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What The Froome?! | The GCN Show Ep. 281

What The Froome?! | The GCN Show Ep. 281

– From the racetrack here in Imola, Italy welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show, brought to you by Wiggle. – This week we’ll be talking about an incredible final week
of this Giro d’Italia. Including Chris Froome’s ride
on the Colle delle Finestre and the Giro’s biggest financial
winners and mostly losers. – Yes, there’ve been some
big losers this week. Will you soon need to have insurance to ride an e-bike on roads in Europe? Quite possibly. We’ll be discussing that. Plus we’ve got the winners
of our Assos giveaway and a new giveaway from Topeak. – And if you enjoy this week’s GCN Show make sure you hit the thumbs up button. (upbeat music) – This week in the world of cycling we learnt that riding your
bike to work is good for you. More on that in Cycling Shorts later on. We also learnt that Madrid are soon going to ban all
non-resident motor vehicles from the city centre,
starting in November. So that very shortly is going to be a very cycling-friendly city. – Their public rental bike scheme is already very cool actually Dan, you’ve gotta love a bit of pedal assist. – [Daniel] Oh they’re e-bikes are they in the city centre there? – Possibly, maybe my form was just better back in those days. – Nah, they’re just probably e-bikes. – We also learned that while Sam Bennett is excellent at wheelies and very very good at
winning Giro d’Italia stages, he does not open the dishwasher at home. – No, no this came from a tweet
I put out on Sunday actually which explained that most
pros from the Giro d’Italia would be at home the following day doing some quite normal, everyday chores. However Tara, his fiance, then wrote back saying that she doesn’t
think Sam Bennett even knows where the dishwasher is! – Maybe, just maybe, he’s
more of a traditional kind of sink full of soapy
water and sponge kind of person. – Maybe, maybe. – And finally, we learnt
that it’s definitely not over until the fat soprano sings. – No, that’s right. I mean few people would
have bet against Simon Yates winning the Giro d’Italia
with four stages remaining. However on Stage 18 he
showed a sign of weakness on the climb to Prato Nevoso and in the following day
completely capitulated, losing 39 minutes to the stage
winner there, Chris Froome. – Froome meanwhile was at the
opposite end of the spectrum. His team Sky set a fierce pace at the lower slopes of
the Colle delle Finestre and then Froome attacked
towards the summit, leaving all of his rivals
in the literal dust, still with over 80 kilometres
of the stage remaining. It was bold, it was brave, and
it was the do-or-die effort and I’m not sure that anyone, perhaps even Froome and his team, believed that he could do it, but he did. – He did, most certainly did didn’t he? Not only was he able to solo all the way from there to the finish
to take the stage victory, he’d also carved out enough of a time gap over the rest of his rivals to don the maglia rosa, the pink jersey, for the first time in the race by a clear 40-second
margin from Tom Dumoulin. It was an incredibly gripping
stage to watch, wasn’t it? Action at the start, action in the middle and then suspense and excitement right through to the very end. The sort of stage that gets etched into the history books of cycling and looked back upon for
years and years to come. Some people compared his exploits
to those of Fausto Coppi, the Italian cycling
legend from decades ago, whilst others compared it to the exploits of Floyd Landis in 2006. – [Tom] And therein lies the problem because we all know Landis’ story. The miraculous comeback which
appeared too good to be true was too good to be true and he was later stripped of the result. – And I completely understand
the scepticism of cycling fans and the annoyance at not
being able to perhaps fully celebrate some of
the most epic performances in the sport in the modern day. I mean even Froome’s
participation at the race at all has been controversial hasn’t it? Because we, he and everyone
else is still awaiting for a final decision
on the salbutamol case where he had an adverse analytical finding from the World Tour last year, but even if it wasn’t
for the salbutamol case I think the same questions
from cycling fans would still be coming, and it’s because of
guys like Floyd Landis, plus the many that came
before and after Landis, that those questions are around, and I would compare it to
being married for 30 years and finding out at the
end of that 30 years that for the entire time, your partner has been cheating on you. Now you might get over it and get married again to a new partner, but you’re naturally going
to be slightly less trusting. You’re gonna be looking for
signs, you’ll be more suspicious and comparisons to your
previous relationship and that’s normal. You’ve been really hurt, so you are going to be less trusting. And I think that’s where
the cycling public are now. Lots of them that have been
into this sport for a long time, found out they’ve been cheated on time and time and time again, and so now when they see
a performance like that they’re automatically
going to ask questions. – Definitely I think
this tweet that we saw from Michael Hitchcock over the weekend really neatly sums up
that range of emotions. Michael tweets, “It’s hard not to be cynical “when a rider attacks
with 80 kilometres to go. “Which is a a total shame,
I can’t enjoy the show “without that element of
doubt in the back of my mind. “Perhaps because I was so
certain about Lance being clean. “It’s just a real shame.” And that doubt or questioning
of exceptional performances has to be a good thing. It keeps a high level
of scrutiny on the sport and it shows the riders,
the teams and the sponsors what the general public’s expectations are and that they’re not going
to be taken for fools again. – No exactly. And I think the sport is in
a decent place now, isn’t it? If you compare it to where it was let’s say 15, 20 years ago,
it’s hardly comparable. Back then, it was commonplace
to have police raids on the teams in hotels. It was commonplace for riders to store blood-bags in a fridge
or freezer or whatever it is and then inject them during the race or EPO or testosterone, or a
whole host of other products that were against the rules and illegal. Now we’ve got to a point where we are questioning
the ethics and morals of a rider who takes a substance
that is within the rules, say for example Tramadol. And I think that if you went back to 2003 and you said to Lance Armstrong
that the biggest controversy facing the Tour de France
champion 15 years later in 2018 was salbutamol, he’d have
probably laughed at you. I mean you wouldn’t have
been able to at the time ’cause he was claiming that he was clean, hence all the problems,
but it just goes to show how far we’ve come in a
very short period of time. Would I recommend my children get into professional
cycling 15 years ago? Possibly not, given the state
the sport was in back then. Would I recommend it to them now? Well apart from a couple of
small concerns personally over road safety and therefore
training, yes I would, ’cause I think the sport is
in a pretty healthy place, at least comparatively. – So what about Chris
Froome’s ride on Stage 19? Well the honest answer is that as with any athletic performance, whether a truly unexceptional one or a truly exceptional one, only the athlete is in a position to know whether or not it was a clean performance, and Chris Froome assures
us that it absolutely was. – Which is also a bit of a problem, in that other riders before Froome have claimed that they could
assure us they were clean and it turns out they weren’t. So where do you go from there? Well I guess you could start
comparing times of riders from today versus the
