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What Can Pro Cycling Learn From Formula One? | GCN Tech Show Ep. 43

What Can Pro Cycling Learn From Formula One? | GCN Tech Show Ep. 43

(whooshing) – Welcome to the
(light techno music) GCN Tech Show. – This week, we’ve got
new bikes from Pinarello, plus Factor, too. Also, your upgrades, the Bike
Vault, and much, much more. – As well as our main talking point: What can cycling learn from Formula 1? (uptempo techno music) (whooshing) – What’s hot in tech this week then? Well, first up,
(mellow music) Pinarello have launched two new bikes. First up, an aero cyclocross
bike called the Crossista and an aero gravel bike called the Grevil. I think my Italian pronunciations are quite good, aren’t they? They’re not as good as yours
and Chris Opie’s last week, I must say.
(Oliver chuckles) You sounded pretty, pretty good to me. – Thanks, man, thanks.
– Yeah. Slightly feminine, but yeah.
(Oliver chuckles) – Well, aerodynamics isn’t something that you traditionally
associate with gravel bikes, but Pinarello reckons that
it’s still really important even at those lower speeds. And, to this end, the Grevil
has a number of features, some of which are borrowed from the F10. So, you’ve got aerodynamically
shaped tube profiles and a seat post with a
flat back shapes to them. You’ve also got a concave down tube so that you can aerodynamically
integrate the bottle into the down tube as well. And then also, check out the fork. – It’s using, well, the
curved fork from Pinarello which is pretty much their
signature fork now, isn’t it? Which, when it was first launched, quite a long time ago now, everyone thought, that looks really weird. To be honest, not many
people liked it, did they? But, it’s grown on
everyone, let’s face it. But by using that fork, it
is, in fact, a different fork, and you’ve got an extra
five centimeters of rake, which means increased stability off-road. Important. – Yeah, and perhaps one of
the most interesting features about the Grevil is the
asymmetry within the frame. Now, take a look at
the seat stays of this. So, asymmetry is not something that’s new in bike frame design because a lot of frames
use it, and rightly so. The forces developed by the drive train because it’s on one side are asymmetrical. But this bike, it takes
it to a whole new level. Look how sort of staggered
it is at the back. It’s quite incredible.
– Yeah. It almost looks lopsided, doesn’t it? – So, what about the Crossista, then? – [Jon] Well, Pinarello, again, they’ve sought aerodynamic gains from a cyclocross bike here. – Yeah, thing is, cyclocross races, they tend to average 16
to 30 kilometers an hour and it might come as a
surprise to some people but aerodynamics is still hugely
significant at those speeds so it makes sense to try and
improve that area of a bike as designs evolve. But the Crossista also has
a much more race-orientated, aggressive geometry than
the Grevil, as well. It’s longer and lower in the front. – Just what we like. Now, the top tube on this bike also has an asymmetrical
cross-section, too, doesn’t it? – Mm.
– So, designed to actually help shouldering the bike on your right shoulder in particular. Slightly more comfortable. And just like the Grevil, it’s got 42-millimeter tire clearance. You’ve also got flex tubes for
a little bit of compliance. You’ve also got internal cables,
removable front derailleur, all those things. – Yeah, nice looking bikes, but the thing I’m most excited about is the prospect of watching
some Team Sky rolls perhaps do some cyclocross
racing on the Crossista. – Yeah, Chris Froome, possibly. (Oliver chuckles)
Who knows? Imagine that. Anyway, more tech later. (whooshing) – It’s now time for our
weekly talking point. Now, this weekend, I was
watching the U.S. Grand Prix and this got me thinking: What can cycling learn from Formula 1? – Well, cycling’s already
learned quite a bit, hasn’t it? If you think about the aerodynamics that we’ve integrated from
learning things from Formula 1 as well as the use of carbon fiber. – Yeah, and well, aerodynamic
experts have moved from Formula 1 into cycling. For example, Jean-Paul Ballard, formerly of Sauber, now of Swiss Side. And also, Simon Smart,
formerly of Red Bull Racing, and has then also worked on
SCOTT bikes, ENVE wheels, and Endura skinsuits. – Yeah, but that’s not all. What about that epic grid start
at the stage 17, actually, of this year’s Tour de France? Whew.
– Uh, yeah. I think it’s probably best
we don’t ever talk of that ever again.
