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Tour de France & Eurobike Tech Special | GCN Tech Show Ep. 28

Tour de France & Eurobike Tech Special | GCN Tech Show Ep. 28

– Welcome to the GCN Tech Show. As ever, we’ve got a
whole heap of tech that’s launched for you this week. As well as that, Si and Oliver,
they’re over at Eurobike in Germany, which is a
humongous trade show. They’re gonna be bringing
you their latest in tech from there, too. (upbeat instrumental music) Seeing as it’s the week of Eurobike, and while I’m not on the
ground there but your bike has all the hottest and
latest tech releases and launches, Si and Oliver,
they’re gonna bring you now some of the nicest things
which they’ve seen. – Thanks John, we’ve had
an amazing few days here at Eurobike. It’s been loads of fun as well. And we’ve seen loads of
absolutely awesome tech. – Yeah, we’ve had to hunt for it, though. In total we think we’ve walked
between us, 88 kilometers over the last three days up
and down the exhibition halls. But we have uncovered some proper gems, a lot of them which you
may have already seen on a video that went up
on GCN and on GCN Tech. But there is still more to come as well so make sure you stay tuned. – Yeah, and it’s fair to
say that most of the big bike brands have not been here this year. But I don’t consider
that to be a bad thing because it’s meant that
there’s a lot of space been freed up for smaller brands. I’ve been really happy
to see loads of things that quite frankly I’ve
just never heard of before. – Airstream for me is an Austrian brand. It’s actually been around for 10 years. I’d never heard of it before but the bikes looked absolutely fantastic. Then another one, this is
a completely new company, Except, which is a brand
that works out a way of create completely monocog,
custom, carbon frames. They’ve patented the technique behind it and that should be something
that we look into more. – [Oliver] Something that
caught my eye was a bike called the Plus One from a brand, Vielo. Now they’re a small,
British boutique brand. I really like well firstly, the paint job. But also that fact that it
was a really functional bike so you got 650B wheels, hidden mounts, hidden frame protectors,
and some really neat one-by drive train. – Hey, I’m glad you’re talking one-by, because now John Cannings
isn’t here I can full go to town. One-by has been for me,
the kind of hidden story of Eurobike. Firstly, 3T and their
Strada, that was the bike the caused quite a lot
of controversy last year. An aero road bike that could
not be used with a front derailleur, had to have
a one-by drive train. 3T weathered the storm
and then a year later they’ve released the Due
which is the same bike but with a front derailleur mount. I was kind of struggling
to get my head around this because I’m a bit of a fan of one-by. Apparently, according to
John Veruman, the designer, he said that they had
always intended to have a two-by model as well which
left me a little bit reeling and questioning the
whole future of one-by. But we didn’t have to question that hard because Rotor launched in
there we their one-by 13 drive train which is proper call. So make sure you check that
one out over on the GCN video a bit earlier. – Also I was really interested to see the Merida Warp TT bike
that has been designed specifically so that
you can actually turn it into a one-by bike, one-by TT bike to make it more aerodynamic If you’re on a flatter stage. – You can go up hills on
a one-by bike as well. No, but it’s true because
they again, Veruman was saying that their 3T Strada Due
is eight watts slower than the one-by version. They’ve produced a two-by
bike but he said yeah, but if you want it’s eight watts slower. – That’s incredible front
derailleur and double chain ring, eight watts. – Aero is another thing
here, isn’t it really? Quite a big trend at Eurobike. – More specifically we need
to talk about aeropods. – We should probably explain aeropods. – Aeropods are basically
a way of turning your bike into a wind tunnel and
we’ve got one right here. This is an example, this is
call the No Show Connect. But there are several
companies at Eurobike this year who’ve brought out similar
products so it’s definitely something that’s really
about to take off, we feel. Now what this has the power
to do is turn your bike into a wind tunnel. That means that we’re
bringing aerodynamic testing, wind tunnel testing, to the mass market. – Yeah, so I think, correct
me if I’m wrong, Oliver, is the way it works is
by effectively measuring the wind speed up front with
that little kind of petotube. Then it pans with your power meter. From that it can then work out– – Your back (voice is muffled). – Exactly, so the possibilities
for GCN does science are almost endless. Have you got glasses? – Science glasses, I don’t
know where I’ve put them. – No, I don’t know where mine have gone. Back to you, John. – 88 kilometers of walking. Wow, they’ve been busy, haven’t they? Hope they’ve had some
nice comfy footwear on. Otherwise, they’ll have some blisters. Anyway, more tech for you later on. Now I must say I do get a
little bit lonely in here from time to time. I’ve brought in Emma, I’ve
gone and grabber her politely, and I’ve got her here for
this little section here because I think she’s gonna be a great little asset for this. – Thanks John, well I would
have like to have come to the whole tech show. But sadly I am not qualified
