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When Does Teamwork Become Back-Stabbing? | The GCN Show Ep. 267

When Does Teamwork Become Back-Stabbing? | The GCN Show Ep. 267

– From Cairns, North Queensland, Australia – [Both] Welcome to the GCN Show! – Welcome to the GCN Show. – This week, teamwork or backstabbing? Get your head around the
fragile cycling team dynamics with our handy four point guide. – We’ve got Mr. T, we’ve got possibly the world’s
most dedicated parents, and we’ve got chalk and
cheese in the Tech section. – Indeed. And we’ve got Emma Pooley. Emma! So, it feels kind of different, you know? – Why? I mean, like, nothing’s changed. Just, you know, presenting– – No. No, I know, I know, just. (TV static) (jazz percussion) (TV static) (jazz percussion) (TV static) (sneaky jazz music) (TV static) (sneaky jazz music) (TV static) (high intensity music) (bikes whizzing by) – This week in the world of cycling, we learned that bike-share
schemes saved China $2.6 billion last year.
(money jingling) At the same time, traffic congestion cost the
United States $305 billion. So, just get more people on bikes. – We also learned that
much as we love road bikes, sometimes we do have to
recognise that they’re just not the right tools for the job. – No. (high energy rock music) – Vittorio Brumotti there defying death in his own inimitable way. – This week, we were also once again
left asking the question, “At what point does teamwork
constitute backstabbing?” – Yeah. At the Volta ao Algarve, Geraint Thomas of Team Sky was comfortably in the lead going into the final day. His teammate, however, Michał Kwiatkowski, was policing a threatening breakaway. A breakaway that was never caught. Kwiatkowski masterfully got
a handle on the situation, ended up taking the stage
win and also the overall. – Was that teamwork? I mean, it was still a win for Team Sky, but did he work over his
loyal teammate in the process? A teammate who had already led him out for a stage victory earlier in the week. – Well yeah, it is a
question that’s as old as the sport itself, almost. We remember such rivalries
as LeMond and Hinault at the 1986 Tour de France when even, when a teammate just
looks a little bit strong, like Team Sky’s Froome/Landa dynamic at the 2017 Tour de France. – [Emma] Or Team Sky’s
Wiggins/Froome dynamic in 2012. – Well, yeah. At the end of the day,
cycling is a team sport. It’s all about working
for your team to win, and setting personal ambition to one side. But personal ambition is still very real, and that is why we get these
brilliant soap operatic scenes of accusations and counter-arguments, often in public, that are all about teamwork
versus backstabbing. – And how do we know which is which? Well, here is our handy guide
to working out your teamwork from your backstabbing in four easy steps. (relaxed jazz music) – As cycling fans we’re not usually privy to this kind of information, but you can get a pretty
good idea from the behaviour of the riders over on the finish line or outside the team buses. – Yes, I mean, are they hugging? Shouting? Crying? Throwing their bikes? Posting angry tweets or
furious Facebook comments? – Yeah, in the case of Algarve last week, if the team directive
was to control the race, ride on the front and
then control the lead for Geraint Thomas, then
getting in the break, even if you win, still kinda backstabbing. (relaxed jazz music) – In the case of Algarve, I would guess that Sky were
aiming to control the break. But it’s not quite that simple, because team orders always have
to be a little bit flexible simply because races can pan
out in so many different ways. – That’s right. So if a dangerous group
does go down the road, can even a strong and
motivated team bring them back? Well, no, not necessarily. So it is a good idea to actually have a policeman in the break down the road. – Sky were probably, rightly banking on another team
chasing down the break, saving them a job, and safe in the knowledge
that they had one of their very best riders up the road
in an armchair position. – That’s right. So in this case then,
Kwiatkowski was doing his job. The dice rolled and his
team respected him enough to give him his chance. And he duly delivered. (relaxed jazz music) – Now if you think that was complicated, brace yourself because it’s getting worse. Hierarchy. – That’s right. So bike teams have leaders
and they have domestiques. Now they’re not fixed roles, but generally for individual races they
are quite clearly defined. – Yep. Now leaders are there to try to win, and domestiques are there
to help them to win. But sometimes a leader will