– No. – We would love to see cycling
grow as a spectator sport. And, at the moment, cycling
is mainly participant-led. And by that, we mean
that most of the people or a large proportion of the people that watch and follow cycle racing actually ride road bikes themselves. Whereas if you compare this
to something like Formula 1, very few Formula 1 fans have
ever driven a Formula 1 car. – (chuckles) Now, not
everything in Formula 1 can be transformed over
into the cycling world, but a few things can, including cameras. – Yeah, I mean, how awesome
would coverage of cycling be if every single rider had a
camera fitted to their bike? – (sighs) So cool.
– Yeah. And how awesome would it be if those cameras could be
livestreamed during the race and you could pick which one you watched? And how even more awesome would it be if, with that footage,
you could see real-time power, speed, and heart rate
data and things like that to do with each one of those riders? – Yeah, but know that some
riders out there would complain because of the additional weight or the loss of aerodynamics. But if everyone has to have it, then everyone’s in the same
ball park, aren’t they? No one can complain. But what we want to know
is what do you think? What can cycling learn from
Formula 1 or other sports to make it more spectator-friendly? Or is there any technology we can get from other sports out there? There must be some, mustn’t there? – Yeah, if there are any
other sports out there that are light years
ahead of cycling in tech, we want to know what you
think or if you have any ideas in the comments below. – Get involved.
– See you down there. (whooshing) – Now, it’s the time of the year when here in the Northern Hemisphere, we begin thinking about the
dreaded indoor training. But, well, in recent years, it’s been totally transformed, hasn’t it? – Yeah.
– And that’s due to the invention of indoor training
platforms such as Zwift, which personally I’m a big fan of, where you can actually
train, ride, or even race alongside other people
from all over the world in this kind of virtual
world that you’re in. – Yeah, I’m a big fan of Zwift. Now, the team at Zwift have just created (romantic music)
♪ A whole new world ♪ – Oh, I went on that
ride at Euro Disney once. – (laughing) No, don’t worry,
it’s nothing like that. They’ve brought out New
York, but I don’t know, man, it doesn’t look like New York. – No, apparently, this is
New York’s Central Park in a hundred years’ time, so you’ve got transparent
roads, flying cars, big, crazy buildings, all those things. But also, to keep it more
in line with the modern day and the real world, if you like, there’s also some of the
traditional features there, too, including, you’ve also got 10
different routes you can ride so something for sprinters,
something for climbers, and everything in between. – Yeah.
– I like it, actually. The ability to ride somewhere
where you know what it’s like but you’re doing it
indoors, not getting cold. – Yeah, I look forward to riding it. – Yeah, me too. Now, Urbanized Bikes have have launched what they’ve dubbed The
Ultimate Urban Bicycle. Big old claim there, isn’t it? Now, apparently, it only needs
a little bit of servicing once a year, which is a drop
of lube on the roller brake. So, it’s not bad, is it? – Yeah, what about lubing the chain? – Ah, it’s got a carbon belt drive system, so longer lasting and relatively
maintenance-free, too. – [Oliver] Nice, practical. Tires? – They’re solid, actually, so
they’re not gonna puncture. They’re from Tannus, so there is a little bit of give in them but you’re not gonna puncture, which is always a bonus,
riding around town. – Yeah, it’s good that the
objective is maintenance-free. And also, I see you’ve got
internal hub gears as well so it kind of finishes
off the package nicely. – Well, even nicer to finish it off is that internal grab
handle thing down there near the bottom bracket, ideal for lifting up the
bike and putting away in your favorite storage solution. – Nice. Something far, far away
from the urban jungle now is this: the new Factor Vista. Now, Factor is a brand
that’s previously focused solely on high-performance road bikes. And the Vista is their
first effort at gravel, or, well, all-road machine. – Yeah, now, instantly you’re gonna notice that external steerer tube
design on the front of the bike where it’s just been taken over from the Factor ONE road bike that we see. And the mounting on that
is integrated bar and stem and the drops of the handlebars are actually flared out slightly which is a very popular choice, isn’t it, whether it’s off-road or all-road riders. – [Oliver] Yeah. – Now, interestingly, with
this, you don’t have to worry if your steerer tube is
really, really short, which it would be in this case, obviously the way it’s been designed, because you can still raise your stem by using a really clever
internal spacer system. So, no need to worry
about that going forward. It’s future-proof, all different sizes. – Yeah, and it’s got
lots of other features that you’d expect from an all-road bike. You’ve got extra compliance built into those really slender seat stays as well and a removable front Mack hanger. In case you want to run
one-bike or two-bike setups, you can have it all looking neat. And there’s clearance for
35-millimeter tires as well. But, to see more information and see the bike being ridden in action, then you can actually check out Lloydie’s excellent first-look video, which is currently up
now on the Tech channel. (power tool whirring)
(cash register rings) It’s now time for Screw
Riding Upgrades Buy Upgrades where you submit the upgrades
that you’ve made to your bike using the uploader in
the description below for a chance to win a coveted
GCN apron, slash capron, like the one we have here.
