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Why Hardening The F*** Up Isn’t The Answer, But Why It Might Help | The GCN Show Ep. 306

Why Hardening The F*** Up Isn’t The Answer, But Why It Might Help | The GCN Show Ep. 306

– Hello, my name’s Travis,
and welcome to the GCN Show. – Welcome to the GCN Show,
brought to you by Wiggle. – This week, we discuss new
evidence in the big debate, do you really need to harden
the flip up for cycling? – We’ve also got Wout Van Aert, E-bikes saving the world yet again, and we’ve even got some quantum physics. – Do, we haven’t really not
quantum physics, have we? – Of course we haven’t, no, no chance. (energetic electronic music) (logo swooshing) This week in the world of cycling, we learned that one of
professional cycling’s best descenders wants to get even better. Here is Vincenzo Nibali
practicing his descents on gravel. – Wow, he is really shifting, isn’t he? This doesn’t look much like the Poggio, but imagine if this was the finale to Milan-San Remo next year. Wouldn’t that be amazing?
– It would be, and if it was, I have to say my money would
be on his brother Antonio, because look, he’s
keeping up with Vincenzo whilst filming him, so
he’s only got one hand. – That is a very good point, isn’t it? Right, now we also learned this week that our recent rule-breaking
hyper bike video actually has one more illegal
thing in it than we thought. – Yeah, unfortunately it’s
not the mullet though. Not even the mustache, in
fact, but it’s the socks. (tape rewinding) Last week the UCI announced that next year they are going to be applying a much-due riding maximum sock length rule. Although slightly worryingly, there appears to still be
no minimum sock length. – I’m normally quite supportive of the UCI, Dan, but frankly, that is disgusting.
– It is disgusting. – No minimum. Still, Mitch Docker’s gonna
be breathing a sigh of relief that his mullet’s not illegal. – [Dan] Yeah, and Kiel Reijnen too. – Yeah. Seeing those quite tempts me
to grow my own mullet back. – [Dan] No, don’t do that, mate, please. – No? Okay. Right, now we also learned
this week that actually, it’s the perception of pain,
rather than the pain itself, which is really holding you back from riding faster and harder. – That’s right, this is
from a two-part study conducted by Samuele Marcora and his colleagues in
Progress in Brain Research. – Oh, I love that one. – The conclusion of which was that it is that your perception of effort
that’s the limiting factor in exercise performance when
you’re in a fatigued state. – I.e., great news, you’re actually able to ride harder than you think you can. Just harden the flip up. Now, what’s particularly
interesting about this research, I think, is that it looks like it builds on the central governor theory that was actually first proposed by the now slightly controversial
physiologist, Tim Noakes. – His theory being that your brain limits how hard you can push yourself as a kind of form of
self-preservation, really, like a rev limiter, in effect. However, Marcora’s research suggests that that rev limiter
can be moved slightly, based on your own perception. This tested in their labs,
with volunteers subjected to what is known in the
industry as a cold press. – Oh.
– Don’t know that is. – No, I don’t know what one of those is, and I can pretty much guarantee that their volunteers didn’t
know what one of those was either when they
signed up for the test. Now, from this, the first
thing to take is that actually this is not about trying
harder on your bike, ’cause it is, of course,
about your perception. So instead, maybe the message should be about how you try and make the effort of cycling actually just seem less. – So instead of HTFU, broken
down into much simpler terms, it’s more about just having
pleasure on the bike, really. – Yeah. – So you can get a performance benefit from riding with people
you like in amazing places whilst riding in beautiful sunshine. – Yeah. Actually, hang on a
minute, no, not so fast, ’cause cycling can’t always be nice. So maybe then the key
here is to make cycling seem nice more of the
time by making it really, really horrible at least some of the time. Maybe then there is actually a point in hardening the flip up. – I have a feeling that the
vast majority of our viewers watching this will be looking at two scrawny, middle-aged cyclists– – Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, hang on, what? I’m significantly younger than you, mate. – All right, two scrawny,
approaching middle age cyclists, and thinking–
– Thanks, mate. – They of course need to HTFU,
look at the state of them. However, what we say is
that harden the (beep) up is not about brawn and muscle, thankfully. It’s more about suffering. – That’s right, and we
cyclists know how to suffer, which is, as Dan said, just as well, because we have neither
muscle nor brawn either. At this point, Dan, I suppose I can say hopefully the suffering
is there for a reason. ‘Cause for many of us, I mean, we’re going into the winter, aren’t we? A time of cold, wet, windy, miserable.
– Oh, man. – Suffering-type rides.