because I know very little about tech as you all
have probably gathered. But this is exciting to me. This is about bike fit and comfort. – Let’s talk briefly, last
week I asked the question which of these key components
would someone sacrifice if they were going to buy
themselves a new bike? Would it be the weight,
would it be the comfort, or would it be aerodynamics? What would you go for
if you had to lose one? – Depends on racing or
training, so training I would definitely sacrifice weight,
so heavy training bike. Train heavy, moves light. If it was racing then in terms
of kind of fluffy comfort I would sacrifice that. But it would depend on my
comfort in terms of injury. Anything that is an
injury discomfort problem or saddle issue, I do
not like saddle issues. Yes that’s how I’d do it. Aerodynamics, I don’t think
if we’re talking body position I think that’s always quite important. But the bike less so. – Let’s have a look then
at what some of the viewers have said because it was
quite a split decision really amongst them. Everyone has their own
thoughts on these things and that’s what we absolutely love. First up, Sweet, who says
if it’s a bike for training, scrap weight, which is spot on. If it’s a bike for racing,
scrap comfort which yeah. – I agree. – There are certain bits
of comfort that you end up forgetting that your legs hurt. You’re focusing on other things. – [Emma] Maybe it’s good
if you have a sore bum from your saddle because
the pain of your legs is less relevant. – That’s true actually,
I’ve never thought about it that way. I’m not sure you want to put
nails through your saddle or anything like that. – It’s bad enough, anyway. – Cyclops70, sacrifice aero,
the biggest aero difference is the rider. And comfort means they can ride further. If it’s painful, I’m less likely to ride. – Good point.
– Spot on. – And it’s important to
remember that like most people want to ride their bike
and they don’t really care whether they go fast, you’re not racing. No, just enjoy riding your bike. Comfort is very important. – Just want to be so
comfortable on the bike because if you’re not, you’re
not gonna want to ride. Gordon Moat, light weight,
they’ll go to the bathroom before they ride. Aero, they’ll wear more form fitting kit. Comfort, yes please. They obviously watched
your video about going to the toilet. – About going to the loo, very important. – If you struggle with
that, drink lots of coffee. – Yes, and do some star jumps. I think the going to the
toilet thing is partly comfort and partly weight. If you ever had to ride
your bike, needing the loo desperately, it’s pretty horrible. – It’s absolutely awful. – These things are important
even though they’re not often discussed. – Gino, don’t need lightweight,
I live in the Netherlands. – Ooh, what do you reckon? – That’s no exactly true, is it? – No, because weight, this
is a common misconception that weight’s only important for climbing. But every time you accelerate
weight’s important. Every corner you come out of,
and if you’re racing crits for example and you have to
slow down in every corner that makes a big difference. But I agree that traveling
around without too much technical stuff, weight’s
not that important. – No, especially if
you’re not jumping around, accelerating, decelerating,
that sort of thing. DeXe, finally, comfort goes for me. 25 plus millimeter tires
will do the job on any frame. Don’t let Simon Richardson
hear you say that. He’ll preach to you that
28s or above are the option to go for. – I agree, I love y 28s. I can run quite a lot of tire pressure. Very comfortable, low tire pressure. – [John] I’m so happy with 25s, 100 psi. But I’m slowly converting,
I’m slowly converting. Anyway, this week then let’s
talk about how long it takes for riders to become
comfortable on a new bike. Because a friend of mine over the weekend he asked me how do I
manage to switch between so many different bikes and
how do I remain comfortable? It’s not quite as simple as that, is it? – No, I think it’s quite
difficult actually. Back in the day I would have been racing, I’d have a training bike and a racing bike that were set up exactly the same. I put them next to each
other and adjust everything to be exactly the same
with the spirit level and a tape measure. Then ride them around the
block one after the other until I couldn’t tell the difference. Nowadays I get to ride lots
of different bikes for GCN, which is really cool. But they’re totally different. They’re different brands,
different geometries, different wheel sizes. I have a 650B, and a Trek
700s, and Aubere 700s. There is no way that they
are going to feel the same. I haven’t even honestly gotten
the position quite right on all of them yet just
because just haven’t gotten around to it which is awful. But the thing that I notice
most is not the saddle height usually, but it’s handlebar
widths and the size of the hoods. That feels safety quite a lot
and fix the cornering feel. But with two bikes of
the same frame or similar I think it’s sometimes
takes quite a while. – It does, I think for me
personally for me it takes quite a while because
psychologically I’m always thinking that something’s not right. That’s actually a really
big hurdle for some people. – [Emma] You said it takes you six months. – [John] Yeah, up to six
months it has in the past. Your constantly fiddling