(Jon chuckles) So, before we get on
to this week’s entries, I think we need to see
last week’s results. – Yeah, we do, in fact, because it was between two drop
bar conversions, wasn’t it? And the winner, with 61% of the views, was Felix and that beautiful Peugeot. I do like that.
– I like that Peugeot. – Now, get in touch with us on Facebook to arrange delivery of that. (exhales) Right. This week then, mate. Who’ve we got? – Well, first up, we’ve got Justin from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Now, Justin purchased
(mellow piano music) this 2002 Trek 1000 from their local bike shop
collective for just $150 and used it to ride up grades. (chuckles) See what I did there? – Yeah. – [Oliver] After 500
miles of riding up grades, it became clear to Justin that the 16-year-old, entry-level parts weren’t going to last much longer and that upgrades would be required if Justin wanted to keep
riding up grades. (chuckles) – God, Justin. – Justin made an effort to
balance quality, comfort, and price, while selecting new parts. And this, the new 100 R7000, was a perfect fit for Justin’s needs. New wheels, tires, carbon
forks, pedals, saddle, and of course new bar tape completed it. Justin spent less than
$1000 on the upgrades, and Justin’s comfort and performance have both been greatly improved as has Justin’s riding up grades. (lighthearted music) – I’ll tell you what, Justin, he’s a bit of a pun-meister
there, isn’t he? That looks good, doesn’t it? – Yeah, smart.
– I mean, for a start, the bars, they were dangerous before. It really looks great. Not too sure on the big
chainring and the big sprocket but this isn’t the Bike Vault. – [Oliver] Yeah, I do like,
though, just little things, like the fact that he’s now got a saddle and bar tape that matches. Simple upgrade, that,
but an effective one. – Nonetheless, right. This bike is up against
Niko from Bulgaria. (mellow piano music)
Now, a while back, Niko traded their old MTB for this retro German-built Globus 2000 touring stroke road bike. It was in a bit of a sorry state, but Niko decided to turn
it into a cheap little city run-around bike. Niko binned the rack and mud guards and the horrible rubber grips, and put on a new chain. He found some Mavic 700C wheels, fitted them with a pair
of 32mm-wide tires, and binned the old 27 x 1 1/4s. Niko replaced the suicide levers with more up-to-date brake levers,
(Oliver laughs) got rid of the cotter pin cranks, and put on a 46-tooth chain set instead. Removed all the decors and cleaned the frame as much as possible. Finally, Niko fitted some
up-to-date tetra jewel pivots that fit the overall
black-gray scheme of the bike. (sighs) Ah, isn’t that nice, what Niko from Bulgaria has done? – That is mega.
– Bike looks good, doesn’t it? – That is mega!
– Bike looks really good. I mean, still a bit of a
clunky old saddle on it, but comfort is key. But who’s it gonna be, Justin or Niko? Not for us to decide, is it? I mean, we would, I’d
love to be able to decide. But although I don’t,
because I’d feel too guilty. I do always worry about
– No, they’re both great. – upsetting people.
– They’re both great. – I’m not an upsetting kind of guy. – I love the submissions we get for this. – Yeah, absolutely. So please, please,
please just submit them. Even if you bought yourself,
I don’t know, a turbo trainer. Remember that guy a few weeks back who kicked his kid out of the room? (Oliver laughs)
And turned it into a workshop. I thought that was great! If I had kids, that would happen to you. But anyway, who’s it gonna be? Vote up there, top right-hand corner. Next week, we’ll reveal the results. (whooshing) – Bike of the Week time now.
(mellow music) – Yeah, but first up, we need
to announce last week’s winner because, well, it was a
championship clash, wasn’t it? We had the World Champs
bike of Alejandro Valverde, nearly forgot who it was there, and his Canyon Ultimate CF SLX. And that was up against the
European Cyclo-Cross champion of Mathieu van der Poel. – [Oliver] So who won? (smacking tabletop) – The winner, with 53% of the
votes, Alejandro Valverde. – Ooh, it was pretty close.