times of climbs for riders from a few years ago. For example claim that Froome’s time up
the Colle delle Finestre, where he made his race-winning move, was a full two minutes slower than the record set in
2011 by Jose Rujano, a minute and a half slower
than Mikel Landa back in 2015 and a minute slower than
Aru, Uran and Hesjedal from that very same race. But then again, it’s quite
a dangerous thing to do, comparing times over different years under different conditions, as pointed out by current Strava Pro
Phil Gaimon on Twitter. – Phil tweeted, “To folks analysing climb times from races “for doping evidence,
take it from a Strava Pro: “it’s all about freshness, equipment, “weather and air conditions,
and race conditions “that affect pacing. “Individual efforts in
one stage mean nothing. “You’re wasting your time.” So let’s not waste our time. We could talk about the fact
that Team Sky publicly stated from the very beginning of the year, that their aim at the race was to peak in the brutal final week. We could talk about Froome being hindered by two of his earlier crashes. And we could then talk
about the level of detail and preparation that Team Sky are famed for putting
in for races like this. They had a myriad of team helpers on the side of the road during Stage 19 to assist with fueling strategy and the instructions that
Chris Froome received on the descent of the Colle delle Finestre from his team directeur
sportif were so detailed that a driver like Sebastien Loeb would have been happy with them. – Yeah he probably would. If you haven’t seen Gary Blem,
the Team Sky mechanic’s video from that decent, I thoroughly
recommend watching that. But actually yeah he did
take half of his advantage on the descent, didn’t he? Which from my point-of-view
is remarkable in itself because back when I was
racing with Chris Froome, his descending was absolutely
shocking, generally was. Great going uphill, just not very good at going down the other side. So he’s genuinely improved
from that point-of-view. However, we here or you at
home can analyse everything until the cows come home but the answer is, we don’t really know. What we do know is that
anti-doping testing is as good as it’s ever been. Being more numerous in terms
of the testing it’s ever been and the targeted testing does appear to be working as well doesn’t it? And in general when they do target tests and they find a positive, it’s
from a lesser-known rider, in a lesser-known team, at a smaller race. – And the question is whether Chris Froome should have been on the
start-line in the first place, given his adverse analytical finding at last year’s World Tour. It’s a different subject altogether. Looking at the comments that you left underneath yesterday’s GCN Race Show, it’s clearly something that you have some very, very strong opinions on. But the fact of the matter is, that Froome is allowed
to race under the rules until the decision on his case, a case which was only made
public via a leak, is made. Let’s just hope that decision reaches before the Tour de France. – Yeah, fingers crossed. So in conclusion, is cycling 100% clean? Absolutely not, we still get
positive tests, don’t we? Is it in a far, far, far better place than it was 20, 15 or even 10 years ago? Yes, absolutely, 100%. Should we keep asking questions? I definitely think we should do. Should we give up on the
sport of pro cycling? I don’t think so at all,
because I think you can see an enormous number of
positives in pro cycling now. If you pardon the pun. – Don’t forget to get involved on the comments underneath this video. We really enjoy reading your opinions and we enjoy responding
to the comments too. We know that this is gonna
be a really emotive issue that a lot of you have
very strong opinions about so do be nice to each other. – And us. – And us, yeah. (laughs) There were some really
interesting comments underneath yesterday’s GCN Race News Show, that we said we’d get to, and here we are? – Yeah, let’s start with this
one frow Chris, shall we? “I’m sort of indifferent
to Froome’s Giro win.” That was quite a rarity
in terms of a comment. “It’s a three-parter I suppose. “I don’t really care much for the Giro,” That’s strange in itself
isn’t it, what a great race. “Not a fan of Froome, don’t
love him don’t hate him, “and then add a healthy dose of scepticism “regarding the whole
salbutamol/doping thing “and I just went ‘okay’
when I read the news “about him winning the Giro this year. “Neither a thumbs up nor a
thumbs down, just indifferent.” – Yeah and then this exchanged
with Andre Fouche and B B, kind of summed up how a
lot of you are feeling. So Andre says, “To all of Froome’s
detractors, rest assured “he’s been tested thoroughly
during this tour.” Yes, “Even his bike was
screened for doping,” it was. “The sad thing is that he’s been targeted “by supporters of other riders “and who will not acknowledge
the mammoth effort “put in by Froomey to have won the race.” And then B B replied to
that and stated that, “I don’t have a problem with
Froome winning the race, “all credit to him. “I have a problem with
Froome starting the race.” – That just seemed to be the problem that a lot of people have
with the Giro d’Italia, the fact that you can start
it in the first place. Incidentally, if you’re
worried about motors, I have spoken to Gary Blem about this, Team Sky’s mechanic in the past, and he’s basically offered
at any time, at any race, he will completely dismantle Froome’s bike in front of somebody if they put a significant
donation towards charity. So perhaps if you’re suspicious and you’ve got some
money to give to charity, you might want to consider that. And finally from Dougall Stewart, “I love GCN but it causes me some concern “that some of the fantastic set
of presenters can’t at least “show a decent degree of
neutrality RE: Christ Froome. “Seems to the world riders are guilty “until proven otherwise.” Apologies for this if that’s
the way it came across on the GCN Racing News Show yesterday. It certainly was not my
intention to cast aspersions at all on Chris Froome or Team Sky. But simply to acknowledge that there is a vast array
of opinions out there at the moment that we
couldn’t really shy away from. Some of you also took
my giving Ben O’Connor rider of the week as an
insinuation, but it wasn’t. We often choose a kind of
underdog for rider of the week to really showcase a performance that might not necessarily
be in the spotlight. It’s something we’ve
done many times before. – Definitely, you know, Chris Froome was evidently rider of
the week or the month because he had a pink jersey
and a winner’s check in Rome, whereas Ben O’Connor who was on the back of a fantastic season but crashed out, so kind of lost his results
from what could have been his breakthrough Grand Tour, didn’t have much, and we thought he was well worthy of
raising and discussing, ’cause he’s definitely a
promising rider for the future. But the headline is, we really
enjoy reading your comments, so keep them coming in. (upbeat music) – It’s been quite some time
since we gave you an update on the GCN Cycling Club. So, here’s one for you right now. And we had a tremendous response when we first launched GCN CC. So tremendous in fact, that we eventually had
to suspend memberships because we ran out of
socks, didn’t we Lasty? – Yeah we kind of did. But we’ve been on the case
and we’ve ordered a load more so every new member will receive a pair of GCN Cycling Club founders socks, as held by Dan here. As modelled by some of our lovely GCN club members on Instagram. – Yep and we have also
sent our members, sock 001, which are the blue and white ones that you can see that Lasty has here. And we’ve seen a lot of pictures of these being used out and about on
the bike, understandably, but we also had this picture, where somebody decided to
put a pair on their horse. – We did. We’ve also got some very, very
exciting new about GCN CC. Essentially, we decided