play a role as a domestique to pay back a teammate for their hard work or give them a chance. And sometimes a leader
will just gift a victory to a teammate because they can afford to. – Yeah. Generally it seems that the
right thing to do within a team is to reward the underdog
wherever possible. – In this case, in Algarve, both riders are well decorated, and arguably Kwiatkowski even more so. So was he stealing a win? No, because both riders
are proven winners. – Yeah, normally, hierarchy
isn’t a problem on pro teams. ‘Cause essentially
everyone’s paid to do a job. But on national teams though, for major championships like
the Olympics or the Worlds, it can be an issue. You would’ve thought that national pride would instil loyalty in a rider, but that’s not always the case. There are many instances of a rider going for individual glory
at the expense of a team, or even worse, being paid off by another
country to work for them. – Which is pretty bad if you ask me. (relaxed jazz music) – Finally, no race can
be seen in isolation. It’s part of a season or
even multi-year-long balance. So if for example we take the case of Bernard Hinault and Greg LeMond, Hinault demanded loyalty from Greg LeMond in the 1985 Tour de
France and then promised that he would repay the
favour the following year. The year in which Greg
LeMond did go on to win, but doing so without the
committed support of his teammate. – Backstabbing. – Well, yeah. Oh how we
miss Bernard Hinault. What a legend. – Indeed, and if that’s
ever happened to you, you’ll know it’s pretty annoying. – Emma’s top five backstabbing moments coming to a screen near you. No, seriously though,
in the case of Algarve, Kwiatkowski is not only
a race-winning machine, but he is also a super loyal
domestique when he needs to be. So for example, I don’t know about you, but I remember very
clearly during last year’s Tour de France when he rode
so hard for Chris Froome that he ground to a complete
stop on an alp somewhere. – Exactly. I think the only reason
we feel short-changed in this case by a Kwiatkowski win, is that Thomas is a super
loyal teammate himself. And what goes around, comes around. – Yeah, so basically like
all things in cycling, at the end of the day it’s
about as clear as mud. Which I say is a brilliant thing, because actually it’s part of the reason why this sport is so fascinating
and I love it so much. It just makes for brilliant racing. – And maybe we should
secretly applaud backstabbing because it makes for exciting racing, and gruesome viewing in the aftermath. – It does indeed, yeah! Well, let us know what
you think about this, I think in the case of
Algarve it’s pretty clear that that was just supreme
teamwork and not backstabbing, but you might feel differently. It’s a pretty nuanced situation, so let us know what you
think constitutes teamwork, what is backstabbing, and do you like it? (she laughs quietly) (funny bugle music) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – Cycling Shorts now, and some positive news
from a part of the world which sometimes makes headlines for rather more tragic reasons, in that there was a bike ride organised in Kabul, Afghanistan. – Nice. – To raise awareness of how cycling can improve traffic
and pollution problems. It’s all part of the Bicycle
Masterplan for the city, which I think is a pretty cool title. – That is pretty cool, yeah. – Which also includes
building a load of bike lanes, which is great.
– Yep. – And, and, the race was won by a woman. Yep, Zakia Ahmadi crossed the
line first in a mixed field. – Nice work. There’s actually quite a good female cycling scene in Afghanistan, right? They’ve got a national team? – They have teams, yeah. – Fantastic. Right, now elsewhere. Winter sports fever has been
gripping the sporting world with the Winter Olympics
of course taking place. Sadly there are no cycling events, although clearly there
should be Cyclo-cross. So if anyone from the IOC is watching, instead of looking at
curling or ice hockey, then please take the hint. But nevertheless, one couple
have managed to combine the Winter Olympics and cycling. – And we don’t mean just
some gentle cycle touring. Nope, Guido Huwiler and
his wife Rita Ruttimann, they rode all the way from
their home in Switzerland to South Korea to watch
Guido’s son compete. – [Simon] That’s awesome. – That’s 17,000 kilometres, and they passed through
20 countries on the way. And they had to set off in February 2017. – [Simon] Hang on a minute, that’s probably before
the son had even qualified for the Olympics, right? – That is strong parental backing for you. – Yeah. – In fact, I’d say that’s almost deserving of a medal in its own right. Well, Mischa Gasser did