– Yeah, it was pretty close. I’m surprised he got it. But yeah, there we are. Right, who’s up this week, though, mate? – Well, this week, we have
got the Factor ONE aero bike of Silvan Dillier. – [Jon] Second in Paris-Roubaix this year. – Yeah, it’s got Mavic Cosmic
wheels on it, Dura-Ace, and CeramicSpeed oversized
pulley wheel system on the back. – [Jon] Awesome bike. – [Oliver] That is going up
against the custom-painted SCOTT Foil Disc of European
champion Matteo Trentin. And it’s got full Dura-Ace on it and pretty proud of that white bar tape. Look at that.
– Yeah, that is nice. I do love white bar tape. I tell you what. Have a look at those
bottles in Dillier’s bike. Brown bottles. – Yeah, they’re not brown, mate. They’re clear bottles. He’s just got them full
of chocolate milkshake. – Oh, right, or coffee, you know. Load of espresso’s crumbs,
(Oliver chuckles) imagine that. Anyway, who’s it gonna be? Is it gonna be the Factor,
is it gonna be the SCOTT? Where are they gonna vote? Up there, of course. Let us know. (whooshing) Right, time for the Bike Vault
(lighthearted music) where we rate your bikes
either nice or super nice. But, Oli, tell them, how do
they get in the Bike Vault? – Well, you have to submit your bike using the uploader in
the description below and then if it’s super nice, it gets to go in and Jon rings the bell. – No, I don’t ring the bell
’cause I don’t like the bell. Anyway, where is the bell? Oh, right.
– Why don’t you know about– – Demonstrate how to ring the bell. Or do you want me to do it?
– I wanted you to do it again.
– All right, all right. – (laughing) After what
you did two weeks ago. (bell clanging) – I’m ringing the bell! All right, there we are. I think the viewers have just
right recovered from last time but I do get excited to ring my bell. Right!
(claps) First up this week, we have got Robert from Geelong Waterfront. I do like Geelong Waterfront.
(Oliver laughs) So, if the invite is still open, Robert, we’d love to come out and stay. Right, anyway, this is
Robert’s Octane One frame, Hope brakes, and hubs
with PRO finishing kit. Over to Bridgewood, what do you reckon? Nice, super nice? What, hang on a minute. What is that on the back of the saddle? (Oliver chuckles)
– I know, I spotted that. It seems to be some kind of inner tube just floating in space
underneath his saddle, which I just don’t understand. – [Jon] Robert from Geelong, how have you managed to do that? As much as I do love all
of the other details, you know when you have on external cables, and they do stand out quite a
bit on that bike, don’t they? – [Oliver] Yeah, but he’s
chosen to sort of celebrate them – He has?
– rather than, you know. So I think it’s kind of cool. – [Jon] You know, I
think, actually it is cool because trying to actually
get parts to all match is not particularly easy, is it? – No.
– When you go for colors. What do you reckon? It could affect our invite
out there to stay with Robert. – Yeah, I think that’s
definitely a super nice. – Yes, Robert, I’m gonna ring the bell, but also let us know in the
comments section down below what you did to get that
inner tube to hover like that. (Oliver chuckles)
Clever photoshopping or I don’t know. Anyway, you’re gonna get a
ring of my bell this week. (bell clanging) Right, who we got next, mate? – Next up, we’ve got Kevin
Granville from France. – I think he’s Kevin
from Granville in France. – Oh, right. I like to think he’s called – You could go Granville.
– Kevin Granville. (chuckles) – Right. All right, what bike is it, mate? – That’s the LOOK 695 and he’s got (Jon gasps)
SRAM RED eTAP on it and also some Roval CLX 60 wheels and a Prologo saddle as well. – [Jon] That’s a gorgeous
looking bike, isn’t it? – It’s hiding the day.
– It is really nice. Is that a custom paint job? I’ve not seen that. – [Oliver] I don’t think it is, but LOOK do a lot of nice paint job. I mean, I went to the
LOOK factory recently and, I mean, just seeing how those bikes are put together and assembled, I just got a bit of a soft
spot for their frames now. – [Jon] Anyway, you’re getting
a little emotional there. I think that’s really nice, Pointe du Hoc. – That’s a super nice for me, I think. – Yeah, it’s super nice for me, too. Do you wanna ring it?
– No, you should. – All right.
(bell clanging) Right, next up is Michael. And Michael’s got himself a Giant MCR. – Wowzers.