that I needed a bit of help as club president. – Yes definitely. – So we’ve appointed a GCN
Cycling Club community president which means that every three months, we will have a new president,
and they get a tonne of kit. – They do, yeah. The new community president
will not only get some GCN kit but also hoodies and T-shirts and Lasty is going to be
in consultation with them about some ideas that we
have got to develop GCN CC. And I will be giving you more details and telling you who that
is on next week’s show as well as showing you the
moment that we announce this incredible responsibility,
really, isn’t it. – Yeah, definitely,
responsibility and honour. Like we said at the top of this section, we do have more socks available if you would like to join GCN Cycling Club and we’ll link to the website below. (trumpet fanfare music) (electronic ding reverberating) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – Cycling Shorts now
and since there’s been a lot in the way of racing
shorts over the past week, we thought we’d start with a few snippets from the Giro d’Italia. – We did and we’re not gonna kick it off with something that nice actually. We’re gonna play a bit of a game of the financial Biggest Loser from the last three days
at the Giro d’Italia because in my 20-or-so years of watching professional cycling, I can’t recall a Grand Tour
where so many of the leaders and kind of favourites
for the race really, have entirely dropped out the mention. – Yeah heartbreak for a number of people at the Giro d’Italia. So to give you an example,
if you win the Giro you firstly receive a prize of
115,000 Euros, or just over, from the organisers and a strange bonus also from the organisers of 90,000 Euros. Simon Yates ended up finishing 21st after dropping out of the pink jersey, which means he didn’t get a
prize for the overall at all ’cause it only goes down to the top 20. Which in turn means that
he and his team lost out on a total prize run for the
overall, of 205,000 Euros. That’s gotta hurt, doesn’t it? – It has, certainly. Thibaut Pinot, on track
for 3rd place overall, where he would have got 48,000
Euros, or about 48,000 Euros, made up of 28,000 Euros
plus a 20,000 Euro top-up from the organisers, again, lost it all. – [Daniel] Yeah. – The final thing I wanted
to mention on the Giro was another thing that I hadn’t heard of in all my years of following cycling, which is seeing Froome’s
Vuelta, Tour and Giro victories referred to as the Tiger Slam. – [Daniel] You’ve never heard that before? – I’ve never heard of the Tiger Slam. I’d always associated tigers with being orange and black as well. – Yeah, rather than pink, yellow and red. Strange one, I’m not sure
where that came from, if you know let us know in the
comments section down below. Now onto something slightly
less dangerous than tigers, well maybe not actually
if you have to go uphill. Marcin Bialoblocki, who is a Polish rider based here in the UK, formerly riding on the continent in fact but now specialising in UK time trials. He fitted a 70-toothed chainring to his time trial bike recently to go for one of the
records over here in the UK. If you’re not familiar with the
British time-trialing scene, in essence, people go
up and down the country searching for fast courses so they can complete
10, 25, 50 or 100 miles as quickly as they possibly can. And some courses, quite obviously are a lot faster than others. – Yeah what do you think it
would take to spin out 70-11. I reckon I would need a
30% dead-straight hill with no oncoming traffic
and perfect tarmac. – I think I would need a home trainer where the tyre wasn’t quite
meeting with the roller, so I was, at no resistance. – Well I looked on the inimitable
Sherwin Brand’s website to find out exactly how fast you’d have to be going to spin 70-11. And it turns out that for 90
rpm on a standard road bike you’d be going about
74 kilometres an hour. – As you can see, it was
rather a large downhill towards the start of the
course which always helps in getting your speed up at the beginning. Nevertheless, very impressive
time from Bialoblocki at 43 minutes and 21 seconds for 25 miles. That is an average speed,
Lasty, average not max, of just under 36 miles per hour or just under 56 kilometres per hour and it’s not even the British record which is also held by Bialoblocki. He covered that course 21 seconds faster or 23 seconds faster a
couple of weeks previous. – Those speeds are definitely
things I associate with max on a ride home, rather than average. Probably max speeds when
I used to time-trial as well to be fair. – Very true. – Moving on from that, there
has been a recent EU directive which has said that e-bike users should have third party insurance. We’ll put the full text of
the directive on screen now as it seems to be hinting that due to directives and
rules already in place, e-bike users and also
automated vehicle drivers, or drivers of driverless
cars, if that makes sense, should perhaps already have
third-party insurance in place. Something that we’ll be
keeping an eye on that as I imagine will my friends at EMBN. – [Daniel] Yeah we will be. – Some good news as well here that we can take home this
and take back to work again, which is a study recently published in the British Medical Journal, found that people who use
their bikes to commute to work, may well basically live longer. So your risk of
cardiovascular disease, cancer and all-cause mortality was
reduced by commuting by bike. – Well that is good news, isn’t it? And if you’re already commuting by bike, and you’d like to take
things up another level, we’re here to help. Well we’re not, but Emma Pooley is because she has done a series here on GCN all about training on your commute. So if you haven’t checked that out already make sure you do so, and if
you’ve been following it, we’d like to know how you’re getting on. Let us know in the comments
section down below. Have you improved? (upbeat music) – So now for the GCN Wiggle of Fortune. Dan, what can one lucky viewer win? – One lucky viewer could
win one of four prizes. I could win a prize as well. Not gonna mention it until
I actually win the thing, it’s never happened so far. But the four prizes
provided by Wiggle are, firstly, 25 pounds of vouchers
if it lands on prize four. Prize three is 50 pounds, prize two 75, and the big one, 150
pounds of Wiggle vouchers to spend on what you want over
at the Wiggle online shop, if it lands on prize one. Lasty, who is the lucky
contestant this week? – This week’s very lucky contestant, Dan, is Neil Orr from Britain. – So without further ado let’s see what Neil is going to win. You want to give us the count now Lasty. He’s in charge of the button this week. – Three, two, one. (button bangs)
(electronic beeping) (wheel clicking)
– And we are off. Fast-spinning wheel this week. There’s the big, gone again, gone again. Prize four, prize three, prize two, is it gonna be prize one? I think it might be. – Is it gonna be prize one? – Neil must be nervous. Oh no, Neil!
(electronic beeping) – Oh Neil. – Aw it’s a bit like
Mitchelton-Scott’s prize money at the Giro then. Looked like it was gonna be
loads, still a bit though unlike Mitchelton-Scott for the overall general classification, although they did pick up some
money for stages didn’t they? – They did.
– Five stage wins. So very similar actually. – Yeah okay. – Yeah 25 pounds of Wiggle vouchers will be winging their way to you. Make sure you write in and let us know what you spend those one. And if you’d like to put
yourself in with a chance of being the contestant next
week, you know what to do. There is a link in the description below and you’ve just got to follow that. (upbeat music) – Tech of the week now,
and Pirelli has announced a brand new road tubeless tyre
called the Cinturato Velo. The tyre is built to be durable so it can be used on