qualify for the final with his dad watching on, and personally I’ve got my fingers crossed that he makes it onto the podium, ’cause I just think it’s such a cool story of familial support. – It is, isn’t it? I tell you what, if there’s some kind of difficult history I’d probably buy the movie rights. – Mm, that would make a really cool film. – [Simon] Wouldn’t it just? – [Emma] And lots of cool
cycling along the way. – A cool new story from
New Zealand as well now. So the website News Hub ran a story about a man named Teau Aiturau, or Mr. T. Now his is a remarkable tale. He lost 100 kilogrammes of body weight after his doctor gave him a bike. – [Emma] Wow. – [Simon] Yeah! – And having changing his
own life with a bicycle, he now owns a charity that refurbishes and gives away bikes to
people that need them. Which is quite a legend. – I know, amazing. Even more good vibes now, this time from an article
posted by the bike lobby group People For Bikes, in the U.S. Now they pointed out that if you want to increase bike use in cities, you’ve just got to build
more protective bike lanes. ‘Cause in the Canadian city of Calgary, a move to do just that saw the number of people riding bikes in the city centre increase by 50% from one year to the next. – Amazing.
– Yeah. – And that’s fuel for any town
or city planners out there. Now it might be my bad influence, but I’m gonna have to
give a bit of a shout out to running this week. – What? Running? – Yep, now bear with me, because Peter Thompson is going to run the entire route of the Tour de France. – Huh.
– Yep. – Alright, fair enough. – Yep, he’s giving himself
a bit of a headstart, by seven weeks, but he’s still going to
rack up 30 miles a day to cover the full 2,069
miles of the route this year. – [Simon] Wow. – And he’s doing it for
the mental health charities Mind and Livability. And sticking with the mind, good news in that the first
blood test for concussion has just been approved
by the FDA in America. – Yeah, now a concussion is fortunately not something that affects cyclists quite as much as some other sports. But nevertheless, when it does, it of course has to be
managed appropriately. – It works by measuring the levels of two proteins in the
blood, UCHL1 and GFAP. – Two of my favourite
proteins, I think, right there. – I didn’t know about
them until you told me. But, anyway.
– Neither did I. – The brain releases them into the blood after a traumatic head injury, which means that by measuring
those levels in the blood you can avoid the need for a CT scan. – That is cool, isn’t it?
Yeah, great development there. Right, now here is a question for you. And for you, Emma. Are the UCI rules too complicated for teams to actually understand? – In fact, they’re too complicated for
most of the fans to understand. (he laughs) – Yeah, well they probably are, because at the recent Tour of Oman there was quite a farce, basically. So Adam Blythe of Team Aqua Blue, and GCN’s unofficial Head of Fashion, was actually disqualified from the race for illegal bike change. The problem was that his team car, or all the team cars there, didn’t have the complete
bikes on the roof. The bikes are mounted
without the front wheels. – Yep, and so when Blythe
needed a spare bike, the commissar allowed his
team car to pass a person, park up, and get the bike
ready with the front wheel. But that same commissar then DQ’ed Blythe because he’d taken the bike from the car by the side of the road
and not from a moving car. I mean, it does sound a
bit overly zealous to me. – It does, doesn’t it? And to be honest with you, I was wondering how one even takes a spare bike from a moving car. I mean, that’s like something
out of the A-Team, isn’t it? (Emma laughs) So, slightly bonkers, and
unfortunate for Adam Blythe. But there we go. – I mean, he’s still pretty cool. – Yeah, at least the
rule was written down, and not a flipping unwritten one. Because that really would do
your head in, wouldn’t it? – Awful. (cool dance beat) – Tech of the Week now and
Factor have just released their new ONE aerodynamic road bike. It’s available in rim
and disc brake versions, and perhaps the most notable part of it is the twin vane down tube. Basically, it’s got a massive
hole down the middle of it. – I think you’ve just made at least one engineer cry with that comment, Si. – Sorry. Okay. Particularly Inigo, designer
of Factor bikes, I am sorry. But genuinely it seems like quite a good idea for a design, really. On a carbon bike most of the material is placed on the outside of the down tube, where it’s best placed to brace it against torsion or stresses, basically, so it makes the bike stiffer. So why not just go one step further, and actually just remove the material from the middle completely? Making it more aerodynamic because you’ve got a lower frontal-on area. – Hmm. Well, other nice features, it’s got an integrated bar and stem which means you can have