around with things. Saddle, cleat position for me is one. The saddle position and
cleat position is two things which I just, I mean if I
was given a centimeter longer stand centimeter shorter, I’m
not that fussed about that. It’s more about the saddle
height and the cleats. I guess I’ve had a bike
fit and they told me everything was spot on. I was really happy with that. – Do you find that when you
change shorts, for example, you have to change your saddle height? I know riders that if you get
shorts with a thicker chamois they have to put their saddle down. – I have noticed a
difference with a couple of different chamois. I tend to want a chamois
which is really basic, not huge differences. You get some that have
different density of the foam, that kind of thing. Then it becomes an
absolute nightmare swapping between shorts. But I guess let’s have
a couple of polls, then. Let’s have one, have you had a bike fit? Up there, vote yes or no. Then we’re gonna put
a few options up there for how long it takes you
to get used to a new bike or swapping between, that kind of thing. It would be interesting to
see those results won’t it, to see how long it takes the viewers. Next week we’ll have another hot topic. Last week at the Tour de France
I got up close and personal with a brand new Specialized
S-Works Venge from the Peter Sagan collection. That’s right, he has his
own collection of bikes. How cool is that? Anyway, this bike is a
significant improvement, in my eyes, over the previous
model, the Venge Vias, and not only in looks
because I think the other one didn’t really look that great. Instead, it’s actually
saved 460 grams over its predecessor which quite
frankly is astonishing. Now the majority of that
weight saving is actually come from the frame. 260 grams and then the handlebar set up has actually saved over
100 grams compared to the previous model which again
is a big old weight saving. Visually it looks good, too. But it’s not all about
that lightweightness, because get this, it’s
eight seconds faster over 40 kilometers. I mean that is at zero
degrees, head-on into the wind. But apparently out on the
road it is faster still, too. There’s weight savings, it’s
faster, what’s not to like about that? As for the color of it? Well I think it looks
great, but a couple of his teammates and Peter himself
were maybe a little bit on the short end, believe it or not. Peter even asked me what I thought of it and I said it looks spot on. Go ahead, race it, maybe win a stage. Oh, and he did so it’s got
the Canning stick of approval. Now sticking with aero, Trek
have officially announced their new disc brake bike, their Medone. I got to check out John
Degenkolb’s new bike so if you haven’t already
seen that make sure you do give it a watch. What’s so cool about this
bike for me is that it comes with ISOspeed. What’s that though? Basically it’s a system
where you can adjust the compliance of the frame. Basically adjusting it
using a little slider underneath the top tube
to reduce road bar, something which a lot of aero
bikes do tend to give you quite harsh ride. If you can adjust it a
little bit just to give you maybe a little bit of a softer ride, that gets a big thumbs up from me. That bike also features a new handlebar and stem sets up. The previous Medone had a
one piece integrated bar and stem so you’re limited
there with any adjustment whereas this one has a
two-piece set up so you can actually rotate the bars
around if you so wish. The cables out they still
remain fully internal and hidden away which always
looks fantastic on a bike, keeping it nicely integrated too. Underneath the bottle
cage on the down tube there’s actually a plastic
insert which houses the battery inside of the frame. Using the new seat post
system with the ISOspeed, it basically wasn’t able to be done. But in this case they managed
to accommodate that battery really well. I must also mention the
paintwork on that bike. There’s red ones, but the most cool of all has to be the white pearlescent finish with the red detailing. I even had riders from
other teams tell me how fantastic they thought it looked. Who am I to argue with that? Yeah, Deggy, he’s one lucky bike rider. Another new bike this
week is this from BMC, the Time Machine Road. Amazingly this is the first aero road bike that BMC have launched. They’re a little bit late to the party but they have made an
impressive entrance nonetheless. Now the tube set is designed
to be a perfect blend of aerodynamics, weight and stiffness. Built within these tubes is
something I’ve not seen before. BMC have partnered up with
Elite who are renowned of course, for their bottle
cages and water bottles, and have integrated water
bottles into the frame, therefore giving a slightly
more aerodynamic profile to the bike. Now don’t worry, if you
don’t want to actually use those bottle cages you can
put standard ones on there. But I imagine at a detriment
to the aerodynamics. This is what is super
interesting is the bike’s actually got integrated storage
pouch which can be removed if you are racing a UCI event. That fills the void in
between the seat tube and the down tube. Inside of that you can
actually put a few spare little items which I think
is a nice little addition to such cool looking bike. Sticking with integration,
have a look at that on the four click. They’ve made an aerodynamic
cover for that disc brake caliper just to try and
cheat the wind a little bit more efficiently. As well as that they’ve also