anything from smooth roads through to really quite
rough gravel tracks. It’s tubeless first but you
can also use it with tubes and this is where Pirelli say that their biggest breakthrough came because the demands on
tubed versus tubeless tyres differ so greatly, yet
they state that this tyre doesn’t really sacrifice
anything in performance however which way you use it. – There’s also a new virtual
cycling world out there. It’s been in development
for the past couple of years but it’s now in its beta version, which means you can try it out, and it’s called Road Grand tours. You’re able to do things such
as customising your avatar. You can use it in conjunction
with a smart trainer, and it uses real-world locations
with two examples currently being the Stelvio and Mont Ventoux, which sounds pretty interesting. Now since it is beta version as well, as I said you can try it out and make sure you let
us know what it’s like. – Yeah definitely do that and it’s clearly a direct
competitor with Zwift but I think competition’s
always a good thing. – Always healthy to
have competition, yeah. – Onwards and upwards. Something that we wouldn’t usually mention on the GCN Show is mountain bike tech but I think this week we actually
have cause to mention it. In part to almost celebrate the fact that as road cyclists we got
a really cool bit of tech before the mountain bikers did. – Yeah we got there first. That’s why we’re mentioning it. – They didn’t have it
then it came across to us. So Jonny was at the recent round of the Mountain Bike World Cup in Nove Mesto in the Czech Republic and he took a good look at SRAM’s wireless mountain bike system. It doesn’t have a name yet but it looks pretty
close to being complete and the cool thing about this is obviously being a mountain bike grip
set it’s a one-bike grip set so it has a clutch wireless rear mech, so it could have some
really great applications down the line for
particularly gravel and cross. Maybe some road riders as well, so let’s see if that happens in time. – As you said we’re mainly
just gloating about the fact that we got the technology
first, mountain bikers. Sorry about that. Right, let’s finish by having a look at some of the custom tech on display on the last day of the Giro d’Italia, namely two bikes actually. Elia Viviani won the
points classification, where he got a ciclamino jersey. So Specialised provided
him with this frame, which is a purple fade, tell
me what you think about that. You can get a chance to
let us know in a minute. First though, take a look at this bike. It’s from Chris Froome. A lot of pink on there from Pinarello. In fact when he was riding around there wasn’t much of him or
his bike that wasn’t pink. That sound right? I’ll leave it in there anyway. Let us know what you think
about these two bikes and which one’s your favourite. – Yeah you can vote just up there so let us know, you know the score. (upbeat music) You can of course catch
up an all the racing news in our weekly cycling race news show but we’ve got a few little
bits and pieces for you here. – We have, starting
with some rumours Lasty, we have a rumour don’t we, here at GCN? Not normally true but nevertheless, we should go with it anyway. That rumour is, and it’s
come from the Giro d’Italia, that Egan Bernal, the incredible talent that is 21-year-old
Egan Bernal of Team Sky, might be doing the Tour de France. So the cycling podcast spoke to Team Sky at the Giro d’Italia, and they suggested they
might be pulling Bernal out of the Criterium du Dauphine, presumably to give him more
time to prepare for the Tour. And if he does it, I’m
gonna be very excited because he is a climber
and a half, isn’t he? – Yeah he’s clearly a supremely
talented young cyclist but he is still very young. He’s only 21. I think though, if there
were still nine-rider teams in grand tours, you’d
imagine that Team Sky would have him at the Tour. – Yeah, you’d have thought so. Makes it more difficult
with eight, doesn’t it? – Yeah definitely. Next up, the #84kg is now over, Dan. – Is it?
– Yes. – Ryan Mullen? – Ryan Mullen, it was being
used by Trek-Segafredo and their rider Ryan
Mullen at the Giro d’Italia but Mellen lost about a
kilo a week during the race. – That right, you’ll just
have to change the hashtag. – Now incredibly lean, so yeah, probably looking at #81kg. – Yeah, he is incredibly
muscular Ryan Mullen, isn’t he? It’s quite a lot to take around all the mountains of the Giro, 81 kilogrammes, or 84
as it was at the start. But I reckon he is the only
rider in professional cycling that, why are you looking at
my muscles when I say this? Only rider in professional cycling who can stand next to Mario Cipollini and not look like a complete weed. – Away from the Giro, Dan,
the Mitchelton-Scott team have been on fire. – They have. – This last week. They’ve taken a bunch of one-twos, including at the Emakumeen
Bira, where Amanda Spratt and Annemiek van Vleuten
took one-two there. At Gooik-Geraardsbergen-Gooik
they took a one-two with Sarah Roy and Gracie Elvin, and then they went and
won every single stage and of course the overall,
at the Hammer Stavanger. – They did, absolutely dominant they were, all those races, quite incredible really. But we’re very excited actually, speaking of the Hammer Series, in that we’re going to be live-streaming Hammer Limburg starting
this coming Friday. And we’ve also got daily highlights of the Criterium du Dauphine. Go over to our Facebook page for them and in fact you can find links to those in the description below this video. – You certainly can. So the Hammer Series
Limburg is going to be live from just before 4:00 p.m. UK time, just before 5:00 p.m. European time, just before 11:00 a.m. Eastern and just before 8:00 a.m. Pacific Time, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And we’d really like for you to join. We’ll link each of the events
down in the description and you can click an
those and set a reminder so that you don’t miss out. – And then also on the Facebook page is where you’ll be able to find the Criterium du Dauphine highlights. We’re going through all
the main talking points of each and every stage and we’re gonna have
some exclusive insights from some of the riders
that are doing the race which is pretty exciting. So make sure you check that out. – If you can’t tell, we’re
just incredibly excited to be bringing you live race
coverage and race highlights over on our Facebook page. You can, wherever you are in the world, watch the Criterium du
Dauphine highlights packages and pretty much, we’ve
got near-global coverage for the Hammer Series Limburg as well. So make sure you do set
reminders for those events and also tell your cycling
friends to join too. You know, the more the merrier. We’re looking forward
to having you join us. – Yeah, we want to get the word out to as many cycling fans as possible. It is available to watch for free. ‘Cause as Lasty said, we’re
extremely excited about it. (upbeat music) – Time to announce some
giveaway winners Dan. So last week we had announced our Assos cycling clothing
and gear giveaway. And the two lucky winners are. Steven Drinkrow from New Zealand and Alice Silva from Italy,
congratulations to both of you, those are very cool prizes. – Yeah well done Steven and Alice. We’ll be in touch very shortly indeed so that we can get those
kit bundles out to you as soon as possible. Moving on to this week’s
brand new giveaway. You’ll remember that Si
recently went out to Morocco to do some bike packing with the expert in that
subject, that is Josh Ibbett. Since then we have teamed up with our partners over at Topeak to give away some prizes, so you can go and give bike packing a try for yourself. So 10 lucky winners
will get two bags each. The front loader and a back loader, which attach to your handlebars and your seat post respectively. So whether you’re going
on a credit card touring and getting hotels every time, or perhaps doing it properly,