fully internal cabling, which looks super neat. – I do love it when a bike
has completely hidden cables, it must be said. Right, now, at completely the
other end of the spectrum, so the chalk from our cheese
or the cheese from our chalk, how about this new All-City Cycles bike called Gorilla Monsoon? – [Emma] Good name, and it
couldn’t be more different, could it? It’s steel, 650B, and it can
run up to 2.4″ wide tyres. – [Simon] What?
(he laughs) – It’s got a gazillion
lugs for like bottle cages, and racks, and mudguards, and
it’s a super versatile bike. – Yeah. It’s kind of more of a drop
bar mountain bike, almost. It does look like an awful lot of fun, but I couldn’t help but notice, we’ve said that it
couldn’t be more different, but if you have a closer
look at those front forks, check it out! That is called a bi-plane design, much like the twin vane of the Focus. – Right, so it’s an aero,
drop-bar, mountain bike? – Yeah. Yeah, okay. – Interesting. – Yeah. (cool dance beat) – It’s time now for Racing News, which you’ll remember now has its own dedicated slot on
Monday’s Racing News show. – Indeed. We will expand a little bit more on the hot topic of the week, though, which was the fact that Chris Froome was back in action at the Ruta Andalucia. He is of course completely
entitled to do so, despite having posted an
adverse analytical finding for salbutamol, which is
a restricted substance. – So it’s a substance that is
allowed in your bloodstream, but only up to a certain level. So he’s allowed to keep
racing until a hearing, when he will be hit with
a ban unless he can prove that he didn’t ingest
too much of the drug. – Yeah, now the racing itself, what presents itself as an
interesting dynamic, didn’t it? So Froome actually said
that he was well-received by his peers, but then many of his peers went
on to say that actually no, he wasn’t well-received at all, and in fact the most outspoken rider was the eventual winner
of the event, Tim Wellens, who reportedly said that
nine out of ten riders would probably have rather that
Froome wasn’t there at all. – Interestingly, when we asked you, or Dan asked you last week
on the Racing News show, what you thought, 53% of you thought that Chris
Froome should be racing. – Yeah. Just as well he didn’t do
too much there, actually, because otherwise this
could be another event that has a black spot on
the top step of the podium if he does end up getting hit
with some kind of sanction. – I’ve heard it said that there must be some confidence that he
can avoid a sanction, if he’s carrying on
racing rather than, say, taking a reduced ban
for admitting liability or something along those lines. – Yeah, I tell you, I
am morbidly fascinated to actually find out how this pans out. But, yeah, hopefully, the sport of cycling comes out okay. Although I tell you what, actually, the actual organisers
of the bar-tan this year were thrilled to bits, because literally four
times as many journalists descended on the race as normal. So, maybe there is no such
thing as bad publicity. (machine drilling) It’s time now for Hack forward slash, nice work, bodge of the week. My favourite time of the week almost. Right, first up we’ve got
this one from Luka Gorjup. Oh my word that is terrifying. So he’s put a pair of
drop bar handlebar… brake gear levers on a
pair of flat handlebars, meaning that he effectively
can’t use the brakes. – [Emma] Yeah, that’s not nice. – [Simon] No, I think
that’s probably a bodge, that one, isn’t it? Yeah. – [Emma] Looks a bit dangerous to me. – Yeah, yeah, please don’t do that. In fact, take them off,
right now, otherwise. – Get some brakes, working
brakes, very important. – Yeah, okay, right, next up
we’ve got Christopher Deane. Now this one, Emma, I really like. He reckons he’s made a turbo trainer rocker plate for under ten bucks. So basically that gives the
turbo a little bit of movement when he’s riding out of the saddle, and look at that! An inner tube zip-tied to a board, with another board placed on
top to give him his suspension. Do you reckon that’ll work? – [Emma] Quite possibly. It’s not pretty. I think he could at least have painted the board a nice colour. It just looks a bit. – [Simon] Do you think you’d
get pretty for ten bucks? – [Emma] Yeah, to be fair, the paint probably cost more than that. (Simon laughs) – [Simon] He’s doubled the
price here, but it looks nice. – I’ve never had one