got a brand new handlebar stem and seat post which
have all been designed with aerodynamics in mind. Personally I think that
is a big old statement to enter the aero road bike game. Well done, BMC. Another new bike that was
under wraps, a literal wrap at the opening stage of the Tour de France is this from Ridley. It’s the brand new Ridley Noah Fast. This one’s with disc brakes. It does also come with a
rim brake version, too. Many of you will be happy to hear of. The bike itself has been
completely redesigned from its predecessor. They’ve done that on the four collects, the front you can see a
couple of little wings, they call them, behind the drop ax. Basically that’s gonna
smooth the wind flow or any turbulence coming
off of the front hub. Keeping it nice and smooth
also is the addition of fully internal cables. Ridley claimed that you can
actually change a standard cable or an electronic
cable in under two minutes, something which home mechanics I’m sure, will be jumping with joy
because some of these bikes with internal cables can take
quite a while to fish out from internal of the frame. This was the first time that
the Campagnolo disc brakes have been used at the Tour de France. I seem to remember Adam Hansen
using Campagnolo disc brakes at one of the grand tours last year. But yeah apparently Gripe
was a big fan of them so there we go, a first. Finally with aerobikes there
is a new TT bike from Merida. I was lucky enough to check it out. While stalking the mechanics
here at the Tour de France I’ve just come across
this, a brand new bike, Merida Time Warp TT. I don’t know much about it, to
be perfectly honest with you because well, this is the
first time I’ve seen it and the mechanics are
working away frantically in the background building them in time for the Tour de France. Interestingly, one of
the biggest differences between this and the previous
model is here between the top tube and seat tube joint here. We’ve got it nicely filled
in and I particularly like down here between the
down tube and seat tube is where the DI2 settings,
junction box is actually placed in there. Rear derailleur as well, that’s using a direct
mount hanger this time. Also importantly for me, at least, using vertical drop outs as
opposed to rearward facing horizontal, which for mechanic
in the heat of the moment during a time trial, puncture
can be an absolute nightmare. That gets a big thumbs up from me. The stem in front end of the bike does look super sleek, too. I particularly like it, it
does look really aerodynamic and super fast compared to the old one which looked slightly more
industrial compared to this one. I reported last week on
Mitchelton Scott using some new Pirelli P Zero tubular
tires at Tour de France. I was lucky enough to get my
grubby little hands on one and I was able to check it out. So here we are. Just managed to get my grubby
little hands on one of these, a Pirelli P Zero Velo tubular tire. Now Mitchelton Scott, they
are going to be using them for the first time in competitive racing during this year’s Tour de France. I don’t know a lot about
these tires admittedly. But the tread pattern
is quite minimalistic and it’s got quite a cool look to it, to be perfectly honest. Of course it’s got a
cotton base layer there for the glue to adhese
nicely onto the rim bed. It’s pretty lightweight, too. The actual inner tube, it does
remind me of another brand there as well, too. But it’s always interesting
to see another tire manufacturer burst onto the market, nice. Now I love a pair of cycling shoes. I’ve got loads of them,
nearly as many of them as I have bikes. But these are Mark Cavandish’s new kicks for the Tour de France. Apparently he’s taken
inspiration from the foot boots used by footballer Renaldo
back in the 1998 World Cup. While they certainly do
stand out don’t they, I’m not sure how comfortable
they’re going to be with that kind of knitted sock upper. But well if they’re good enough for Cav, then they’re good enough for
most of us, let’s face it. Let me know though, what you think of them down in the comments. Are Cav’s shoes hot or not? Now if you want the bling of
the bling with home trainers then you need this. This is the Furopiester from Elite. As you can see it doesn’t
look like a standard home trainer at all, does it? Instead it uses wood, it uses glass. It looks, it wouldn’t look out of place in your living room or your office, or who knows where? It’s not the sort of thing
really where you would want to get it dirty. Or certainly I wouldn’t,
not at a price tag of about $15,000. Now it can be linked up to your
virtual training apps, too. So if you are in the market
for one and you’ve got some cash to splash,
maybe that one’s for you. Now something a bit more
conventional when it comes to home training but new
nonetheless and from Wahoo, over to Si at Eurobike. – Wahoo have got a whole load
of new stuff on their stand starting with the legendary Kickr which has just been
redesigned not externally which is a good thing in
my book, but internally. We’ve now got a bigger flywheel. It’s now 16 pounds. That’s very roughly about
eight kilos and they reckon it will generate up to
two-and-a-half thousand watts resistance. Then also redesigned the internals. They say now it’s virtually
silent to the extent where technically you
could use it in a library. Up front we’ve got the Kickr Climb. Now we saw that last year,