and going into the world and being self-supported, they’re gonna help you on your way. – Which would you do Dan? Credit card or wild camping? – Take a guess, Lasty. Yeah credit card. – Yeah okay, there we go. We’ll put the link in
the description below if you’d like to enter. (drill whizzing) – Hack, forward-slash bodge of the week. Now don’t forget if you’d
like to get involved, the hashtag is #GCNhack. We will look at Instagram,
Twitter and Facebook. Starting things off for us
this week is @openbookcoffee. The customised length of the twig crutch gave me the centre of the
cassette and three chain lengths to make the final 18 kilometres home. Open book MacGuyver. Well done on finding a
twig that was that shape. – [Tom] It’s a bodge. – [Daniel] It’s still a bodge, yeah of course it’s a bodge, Lasty. – [Tom] I can’t believe it held for 18 kilometres, so fair play. – [Daniel] No, @TanohSnap from Singapore. When you’re the size of a gorilla everything on the bike flexes. – [Tom] Yeah I find that. – [Daniel] I add more
strength to the handlebar with some T800 carbon fibres. Time to stiffen things up for those grips. – [Tom] Well I presume that works. A few extra grammes there but I guess the extra stiffness
helps if you’re that big. – Don’t read into that
sentence too much at home. Next up from @VictorSalvi,
moving quickly on, homemade truing stand– – [Tom] It was a hack. – [Daniel] And wheel alignment gauge. Works like a charm #GCNhack. Well it looks very similar to one that you could buy off
the shelf, doesn’t it? So I would definitely
say that that is a hack. – [Tom] Solid hack, Victor and also Tanoh yours was a hack as well. – [Daniel] Oliver Young,
side wheel blowout fixed with a empty gel
packet and dental floss. – [Tom] Um that’s a, why
have you got dental floss out on a ride to start with? I mean definitely a hack but I mean that is
MacGuyver there, isn’t it? If you’ve got those sorts of
spares in your rear saddle bag. – Next up, Ben Plunkett
sent us this video. I might have seen something
similar on the show before, still pretty cool, I counted
five speakers in total. Hi-fi bike. (upbeat electronic music) It’s quite loud that last isn’t it? I’m not sure what I think
about people that want other people to know what
music they’re listening to. It’s a bit like those boy
racers that we used to get in the UK that blare their
music out of their cars. I know I’m sounding slightly
old and bitter now but yeah. – Yeah no it’s a bodge. It’s a total bodge. Okay Dan, following on
from your previous comment I think I’m gonna let you
take Tom Sawyer’s submission. – Yes, okay all right, give
me all the awful ones lastly. Tom Sawyer yes. “Hey lads, my mate Dave,” my mate Dave, “decided to use a condom
so he could waterproof “his saddlebag at the Tour
Connemara this weekend. “Is it a hack or a bodge?” I guess it works but it’s
rather unsightly, isn’t it? – [Tom] There’s nothing
more you can say is there? – Bodge. End of story. Don’t forget to keep sending
your hacks and bodges in and we’ll feature our favourite
ones this time next week. (upbeat music) – Capture of the week now and it’s your turn to find
out if you might have won a GCN CamelBak waterbottle. – This is last week’s photo
from the Giro d’Italia with Chris Froome riding up the
Zoncolan next to a dinosaur. At least a human dressed up as a dinosaur. Winner is, Tim Bishop with the caption “I dino if there is enough Froome “on this road for the both of us.” (drum snare crashing) I’m not sure right where I
was going with that accent but we found that very funny, as did 65 other people who liked it. So well done to you Tim. Get in touch with us via
a message on Facebook and we’ll get that bottle out to you. – An overwhelming winner. This week’s caption photo is– – [Daniel] Quite similar. – Kind of yeah, continuation of a theme. It’s a race favourite at the Giro being chased by a person
dressed as an animal. This time Tom Dumoulin and a pig. Dan, I know you’ve got a good. – Don’t get too close to Tom Dumoulin otherwise you might be a pig in (beep). – If you can do better than that, and you might struggle because Dan’s caption is
actally okay this week, make sure you comment below and you could win a GCN
CamelBak waterbottle. – Not just this week
Lasty, I’ve been on a roll. – I dunno. (upbeat music) Comment of the week now Dan. I thought we should
take a bit of a breather and a step away from the
Giro d’Italia comments, and I found this one which was so nice that I wondered if it was from
one of your false accounts. It’s from Mari Gioneti, who says, “As a spinning instructor and road cyclist “I can’t recommend GCN’s
training videos enough. “Dan is such a brainiac, with great hair. “Be aware that the shorter the session “the harder he’s going
to punish you, awesome!” Not only have you got the great
hair comment, and the one– – Well that seemed like
a genuine comment to me. It didn’t even seem sarcastic. Not true of course about the
brainiac thing in particular. Neither the hair I’m sure
many of you will say, but I will take that, thanks for pointing it out to me Lasty. Also this from Will McGrane, “The Ross Tillteayen?” The Ross til-tee-an. I didn’t know how to pronounce it and I still don’t unfortunately. The Ross Tiltejen, what? What’s the actual name? Thanks. Well I’m afraid I still don’t know. I’ve got my favourite
website called that helps your pronunciations. It wasn’t on there so
I was none the clearer. – It was called the am-pos-ross
when you used to write it but it’s the pro-am tour of Ireland and it’s a legendary race
in the British Isles. – Oh it is an absolutely unique race and you get pro riders
against county riders and it basically all goes off
in the gun every single day. So unpredictable but a fantastic race. Right, shall we move onto
what’s on the channel this week? – We certainly should. – Yeah, so coming up on Wednesday, we’ve got a special on how
to plan a bike packing trip and then on Thursday it’s actually the start of gravel week right here on GCN and as such we are starting
with top 10 gravel rides. Then on Friday we’ve got ask GCN anything. – Plus on Friday we’re
also gonna have our first of the live events from
the Hammer Series Limburg. So it’s the Hammer climb which will be starting from
about 4:00 p.m. UK time, 5:00 p.m. European or 8:00 a.m. if you’re on
the Pacific coast of the US. On Saturday we’ll have
how to ride a gravel bike an the Hammer Sprint live at the same times as this Hammer Climb. And on Sunday we’ll be looking at, a big question, is FTP dead? So we’ll have a version on GCN, we’ll have an in-depth, very geeky version with Professor Louis Passfield
over on GCN Tech too. Plus on Sunday we’ll have the final round of the Hammer Series Limburg,
the Hammer Chase live. That’ll be from the same time
as the previous two stages. Plus we’ll have highlights
of the Criterium du Dauphine. – Yeah, lot to remember, plus
also next week the usuals on Monday the the GCN Racing News Show and Tuesday we’re back on the set for another edition of the GCN Show. Well I’m afraid that’s the
end of this week’s GCN Show. We’ll of course be back
at the same time next week but loads of stuff for you
to view on this channel between now and then. – There certainly is, so make sure you hit the thumbs up button if you’ve enjoyed this week’s GCN Show. As we mentioned more than a
few times during this video we’re very excited about the
live racing we have coming up and that is all linked in the description. Before you go however, we
should also let you know about the outlet sale going on at so head on over and grab a deal. We’ll link it on-screen
at the end of this video. – Now if you haven’t yet
seen the following video I can thoroughly recommend it to you. Very interesting indeed. It’s from Si and it’s all
about spinning versus grinding which is quite a hot topic right now. You can find it just down here.

