. This will make female riders the most important part of the team. If teams are forced to value women riders equally, or even higher, than the men – even if only for a few TTs – the ripple effects for the sport could be fantastic.

  19. Hi GCN Team, I've recently got in to cycle again – commuting to work here in Thailand and your video's have really helped me to learn new things as a beginner cyclist and making my rides more enjoyable. Thank you for posting great videos! By far the best cycling channel online! Warmest regards, Al

  20. Re the extreme. Money or no, some people will and always have just pushed the envelope of their particular sport. I think this will always happen money or not. In fact you may argue that most of the extreme stuff out there started with no money or fame seeking involved.

  21. I mean… how can ANYONE give you guys a thumbs down… and as I post this comment there are 24 of them (as I currently weep). You are AWESOME!

  22. Ironic that, after so much talk about safety, you have a give away of ultra low-visibility gear that makes you almost invisible in the bad weather it’s designed to be worn in.

  23. Mikes death was tragic however to have people on an open public road pushing themselves over the limit is not fair to anyone. On a closed road with medical and safety measures in place both the competitors and the public are as safe as possible.

  24. Red Bull looks insane to me but who would watch it otherwise. DH and Freeride events extreme and as a rule next one will be more extreme then previous.
    Road riding events are for pussies. I ride in New York every day as well as tens of thousands other people and we don't call ourselves extreme riders. 
    Long distance ridings is not extreme it is same as short distance just longer.

  25. Escalation is part of human nature. Our brains are wired to seek out newness and novelty, and much like addiction, it takes a stronger and stronger stimulus over time to get the same level of enjoyment and satisfaction…which is why we have teenagers dangling themselves off of tall buildings now. 😱

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