had a good look at it. But just in case you didn’t
know, it basically changes the gradient of your bike. So anything from minus
10 to plus 20 percent, so for that real Zwift experience. But then another new part
that’s out which I love is just up here. This is called the Kickr Headwind, okay? This is a smart fan and
you can set it in one of two ways. You can either sync it
up with your trainer, so via amp plus. You can set it so that it
will increase the wind speed depending on the speed
that you’re riding at. Basically the faster you go,
the more cooling you get. Just like the real world. Or you can actually sync it
up with your heart rate strap for an amp plus. So the harder you try, the
more wind is going to kick out. Not quite finished yet with
Wahoo because there is this which is the new Kickr Core. This is a brand new direct drive trainer. It retails for about
$300 less than the Kickr, but it goes in a little bit
higher up than the Snap, which is where you keep
your back wheel on. It’s a little bit more
basic in some respects but not many it’s fair to say. The flywheel is a little
bit smaller to 12 pounds which very roughly is about six kilos. There’s a little bit of assembly
required out of the box, there’s no cassette on that. But the important things like
the internals are the same. Again this one is now
virtually silent as well. Library proof, that all
important characteristic. – Something just as cool and
in my opinion a real icon of Tour de France history
are these two new jerseys from (foreign words). They’ve relaunched or
reissued those jerseys of the Peugot BP Michelin squad, of course famous for having
British rider Tom Simpson as well as Eddie Mercks in the squad. And also the La Vie Claire jersey. Both of them have a huge
place in cycling history. I totally love them. Oh hold on a minute, Si and
Oliver, they want to talk about bike fitting, something they’ve seen at Eurobike so they
must have been watching that segment earlier. Over to you, guys. – Right, before we leave
Eurobike, we really mean leave Eurobike because we’re
about to miss our flight. We did want to tell you about Smartfit. – Smartfit is a company
that’s actually won a gold award here at Eurobike
so they’re well deserving of some recognition. Now they’ve devised a
couple of systems to do with bike fitting that
could really change the way we all buy bikes in the future. The first thing is an
online tool that you can use if you buy a bike through
an online retailer. It enables you to predict
the size of the frame that you’re going to use
by what’s gonna be best for you using some complex
algorithms based on your height and your arm length and your leg length. – [Si] That’s all you need
to do is measure your arms, legs, and height? – And this is based on
loads and loads of data that they have collected and
combining with some maths. It means it’s a much more
accurate way of doing it rather than, it takes the guesswork out, rather than if you do it
just by looking at sort of a geometry chart. – You also told me that
you had been laser beamed this morning. – I have, yeah. The other system the have
is something that they would actually put in a bike shop. But the amazing thing about
this compared to any other sort of bike fitting or sizing
tool is how quick it was. I had to stand on a platform,
then they measured me with lasers. What this did is it
measured my arm length, it measured my height, and
it measured my inseam leg. In doing that it was able
to tell me what size bike I want, but not only what
size within a specific brand or model I was interested in, it could tell me the
saddle height I should set on that bike and the stem
length, and the stack pipe. – [Si] Now did it work? Did you test it out? – I actually did test it
out by saying my actual bike that I currently have ’cause
I know how that’s set up and I’ve been bike fitted
to that in the past. It came out astonishingly
accurate for saddle height, that it said was bout
three or four mil out. Only three or four mil out
of what I actually have. Now that could just be down to the fact that I’m wearing jeans and I’m
not wearing cycling shorts, but the stem length was spot
on and the bike frame size was spot on. That’s like how? It was amazing. – That is cool. – I’m going to use it to get
my presenter bike as well. – Right you hold on now,
I’m just going to quickly run back and get measured up, okay? I’ll see you later alright? – See you in a bit. – Finally check out
this from Boa and MIPS. A MIPS liner inside of a
helmet is designed to reduce any rotational impact in
the unfortunate instance of a crash. Boa, they’re used to adjust
and fasten your shoes onto your feet. By putting it into the helmet,
essentially you can have a 360 degree adjustment of the retention of the helmet as well as
getting that MIPS liner fully adjusted to your head. I think that’s a great little bit of tech and I think in the future
quite a few companies will be integrating that into
their helmet as currently nobody actually does
that with a MIPS liner. Well done, anyway more
tech for you next week. Competition time we’ve
got two lucky winners of the Topeak PakGoX bike boxes. First up, Richard Mitton of Great Britain. Next up, Mick Stewart of Australia. Congratulations, we’ll
be in touch very shortly to arrange the shipping
of those bike boxes. Happy traveling. Last week I inducted the
Royce titanium bottom bracket. This week it’s time for