– Wow, indeed. I mean, this is Formula-1-style, isn’t it? – [Oliver] Bike from the future, that one. – [Jon] Yeah, now these MCRs, I remember them being released. Mike Burrows, the guy behind
basically the compact frame set that Giant launched way
back in the mid-’90s, the Lotus 108 bike of Chris Boardman, Mike Burrows is a real innovator
in the world of cycling. This is one of his designs produced. They weren’t very long here. A mate of mine had one of these. I’ll never forget riding with him on it. It just blew my mind away. Anyway,
(Oliver chuckles) it still looks wild and wacky,
doesn’t it, to this day? – [Oliver] Yeah, do you
know what, though, right? – [Jon] Big old cable loop
on the back there, isn’t it? – [Oliver] Do you know,
I mean, we spoke about weird kind of frames on last week’s show and while I’m all for
innovations, stuff like that, I just don’t like the look
of that bike, I’m sorry. – [Jon] Oh, you’ve upset Michael. – Yeah, sorry, I just
don’t like the look of it. – Well, it has to be a majority. I really like it, but
it has to be majority. I’m really sorry, it’s a nice bike, personally, I think it’s super nice, he thinks it’s nice, but, well, it’s one on one, man, there, isn’t it? Right, next up, Sebastian
from Oldham in the UK. Sebastian, bit of a CruX fan. Two specialized CruXes. Yeah, nice looking bikes,
aren’t they, those? What about the colors? – [Oliver] Yeah, you
know, you can’t go wrong. – [Jon] Matching, near enough. Saddle matching, probably
difficult to tell at this angle. – [Oliver] Yeah, those
are nice tubes, yeah. Personally, I think,
how come he’s got two? – [Jon] Well, you have a spare
bike for CruX, don’t you? I think he said this was before the military or the army
championships of cross. – Right.
– I can’t remember. Anyway, I would’ve liked
them to have been taken in a slightly more picturesque
view than a locker room. But,
(Oliver chuckles) but, there’s a fair few
numbers there, isn’t there? It looks like, to me, that’s the Notts and
Derby Cyclo-Cross League numbers in the background, sponsored by SRAM. – [Oliver] Yeah, Wessex as well. – [Jon] Yeah, Wessex, Eastern
League British Cycling, National Champs, National Trophies. He does quite a bit of
racing, old Sebastian. What do you think, though, mate? – [Oliver] I, personally,
I love them, those colors. – It takes a lot to get matching bikes ’cause you normally always
sacrifice your spare one. But those look spot on.
– Yeah, (mumbles) yeah. – Yeah, super nice? – Yeah, super nice.
– Yeah, super nice. (bell clanging) All right. Who’s next, mate? – Next, we have– – Last one, in fact. – We have Scott Oxley from
San Marcos in Texas, USA. – Another place I’d like to visit. – [Oliver] And he’s got
his Ridley Fenix SL. A Shimano 105 and 11-speed on there. – [Jon] Whew, big bike though, isn’t it? – [Oliver] That is a big frame, yeah. A 58 or a 60 or something.
– Big bike of Scott Oxley. Interesting artwork in the background. Love thy neighbor in the place of a knuckle duster. (Oliver laughs) The place of a knuckle duster on the hand. – It’s like Sons of Anarchy. (laughs) – [Jon] I’ve just been drawn to that. – [Oliver] Well, SL, I used
to have a bike like that. – [Jon] I think it’s a
nice looking bike, that. – I really like that.
– Yeah, nice artwork. Is it super nice? – [Oliver] I would’ve taken
this bike off for the photo but, having said that,
it’s still a very, yeah. – Well, I think you’re erring on the side of caution here, aren’t you?
– Yeah. – And you’re gonna say it’s nice? – Yeah, I think that’s a nice. – Yeah, nice bike, Scott Oxley. And, as ever, submit your photos, please, using the uploader tool. We get literally thousands coming through. And it’s fun, isn’t
it, going through them? – Yeah, I really like seeing the bikes. It’s good. (whooshing) – So there we are,
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to check out the shop, at, to actually go there and buy there. And, well, it’s goodbye from us, isn’t it? And you’re off somewhere now, aren’t you? Where are you going?
– Yeah, I gotta go now, actually.
– Where you off to? – I’m going to Taipei Bike Show. – Oh, enjoy, send me a postcard. – Will do.
– Don’t miss me too much. Well, he’s off.
– Vlog you later. – Vlog you later? That’s the weirdest goodbye ever. Now, remember as well,
check out another video. Just click right here,
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