of these rocker things, maybe I should try. Maybe it’d make turboing even more fun. Right, well this one I spotted, and Dave King has produced an initially quite confusing-looking
contraption for his kitchen, using his saddle and handlebars
from his bike from the 60s. He says it brings back nostalgic memories of happy rides and long
days in the saddle, and I think that’s really sweet. Except that I’m just confused why anyone would want to spend
extra time on a bike saddle. – Well, I don’t know, the thing that’s confusing me is that is a massive saddle to bar drop there. It’s gonna put him in a
pretty un-aero position actually despite the distance. – [Emma] I think the bars
are for his feet to rest on. – [Simon] Okay.
– [Emma] Yeah. – [Simon] Yeah alright,
that makes more sense. Oh, that’s quite a hack then, actually. – [Emma] Yeah, I think it’s pretty cool. I do wonder if he also sits in the kitchen in his bike shorts. (Simon laughs)
Make it more comfy. – Yeah, that doesn’t
count as training time. It might be chamois time
but it’s not training time. – No. – Right, next up we got this. – Oh, that was a hack, wasn’t it? – [Simon] Yeah, it was a hack. – [Emma] Yeah.
– [Simon] Yeah! A hack! Simon Keyes spotted an
interesting solution to walking the dog, which is presumably if you
don’t want to walk your dog, you want to ride with your dog. Getting myself out of hot water there. (Emma laughs)
Right, anyway. Frankly this looks horrific, (comical boinging) but basically he’s got two dog leads attached to the back of the bike. (makes exasperated noise) – [Emma] Maybe his dog is super fast, and he just can’t keep up walking. – Well, that is true actually. Have you seen those running events where you get towed by a dog? – Canicross, yeah, it’s
a big deal in Belgium. I had a DS whose daughter
was, like, world champion. – There we go.
– Yeah. – So maybe if you put the
leads on the other end of your bike you could just
get towed, like an e-bike. – [Emma] I actually saw that once, I saw like a sledge with
wheels and some huskies, training in summer, dragging the sledge. – [Simon] That’s quite cool actually. – [Emma] Yeah. It was really weird. – Well, maybe you’re
on to something, Simon. Lastly, from Ed Rush, he reckons he’s built
his own chain tensioner out of zip ties. I’m not sure you have, Ed. That is my first reaction. Emma, what’s your reaction to this one? – [Emma] I have to confess
I’ve never used a singles bead or a fixie so I’ve never had
to have a chain tensioner. You explain. – [Simon] Well, so my thoughts. I think you’ve tensioned the
chain above the chain stay, where it’s gonna be under
load when you start pedalling. So presumably this was about to fail several seconds after you took the photo and actually turned a pedal. So I think that might be a bodge. (comical boinging) – [Emma] And also, that looks
terrible, those cable ties. At least use black cable ties. (Simon laughs) – Good point. Very good point. Right, well, do make
sure you keep your hacks and bodges coming in using
the hashtag #GCNHACK. We love ’em. And next week, we’ve got Hack
of the Month coming up for ya. – Ooh!
– Oh yeah. (cool dance beat) – Now to Caption of the Week! Big moment, where we give you a photo, you give us a caption, and
someone wins a big prize. – Oh yeah. Now, first of all, we have to give an honorary
mention to Malcolm McDermott. Unfortunately you haven’t won,
but you probably know why. Even if you did make us laugh. So, the winner of the
Camelback GCN water bottle for this week is MOW184 who said, “Hey Marcel, that’s really aero and all “but you do actually need to
be on the bike not beside it.” (drum crashing) – And that’s a good point. – Yeah, that made me chuckle. – So now to the photo this
week, which is of Jesús Herrera. – Crikey, that’s some
pronunciation right there, that’s not what we’re used to here on GCN. – At Tour Le Mans, I believe. – Yeah, okay, shall I get us started? Jesús, if you needed the toilet, the porta-loos are just over there. (Emma laughs) Little bit of a laugh? – I think it was pretty good, yeah. – Okay, right. – You might have just
ruined half the entries. – Well, I suggest you don’t
go down the porta-loo route. Anyway, it’s up for grabs,
the GCN water bottle, get stuck in in the
comment section down below. We’ll pick the winner
and find out next week. Jesús Herrera. – Herrera. (Simon garbles) Gotta roll your R’s. If you can’t roll your R’s then you can’t. – Herrera. – Herrera is two R’s and. – Herrera. Jesús Herrera. Oh, (bleep). (Emma laughs) (cool dance beat) Right, before we get on to what is coming up on the channel next week, how about having a little look through under some of the great