something which was revolutionary at the time and was used
by so many pro riders. It was an alternative
to look clipless pedals and also toe clips and straps. It’s time for the time
range of TBT pedals. Now these pedals were
known for the huge amount of float that there was. Essentially allowing your
feet just to have that travel and movement to eliminate any sore knees. When I moved to them from
toe clips it was basically like riding on ice, but
without the slippery-ness. So what was the downside of them? Well there was the weight of them. The lightest pair came in at 351 grams and the cleats, 102 grams a pair. The cleats were made of brass. Certainly the biggest
benefit of these pedals was how close you could get
to the spindle of that pedal, so your cleats to the actual
center of that spindle which is 8.5 millimeters which at the time nobody was close to. Sadly though, they did go into
decline which is a real shame because they were so iconic
for quite a number of years. Remember to leave me your
suggestions for the wall of fame down there in the comment section. Who knows, maybe I’ll pick yours. Last week we put head to head
that brand new Cannondale SystemSix Aero. It was up against the Argon
18 of (foreign words). Quite contrasting but
interesting nonetheless. The winner, with 61% of the
votes was the Cannondale. Well done, Cannondale. This week we’ve got
two officially released aerobikes head to head. First up is that brand new
Specialized S-Works Venge from the Sagan Collection
in that kind of teal, glittery paint job. It’s up against the Trek
Madone Disc of Trek Segafredo in that white pearlescent
finish with the red detailing. You know the score by now. Vote up there in the
top corner and next week we will reveal the
results and have two more head to head. It’s now time for the bike
vault where you submit your photos to us and we
rate your bike either nice or super nice. How do you submit them? Use the email address on screen right now. Many of you commented last
week on how I rated the bikes. I was having a little
drink while I was at the Tour de France. Sadly the customs officer
returned the bell of doom to me. Anyway, let’s crack on it shall we with this week’s submissions. Darren Dunn of Darbyshire in the U.K. And this is Darren’s Bottecchia,
an absolute stunner, right? I mean check it out he
has had it refurbished. A full Campagnolo super record group set or I think it’s super record anyway. We’ve got ourselves some
Campagnolo Omega rims, (foreign words) tires,
Delta brakes added on, (foreign words) bar and stem. Look at those deep drop bars. A Regal saddle, spare tubular
as well tucked underneath and check out those. Those are those time
pedals I mentioned earlier. That bike, there is no
other way to describe it as super nice. You’re going to get a ring, a ring of my bell there
Darren because that is an absolute beauty of a bike. Moving on then what have we got? We’ve got a Pinarello Dogma F8. This bike belongs to
Dean Tifull and he’s from Swindon in the U.K. That’s another beauty. I mean that bike has got everything. It’s got gumwall tires on
those Campagnolo wheels, at least I think they’re Campagnolo. Yeah they are, he’s got the 3G rear wheel. We’ve got a saddle back tucked away nicely underneath the saddle
and what does it for me is those deep drop bars,
fluorescent yellow bar tape. (foreign words) group
set, yeah that’s another super nice. Whoa, Mark Jones of Lancashire. This is Chesini and that’s
made of 953, I think it’s Columbus XCR, actually. Columbus XCR stainless steel,
Campagnolo super record. It’s got Edco carbon
wheels, Velo Flex tires. You don’t see many Chesinis
believe it or not, I have one. One of the few. And get this, it weighs
6.8 kilos on the dot. That just goes to show that
steel isn’t heavy necessarily. Yeah, this is another super nice. (bell ringing) Nice one, Mark Jones. Moving on, Raina Sagars, another one here from Lancashire. This is the De Rosa Escape Pinaforina, (foreign words) R8000. That’s a beauty, just look
at the backdrop as well. I don’t know, I hope, well
I’ll tell you what, Raina, I hope you didn’t ride into that barrier. That bit of wood in the
background that you appear to have snapped in half. Nonetheless that bike, it
does come from the Pinaforina design house, they’re in Italy. It’s one of the beauties
out there but you don’t see very many of those at all. That another super nice. (bell rings) Last one and could it be a super nice? Who knows? Roger Watts of Vancouver,
this is a 1984 Chenelli Supercouser with Campagnolo’s
50th anniversary group set. We’ve got a rolled saddle, the
Campagnolo aero water bottle, the gum lever hoods, deep drop bars. That classic red color of those Chenellis. Campagnolo deco there on the top tube. It’s an absolute beauty. There’s nothing more to say
other than you’ve guessed it I’m gonna ring it. (bell rings) Five in a row, I didn’t
think it was possible but it has been this week. You remember as well
to send in your photos using the email address
on screen right now. Include your name, where you’ve come from, some details about the bike,
and importantly a good quality photo of that bike. And who knows? Maybe you will go into the bike vault. There we are it’s almost
time for the end of the show. But don’t worry there’s
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100 comments on “Tour de France & Eurobike Tech Special | GCN Tech Show Ep. 28