100 comments on “What The Froome?! | The GCN Show Ep. 281

  1. We're looking forward to hearing your comments, and we'll be here too. We want to keep this a positive place for all – so please be nice 😄

    P.S. Make sure you set your reminders for the Hammer Series Limburg LIVE on GCN Facebook here:

  2. Love your show – and the Giro was awesome – every year it proves to be the major Grand Tour. But when Froome is stripped of the Giro title, where does that leave cycling? UCI must get its act together – either you doped, and are banned immediately – or you were not using doping. That big names like Froome (or Contador before him) can continue to race after having been caught for doping is just not tenable – and people have a good memory, even if the situation now is much better than 15 years ago, as you say.

  3. The tiger slam refers to tiger woods. He won all the majors in a row but over a span of two years. Not in the same year, like Froome

  4. I think it’s time to see Lasty attack another big climb, against Jon up Monte Zoncolan. Not forgetting Jon has already chosen his gearing 😊

  5. Tiger Slam – Tiger Woods holding all 4 major golf championships simultaneously, but not in the same year.

  6. Do the socks come in an ankle cut? I can't afford to have 6 inches above my ankle super white as a runner

  7. #Caption: There's a pig, don't look at the pig, don't look, try not to look, don't look, keep pedaling… stop it, don't look.

  8. Regarding Chris Froome, of course he should have started the race. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

  9. Riding with a speaker to play your own music is a safety feature. Your ears are not plugged like in headphones and everyone can hear you coming so they are more aware that you are there.

  10. Dan lloyd wins caption comp this week. No one can surely beat that. First time I've properly laughed at a caption! Chapeau Dan.. chapeau.

  11. Hum… AAF, TUEs, mysterious performances & packages. I get it that all British folks don't want to hear it (just like the Americans 15 years ago) but Sky "Marginal Gains" is US Postal 2.0… At least stage 19 was a great show.

  12. Completely agree about those who have music playing out of speakers on their bike. I really don't get it. I think they are Grade A plonkers

  13. Lloydy, beautiful and painstakingly put. You gave a very thoughtful insight and we can all see your dilemmas. We all wish for the best and fear for the worst in life, but that is just the way life is.
    Carry on guys you are great👏

  14. As I read the cycling press and the myriad of forums I am taken aback by how naive the writers seem. They seem to expect that racers are going to race clean and not cheat. It is as if they are completely unfamiliar with the entire history of the sport.