comments that you’ve been leaving on the videos from last week, particularly loads and loads of great ones under our Commute Aero videos. So how much faster is one bike
luggage compared to another? This one from Laurent Parmentier. “This was completely unnecessary,
and I quite like it.” That’s kinda how we felt, innit? – [Emma] Yeah, and then CnE said, “Go commando at the office?
Pants and socks, wasted watts.” Good point, and he did
it in rhyming couplets. – Yeah, so I read that
actually last night, and I followed his advice. – We didn’t need that.
We did not need that. (Simon laughs quietly) – Yeah, you stick ’em on your side. – Yep, okay. – I’ll deal with the pants.
– Yeah. – Right, sorry, moving swiftly on then, how about this from trbeyond, “Loved the video, glad you
talked about the yaw factor, “but what about the boss factor? “i.e. I’m gonna be late to work “unless I kick it into high gear? “Seems like the boss factor might be “the most important
aerodynamic option of all.” I’m not sure about the
aerodynamics of the boss factor, but yeah, motivation is high
when you’re gonna be late, isn’t it?
– Yep, yep. I reckon I got most of my training back in the day when I
was late for something and had to peg it to get there on time. (they laugh) – Right, now, another
big comment piece on GCN, was actually last week’s GCN Show, where we asked the question
of whether bike shops were actually worth fighting for. – Yep, we had well over 1,000 comments, and 65% of you were in favour
of supporting local bike shops. But there was a lot of displeasure voiced by people who didn’t like
crappy local bike shops. – [Simon] That’s right. So the moral of the story seems to be that we should all support
good local bike shops. – [Emma] Yes. – [Simon] And then hopefully
quality will win out. – So this week coming
up for you on Wednesday, we have how to save energy, on Thursday we have the biggest bike team, on Friday indoor training
with the Yates twins of Mitchells and Scott. – I’m looking forward to that one. Saturday, we’ve got
meet your new presenter! – Oh. – That’s right, it’s you, Emma. Check it out, including the
trip to ASSOS, am I right? – Yep. – Nice. Sunday we’ve got a behind
the scenes with Fabric. They made the saddles that Matt and I used whilst we tried to follow you
up tarm-um-cay-um challenge. – The bikes were really heavy, I heard. – That’s right, that
was what held us back. (clears throat) Anyway, moving swiftly on, Monday’s of course the Racing News Show, and then we’ll be right back
here Tuesday for the GCN Show. (heavy rock riff) Now we’re getting towards
the end of the show, but there is still time – as
always – for Extreme Corner. Nice work!
– Is that right? – Yeah, it is, yeah, spot on. Now this week we have,
it’s mind-blowing actually, this is Adolf Silva attempting a 90 foot gap jump backflip at the recent DarkFest. That means a lot to you, doesn’t it? – I assume it’s some kind of
cool festival of coolness. – Yeah, pretty much. (alternative rock music) – [Commentator] Who’s that
now? This is Adolf Silva! (crowd cheers loudly) He’s upside down! Holding it together. – [Audience Member] Oh my god, bro. – [Commentator] Yes, there’s the winner! (slow motion howling) – Oh my word! That is, yeah, that is, isn’t it? I mean fair play to him
for riding that out. – I’m petrified just looking at it. – Yeah, Matt would’ve crashed for sure. I reckon we’d have ridden
it out, wouldn’t we? – No. I think anybody would have crashed! (Simon laughs) – Well, yeah, fair enough.
– It’s just insane! – Well, yeah. It’s not bad knocking your
head on the handlebars, and having your hand drag along the floor, and still managing to ride it out. But there we go, anyway, to put some kind of context
around a 90 foot gap jump, which probably doesn’t mean
very much to most of us, here is another angle of said jump. Not the fateful jump, but anyway. See! 90 foot gap jump,
that’s a big gap jump. – [Emma] That is huge. – Yeah. – Anyway, I have noticed
that you have a blue jumper, which is rather nice. – Thanks, Emma, yeah,
I’m glad you noticed, I’m glad you mentioned. So this is, in all seriousness, this is part of a new range that has just landed in the GCN shop, a load of new colours of
t-shirts and sweatshirts as well. And yep, the navy blue is part of it. Oh yeah, and also, GCN fan kit. We’ve got that stealth camo chain link, which I really like, actually. So make sure you head over to to go check those out. – And don’t forget to give us a thumbs up, and if you would like to check out our Commute Aero challenge
which was just last week, click down here! – That’s right. What is
the best commuter luggage? Hmm.