  1. Just out of curiosity,…I don't think you guys do this, but, how do you prioritise what gets shown on your video from the plethora of choices at the show? Would your sponsor's products take priority? Cheers 🙂

  2. I believe you had a picture of the wrong Trek Madone paint job in Bike of the Week, based on what you described.

  3. The 2 older bikes what type of freewheel were they sporting it looked like 12-19 on both for size? My guess would be Maillard or Regina? Thanks for another great show John!

  4. Hi Jon . . . thanks so much for selecting my Cinelli Super Corsa for the Bike Vault and giving it a "Super Nice" rating. Much appreciated. What I also appreciate and love is your seemingly inexhaustible enthusiasm for (and knowledge of) all bikes whether state of the art or vintage. GCN is going from strength to strength with its great presenters and great content. Keep it up!

  5. Jon, @14:09 BMC do have an aero road bike, the original TMR01, which was launch around 2015. It used BMC's "tripwire" technology borrowed from their TT bike at the time. It would also seem that Ridley copied this "tripwire" tech on their new NOAH.

  6. I've get annoyed by the bar tapes, if they are too thick, I just dont like it. Its the same with the hoods. Got a shimano one currently, but the campagnolo was far superior for my little hands 😀

  7. It is not true, that this is the first aero road bike from BMC. Even I own one: BMC Timemachine TMR01. GCN has done a video of one:

  8. Maybe it's just me, but in contrast to 18:42, I can't say I'm a fan of tyres bursting, on to the market or otherwise…

  9. i've heard that if you dont wear clip-less then its pointless getting a bike fit. dont know how true this is ???

  10. I'm totally with you Jon, if the seat and cleat position is not perfect I'm not comfortable. When I travel for work I take my shoes, pedals and seat, buy or hire a bike, I know my BB to seat height and I know what length cranks I prefer (between 165 and 172.5). The stem and bar width or drop its not so important, I get used to a slammed long stem or a short high stem and compact bar. I can't get used to (or am constantly adjusting) different pedals and seat height with a saddle I don't normally use.

  11. Weight might matter in acceleration, but aero drag matters more in accelerating. So weight loses again. Anyone who wants to dismiss aero as the rider counts more, that argument is far more applicable to weight. 20% of the drag is the bike, my bike is not 20% of my total weight.

  12. my bikefit-comfort doesn't change over time. it is either go or nogo. than I have to change parts to make it fit. I only have to get used to the way the bike breaks and corners.

  13. You can have the most aero and the lightest bike, but if you don't have have the legs and lungs all for nothing.

  14. If it's the right bike and close in setup, you know immediately. If it's the wrong bike, you'll never be comfortable.

  15. Cavendish is really coming up as a grand tour fashion icon with these Ronaldo shoes. (Am I wrong or did Kanye tweet a picture of his former team kit last year?)

  16. wait a minute Jon, BMC had released the first iteration of TimeMachine Road wayyyyy back in 2011, so you can't really say this is their first and they are late to the party.

  17. All these retro bikes in the bike vault 😍😍😍 all those bikes are stunning, it's just amazing. Only downside is their insane gearing

  18. I go from my steel bike to my carbon and than on to my track bike all feel good all key measurements are the same on my 2 road bikes but track bike is different as it should be but the body knows what its on. By the way John I've been riding the Pirelli P-Zero tires for about 6 weeks now and they are really nice. Don't ask how I got my hands on them can't say. It's all about who you know.