    If there is one race that “is” cycling, it is the Tour de France and if one spends even a few minutes researching the history of the Gran Boucle, they will know that since the first day man turned a pedal in anger some riders cheated and some riders doped. It is today as it always has been. Why would any rational person expect that to have changed?

    The problem is not with the sport of cycling, for decades the sport has offered a product that included doping as part and parcel of the sport. Riders doped because they wanted to win, because they craved the fame and money that winning provided.

    I read one writer, bemoaning Froome’s Giro victory, claim that Froome was “shitting all over cycling”. Nothing could be further from the truth. Froome was merely maximizing his earnings and achievements within a system that allows him to operate in certain ways. He is doing nothing different than many others that came before him. He is only doing things that fans have tolerated for over a hundred years. If anything Froome was continuing the proud tradition of doping in cycling.

    As they say, “money makes the world go ‘round” and thus it is with cycling, riders, teams and the sport itself tolerate, conceals and even encourage doping to make more money. That money does not fall from the sky; it has to come from somewhere. It comes from the fans, from viewership of the sport and purchase of the products that sponsor the sport. Sponsors rely on viewership of races to confirm their marketing ploy is working.

    Cycling fans control those purse strings that pay Froome, as long as cycling fans tolerate doping there will be doping. I am sure your next thought is “but I don’t tolerate doping”. But you do, the minute you tune to watch the Giro or the Tour or pop open a cycling news website to check the latest results you support doping. Anyone with even a semblance of knowledge about cycling knows that the vast majority of those involved dope, in one form or another. If you want change, stop watching the sport. If you continue to watch the sport then admit to yourself you don’t really want change.

    Let’s fix cycling… don’t watch another minute of another race. Don’t click open a cycling site that reports race news. Put off buying that new bike. Try not to buy any products that support racing. Take your money and viewership somewhere else. That will fix the problem. If you need proof, just witness the NFL no longer allowing players to kneel during the National Anthem. Fans did that, by not watching. This was not a move the NFL owners wanted to make but they did because the fans did watch as much last year.(disclaimer, this is not a judgement on any of issues regarding the National Anthem controversy just clear evidence that fans can quickly change a sport when they withdraw their support)

    Send the “sport” a clear message, that you won’t have anything to do with it until they fix it. Let the sport know that we don’t want riders on TUEs and we want 1st offense lifetime bans and huge fines for riders caught doping and fines and bans of team doctors and directors whose riders are caught doping. The doping problem will then be fixed and we can confidently say that our sport is clean. No CAS, no appeal, no second chances. The A sample test positive and the B sample tests positive then you are done. No excuses, no appeals, no interviews about how your Chimera screwed you. Just good bye and good luck.

    One and done. First time, every time. If a rider, director or doctor does not like the new rules then go do something else. If you have asthma and cant race without drugs then gee I guess the world needs ditch diggers too. There are thousands that will race clean.

    If enough people commit to not supporting cycling and demand “One and Done” and no TUEs with bans and fines cycling doping problem will be fixed before next year’s Giro.

    Otherwise, admit to yourself that you are OK with doping and enjoy the spectacle and don’t whine about the dopers.

  15. Two things bother me about wins like Froome's. First is the PLSD (post-Lance …) Dan speaks of, and the second is the ridiculous sums of money and resources teams like Sky throw at their team in the name of "marginal gains". They're like the Chelsea of cycling. I'm more impressed with teams who can challenge Sky without the deep pockets.

  16. love the show: always looking forward to new episodes. little bu bear tho: why the section about 'what's coming u? p this week'? don't followers all have notifications turned on anyway? feels a little like 'filler'. why not just have it in the notes?

  17. Hi GCN. I did an intervalride this week hitting 1250+ watts 13 times. Maks on 1384 W (at 68 kilos #wattagebazooka xD) Have you got any tips how to get above 1400 W? Have been training on it for a while now but cant seem to hit 1400.

  18. This sport doesn't exist professionally without PEDs. Too much money in riders contracts and advertising not to have cheating involved. Its human nature to cheat. Anybody that thinks the cheating has lessened is naïve. The testers are liars because they want you to think they are doing their job, the riders are lying of course, the directors lie, everybody lies until caught, and then they continue to lie. Money causes greed and cheating, simple. Have a nice day.

  19. My thought is that the difference in all sports, not just cycling of today is, that 30+ years ago, testing for drugs was either not conducted, not accurate, or even ignored to protect the athletes and the sport. If the athletes of years past had the equipment we have now with the testing they had back then, undoubtedly i believe records would stand that could not be broken with testing the way it is today.

  20. I have a climb scheduled for Mt Evans in Colorado (US). How do you submit a "welcome to the GCN show video" ? I would like to submit one from the summit.

  21. Froome's case should have run it's course by now…otherwise he shouldn't be racing until it is done. Cycling is NOT in a better place….same ole…same ole.

  22. Also you want to question Egan Bernal, he did ride on the rather dodgy Andreotti team last year. Not saying he's not talented but in every race he's entered he's destroyed the field(TOC) recently, at 21, that to me is rather incredible.

  23. What's the difference between Landis and Coppi other than Coppi admitting to doping and Landis being found guilty of doping? Is there some moral high ground to be won somewhere along the line? Fast forward a few years and Anquetil openly admitted to doping through his five Tour wins but there's no asterisk against his name…

    I'll keep in the spirit as requested by the moderator and say that I love this sport despite having a deep history of doping since the 1880s. Yeah, that wasn't a typo on the numeric keypad.

  24. I dont have a caption for this week. I just have a better caption for last week (which I missed).

    "No you won't fool, the children of the revolution…"

  25. CAPTION: little piggi to the big bad wolf- i'll take your breath away. B-B- wolf ( takes out his inhaler and froome's on )

  26. Does the fact that Limey land now a Nazi police stare,affect the show, or is it ok as long as we don't talk about the GD elite pedos?

  27. Since now Wiggle plays abig part in GCN, any chance adding more reports on their pro team like pro bike check, race report, trainig etc? Thanks.