100 comments on “When Does Teamwork Become Back-Stabbing? | The GCN Show Ep. 267

  1. Hey GCN. Did you know that your water bottles, produced by Camelbak, come from a company that is owned by Vista Outdoor, one of the largest munitions producers in the US? In light of recent events in Florida, don’t you think you might do something to pressure this/these companies to divest themselves of this insidious business? Btw, Vista Outdoor also owns Giro 😫

  2. Love Emma's addition to the crew. The show however is getting a little TOO scripted. The puns, segues and jokes are getting a little stiff folks. Some natural improvisation would be great 🙂 Cheers … love the show still …

  3. Why would any potential ban for Froome have to be Retro Active. Presumably any race he's in will include loads of testing. So why does the UCI create this problem by making any…. Potential… Ban Retro Active. I don't get it🙄

  4. Caption: hey! I know you're 1st place and 5 minutes ahead of everyone but it is not the best time to be taking a break at the bottom of this hill

  5. The third scenario except winning Volta by Kwiatkowski or Thomas is winning this race by someone else. You miss this possibility, and it was realy real. Gerraint will hove KWiatkowski as super powerfull domestique in Vuelta so take it easy. And dont input us that Kwiatkowski is someone worse in case of sport class than Thomas. His Palmeras looks much more impressive than Thomas palmeras…

  6. Matt’s interview with Emma the other week, Emma said she is bringing out a recipe book, any news on its release yet??👍 #torqueback

  7. @Global Cycling Network Does it matter how your bikes weight distributes back and forth wise? What if the balance point is closer to rear wheel than front? Does it matter on a road bike?