  19. This stuff about changing bikes & noticing different positions WALOC. Get more flexible problem solved.

  20. The Cinelli is by far my favourite! The Campagnolo Aero bottle….
    And btw Chesini is spelled like "Kesini"…not like "Champagnolo" 😘🤙

  21. I have 2 CX bikes (Giant & Specialized) and a PropelAdv Road Bike & I swap riding them all the time with no discomfort at all. The CX bikes are set up exactly the same & the Propel has the same saddle height with a longer reach & more bar drop. All have 172.5 cranks & 42cm bars (shallow compact) both CX bikes have same pedals & I wear same shoes for CX (Giro) & same upper shoe for road (Giro).

  22. That Pinarello was a "nice" at best with the saddle bag and garish bartape. Also, Campy wheels with Shimano drivetrain???

  23. aeropod again. All those fools in F1 wasting the money on wind tunnels and sensors that look like Duga antennae array, when all you really need is a tiny black piece of plastic

  24. POLKA DOT jersey guy's bike has a mind of it's own….just watch that rear tire spin like crazy as he lifts it off the ground following the crash in Stage 8

  25. I had a bike fit when I bought my bike but I’m not convinced they are much help. Since then I’ve slammed the stem 80mm lower, and gone from a -7, 90mm stem to a -20, 140mm one and moved the saddle right forwards and tipped it down. So pretty much completely changed everything they did.

  26. I had a bike fit 4 years ago. Specialized fit protocol. All it did was confirm that I was already in exactly the right spot after years of fiddling.

  27. Man what an edition of the bike vault, all Italian line up.. Stunning stuff.

    Was it just me but was there music in the back group on this show.

  28. Considering there is a UCI minimum weight how do the pros bikes make the cut with all weight savings on the newest bikes.

  29. Dead chuffed to have made it into the bike vault, 😁 cheers guys! 👍

    Emailed my photo in back on 20th May so there's an idea of how long it must take to go through all the submissions.

  30. Ollie! 🤘🏼 Ollie! 🤘🏼 Ollie! 🤘🏼…Si! 🤘🏼 Si! 🤘🏼Si! 🤘🏼 🚲🚴‍♂️🚵🏼‍♂️

  31. Jon, you already went overboard with the 'Super Nice's' last time. Bike's pictured in front of a rare road/grass/manure combo? Background of "Early Garage Door"? Fluorescent yellow tape on a Pinarello? Couldn't find a bit of intact fence? Wherever did they find that special moldy cement wall? =======>> GCN Standards are falling fast

  32. Have you got the name of these Airstreem bikes shown at about 1:25 minutes in the clip? Can't seem to find it on their website.

  33. "Always interesting to see a new tire manufacturer burst onto the market" Not sure about your word choice there Jhon. I'd rather tires to not burst tbh.

  34. Maybe you could talk about counterfeit bicycle tech. There's a video somewhere of counterfeit helmets that fragment after a drop of a couple of feet. It might be good to remind cyclists not to buy counterfeit products off the Internet.

  35. you always say you get a lot of bike photos yet you give a super nice for the same guy from Vancouver two weeks in a row

  36. Wow, every bike in the vault was an absolute stunner this week!! GCN viewers have some damn good looking bikes!!

  37. Having a pitot tube at the front is all very well but unless you have undisturbed air in front of you it's meaningless. You'd better not be riding within sight of any cars or riders ahead poof you, or even any trees/houses etc if there is any wind blowing.

  38. I get you to a bike immediately due to the fact my bikes are very different I have a hardtail mtb, a Italian made road bike and a BMX

  39. Hi Jon, im planing upgrade my free hub I'm thinking to get Chris King free hub i have bontrager aeolus 5 what do i need to get that job done? thanks chris

  40. Jon, Thanks so much for showing my old Bottecchia race bike, made a couple of friends very envious. From the comments there is big love for the retro bikes…the Cinelli was the best btw 😉

  41. I absolutely loved my Time TBT equipe magnesium pedals. In my humble opinion, they were the absolute best pedals ever made.. To this day I refuse to buy anything made by Time since they discontinued manufacturing cleats for these pedals..

  42. That is one nice bike vault this week. Yet all bikes would look even nicer – especially the gorgeous Chesini (btw. say “Ke-sini“, since “CH“ always works as “K“ in Italian) – if the cranks were aligned properly – not parallel to the ground (!) but in-line with the right chain stay.

  43. You can't have women on Technology and bike shows!! thats the golden role! They either don't know anything or don't care!!

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