  28. This is all very unscientific. Froome did finestre at less than 6 watts per kilo. Lance, Ullrich and co would drop him in a few pedal strokes, they were climbing at 6.4 watts per kilo back in the day. Froomes 397 watts @ 67kg is 5.93 watts per kilo not really that incredible. The level of the giro is lower than the tour always has been. Also no comment on the weakness of Sunweb. Had Tom D been riding for Sky he'd have won this Giro no doubt. I really do not like the negativity towards sky and Froome displayed here.

  29. On second thought, Yates contributed by wearing Dumoulin, leaving the race to Froome. In the end a good English duo. It worked very well. Since CArapaz and Lopez had been able to walk the whole giro in the vacuum of Dulmoulin, they did not help at all. And Pinot broke miserably in spite of the attempts to walk with the Dutchman. In the end, we have SKY with millionaire budget and two English cyclists together to destroy poor Dumoulin.

  30. Hi everyone, I am struggling to find the video Dan mentions regarding CF descent and the assistance he gets from the team on the way down. Grateful for the link if anyone has it. Thx Rick

  31. For me, the amazing thing is I reckon Lance Armstrong was some rider. His record is quite outstanding – drugs or no drugs…
    As Matt Johnson of The The succinctly put it: Lance was just 'a symptom of a moral decay that's gnawing at the heart of it' (society)…

  32. gotta shorten the stages if you want to clean up the sport. the stages are too long, too hard so that the weak-spirited pro's and their managers choose to bring the race down to their levels via drugs. at least for the next several years keep Grand Tour stages between 60-100 miles. the way it is now is like pro bodybuilding; people like to see Freaks onstage and there are no shortage of athletes too weak-willed to compete naturally. i feel that the cycling public is so sick of being cheated on? we would love to see real human beings – not chemically altered ones – race their bikes using human powered skills and wise nutrition to win stage races.

  33. Dan's commentary early onto into the video was a breath of relief for new cycling fans out there (e.g., me). Finally some fan perspective into a sport that has a history that is many times older than I am.

  34. froome? maybe. maybe scientists are ahead again with new drugs which cannot be detected. who knows. btw, in chicago, the rental bicycles have to be checked in every 30 minutes or there is a fine/additional charge which most do not know about. heard that this results in 70% of their profits. what a crock of shit.

  35. Froomie's win was legit!!! He won!!
    You know that he knows, he's being watched very closely! There's no way he would show up to the Giro cheating! HE WON!

  36. hey GCN did you ever get your question answered about the "Tiger Slam" or did you google it? Anyway, it's from golf. It's about Tiger Woods and his winning the majors.

  37. Doping is supposed to boost a rider and make him 5 to 10% faster. So, at a Grand Tour with say around 80 hours as a final time for the winner a doped athlete should be 4 hours faster than all the clean riders. Froome won by a margin of what…40 seconds? I guess if there are a lot of riders who are just seconds or a few minutes behind the winner, they have access to the same…let's say scientific resources.

  38. The Tiger Slam reference Tiger Woods holding all four modern major championships simultaneously-the U S Open, Open Championship and PGA Championship in 2000 and the 2001 Masters

  39. Love the show and GCN in general. It's helped me no end to get better on the bike. Would love to see/hear the production team use a few lapel mics on the presenters for the GCN show though. Once they go off boom mic its hard to hear if listening in some environments. Small gripe but would be ace to fix. Thanks again and sorry to be a moaning shi*!

  40. Very disappointed big fan of Froome I'm not going to lie and what he did out there and his team did to get him in that position was phenomenal and that's what bike racing is all about I'm just disappointed that he's got this hanging over his head

  41. You choose to trust, no amount of facts or past info can help you. You still choose to trust or not to trust.

  42. The Giro was the best race I've ever watched, Froome was brilliant. I'm ignoring all the white noise around testing, let's wait and see

  43. Honestly, I think we know most all cyclists dope in some form or another. I still love cycling. Here is another bomb I can drop on you all, there is no tooth fairy, Easter bunny and Santa Clause was our parents.

  44. In reference to froome and any other cyclist, remember 🤔innocent until proven guilty folks. So until then, 👏clap, and cheer your favourite riders

  45. All of the cycling shows I watch, including GCN, seem to be incredulous at Chris Froome's performance at the Giro. Until something shows otherwise, I have to believe that Froome's skills and smarts won the day. By coincidence, (it turned up in my YouTube thumbnails), I just watched the documentary, "Pantani, the Accidental Death of a Cyclist", at I was wondering if any of the GCN presenters have seen it, and how you think the themes presented in the film may, or may not, be relevant to pro cycling today.

  46. Hi GCN, I would like to know what are the UCI standards for a road race bike. I know there is a low limit for weight and you can't have three chainwheels. But that's all I know andthere is no video here on youtube about it.

  47. It’s not just this performance that has me doubting Sky. Look at The Dauphine and G. Thomas, Team Sky. How is it that every Sky Rider since B. Wiggins is good enough to beat every Leader of Rivals. You Wiggins, Froome, Porte, Thomas, etc. all they way down the roster. I’ve never seen that good of riders all come from same program. If I’m wrong, I apologize.

  48. the sad thing is that maybe Froome shouldnt have been there in the Giro because of all the Sky team possible doping controversy and could still be stripped if it all true, sadly Tom Dumoulin would get the win over doping and not his own efforts and with that he would join the every exclusive club of dutch cyclist with 2 grand tour wins would make him the 3rd member with a pain in his heart it wont be on his own merit

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  50. "I guess the extra stiffness helps if you're that big" ~Dan, 2018

    The best piece of cycling advice I've heard so far.

  51. Its not as bad as it was in Armstrongs era where you had no choice but to dope if you wanted to be competitive, but I think the tdf is such a tough race both physically and mentally draining that you can understand riders looking for any edge they can find and now they do it by pushing TUE’s to the limit or beyond in some cases, using legal drugs, but still using, not totally clean and never likely to be. Froome used twice the allowed amount so however it is spun, he cheated, whether intentionally or by accident. Considering how disciplined riders generally are in their preparations, I think it was intentional. Do I think he should lose his tdf win? No, but neither should Armstrong have lost his 7 wins for an event that has for justified and understandable reasons, never been clean.

  52. All the guys at the top are doping some way or another, its the money. Start a tour de france where you can use whatever you want and compare the times.

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