  8. Loving Emma's comments on the aesthetics of the hacks/bodges. Loving Emma in general, really. So glad she's part of the team now!

  9. Caption: erm… where's my bike…
    Caption: the first test for worlds smallest bike goes wrong. Surgery may be required.

  10. CAPTION: Could I bother you to turn the bottle label out? Millions will see this shot on GCN and the sponsors will want to make the most of it.

  11. Caption: After losing the water-bottle flip challenge, Jesus sat down , drank the rest of the water, and had a good cry.

  12. The dog attachment is quite common in Norway, it's called a Springer, or Dogman. Not bad at all, but made a horrible scuff on my old British Racing Green Specialized Rochopper FS back in the nineties. Think my sister still uses that frame actually..

  13. Can we get the guys to try out Renovo's wooden bikes? I was looking at them and thought they looked cracking. Also can they see the pro peloton using them over carbon bikes? #torqueback

  14. Lmao the boss factor is my biggest aid every time you let the speed drop below 25 you might get fired today lmao keep attacking till your legs don’t hurt anymore.

  15. Caption: For crying out loud, Jesus, I tried to tell you that Peter Sagan was the only one that could drink that stuff and make it to the finish line.

  16. Good work by Emma on her rolling R!! Caption: Jesus, i don't think you're gonna find your wedding ring, next time leave it in the bus.

  17. I am a kid with an avg of 33 in the uae,I wish to become a professional cyclist. What’s the best way for someone to notice me

  18. That dog walking solution was a real product; curved bar, spring and all. I remember seeing it in a US cycling magazine in the early 1990’s.

  19. Caption: You're supposed to drink the water, not spit it out. Now get down and lick it off the ground!

  20. I wonder with all the talk about self driving cars, if bikes will become even more popular across the world as people realize their freedom to transport on their own accord will be taken away. They will crave that freedom, and biking will be the only mode of transport not taken over by computer. Your thoughts? Or maybe do a piece on the impact of driverless cars on cyclists in the future?

  21. Maybe it's because I'm a lousy Yank, but I can't understand half of what Emma says. Perhaps if she wouldn't speak so fast….

  22. Kwiatkowski's palmares prove he should play second fiddle to no one. Perhaps the plan was always to get K-ski in the right break to take the lead in the end. Thomas was the actual Red Herring.

  23. Sorry Simon, (don't know if this comment will reach you given this is an Episode from January) BUT it rolls up my toothnails hearing Kwiatkowski pronounced kind of "English". It's in Polish not [cow-ski] but [cough-ski], the ending "ow" is pronounced [off] as the Russian "ov". Sorry again…

  24. regaotrding bike lanes; here in Toronto Canada , most car drivers consider them as passing lanes. the legality of making a passing turn makes no difference to them at all, unlike a red stop light, for instance.

    for this reason, i ride in the car lane, and force all traffic behind me to the left, giving me at least 3 / 4 feet of clearance when they try to sideswipe me

    i take the entire lane if needed because the roads are like riding on a jackhammer in the city core. you would need full shocks to ride even close to comfy here, but you still need to take the lane and go even slower.

  25. Nobody could possibly calculate those figures in the beginning of the show, with any accuracy or substance. (e.g. no one is mentioning the millions <yes, millions> of over produced Ride Share bikes piled up & abandoned in many Chinese cities, blocking streets and jamming already overcrowded infrastructure, & the cost of impounding them. Or, just the difference in the standards of living, affecting how & what criteria were used to arrive at those figures, which of course, were not stated. It's apples and oranges, just to name 2 of MANY examples that make it inequitable.) If you're implying that the U.S. should be more like China… LOL I don't think so. My personal experience from living all over the globe, is that just the opposite is true.

  26. Teamwork turns to backstabbing, ah yes. A bit like asking when a fight turns into a hockey game, isn't it?

  27. Do not tie your dog to a bike. The animal can't stop when he needs to cool off or catch his/her breath when he wants/needs to. It's cruel.

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