– Yes. Ultimately though, I think whether or not we need to harden the
(beep) up comes down to what you want to achieve
as a cyclist, isn’t it? If you really want to
compete at your best, you’re gonna have to have a degree of resilience and toughness, and certainly the ability
to hurt yourself a lot. – Yeah, agreed. There aren’t many pro cyclists who’ve got to the top
without that ability. Let’s look at Annemiek van
Vleuten as a prime example. She won her first race back
following the horrific crash at the Rio Olympics where she sustained multiple fractures and
facial scars as well. – I know, that was amazing. But likewise, Philippe Gilbert
won his first race back, just weeks after breaking his knee at this crash at the Tour de France, in a stage which remarkably,
he went on to finish. – Yeah, although unlike van Vleuten, he then went on to compare
his comeback to Muhammad Ali. – That’s right, he did, didn’t he? Although like Gilbert, van
Vleuten also broke her knee, even more recently this year
at the World Championships, and she finished in the
top 10 with a broken knee. – Yeah, mighty impressive, that, isn’t it? But potentially one thing for the pros, another for the rest of us. If you don’t want to race or smash sportives and Gran
Fondos, does it really matter? – I think that would make a difference. I mean, if you wake up in the morning planning to go on a group ride and you peer out of the curtain and it’s truly atrocious
outside, why would you do it? I mean, is there any shame
in just texting your friends and saying, I’ve seen the
weather and I think I might just stay at home next to
the fire, sipping a beer, or I might go on Zwift and train indoors. I don’t think there should be any shame, really, in wimping out, even though I’ve just
described it as wimping out. For most people, it’s
not a job, it’s a hobby, so why would you put
yourself through that? – For the sense of achievement
and because it is fun. I mean, type two fun, maybe, but we can all associate with that, when actually the ride is only enjoyable after you’ve got home and
warmed up with a cup of tea. And actually, let’s not
beat around the bush. Indoor training is
probably the most painful kind of training that you can do. I mean, there are times when
I’m in the middle of a session and my core body temperature
is through the absolute roof and I’m just longing to be outside with freezing toes and
completely numb hands. You know what I mean. – Well, I guess whether you’re
riding indoors or outside, there’s always gonna be a degree
of hurt involved, isn’t it? Because that is what leads to
increases in physical fitness. If you’re a cyclist, you are going to be used to hurting yourself to some degree, because that is how you get
better as a cyclist, isn’t it? – Yeah, absolutely. You know where I’m at with this, Dan? Harden the (beep) up to make
the good days even better. – Well, there you go. Clearly stated, Si.
– Absolutely, mate. – This, as you know, is the point at which we ask your opinion. Do you yourself find that you
need to harden the (beep) up to get more out of yourself as a cyclist? Let us know in the comments
section down below. – I reckon you do, mate.
– I think I do, yeah. (laid back electronic music) It’s time for our little
plug of the GCN shop now, which we’ve moved forward in the show for fairly obvious reasons. – Well, that’s right. I’m sure you’ve all been sat
there, going, hang on minute. Are Si and Dan wearing
sort of metallic edition limited Black Friday T-shirts? – We are.
– Yeah, you’d be right. – What they’re not surprised about at all is the fact that you’ve got
silver and I’ve got gold. (Si snapping) Huh, looks like you’ve just
suddenly been promoted. Well-done, Si.
– In the absence of Emma, I don’t feel like either of
really deserve it, do we? – No, fair enough.
– Anyway, there we go. – Anyway, along with the T-shirts and the long sleeved T-shirts
which Si is now sporting very well.
– With my muscles and brawn. – Well, you’ve got a double
T-shirt going on now, so that’s helped you slightly, hasn’t it? – Yes, well.
– But we’ve also got special gold edition fan kit. I really like this jersey, actually. Check that one out.
– That’s cool, isn’t it? – Along with the jersey,
there is also a casquette with the special gold part underneath if you’re a peak-up kind of person. And also these gold edition socks. They’re all available
for a limited time only. You’ve got until the 28th of November. And they’re all at a special price, even though they’re the same quality as we normally have over on the GCN shop. – Yeah, and don’t forget as
well that the November sale that we announced last week
is still going as well. So whilst you’re over there
checking out this stuff, you will, of course, see some pretty cool discounts on other stuff as well. – Yep,, or there’s a link in the
description below this video. (laid back electronic music) It is time now for GCN’s
Weekly Inspiration, with your weekly chance to win
either 50 pounds, 75 pounds, or 100 pounds of vouchers to
spend on Wiggle’s online shop. – That’s right, and if you
haven’t got the message yet, it is weekly as well. Right, starting with third place, this is an absolute belter
of a shot, isn’t it? This is sent in by Alan,
riding a 1989 Bridgestone NB6. But let’s face it, that view. That’s pretty cool, isn’t it? That’s on Maui, in Hawaii. It’s the climb of Haleakala? 10,000 feet, apparently. – [Dan] I’ve got no idea if
that’s right or wrong, Si. I’m guessing wrong. But there’s no feeling like getting above the clouds, is there? – No.
– It can feel like quite a dreary day, can’t it, when you’re down towards sea level. And when you get to that point where you just go above them,
it’s an amazing feeling. – Oh, it’s fantastic, isn’t it? What I want to know is where
that zebra crossing goes. – In fact, had I been at the bottom, as he probably was when
he started his ride, I probably would’ve
called my mates and said, I’m sorry, I probably won’t
come out for today’s ride. – There you go. That is one reason–
– And I would’ve missed out. – Why you–
– I would’ve missed out. – Why you HTFU.
– Yes. – Right, what’s up next, Dan? – Yeah, second place goes to Will. This is an Islabike Cnoc 14. “My son George learned
to ride his pedal bike, “having just turned three in June. “This was the first day
on the first of September “that he rode his bike
until the sun went down.” – [Simon] Yeah, wow. – [Dan] “As the sun set,
he stepped off his bike “and asked if he could do the
same thing the following day.” And I think that is an inspiration
to all of us, isn’t it? We all remember our first rides on a bike. And as we’re now parents,
Si, we definitely remember our kids’ first time without stabilizers. – We do, we do, yeah.
– A major moment. – We’ve still got first place to announce. This is one sent in by Philip. And this actually sent in from the south coast of
England, Beachy Head. Look at that, wow. – [Dan] Isn’t that an amazing shot? – [Simon] Isn’t it just. Now, you might not be a bikepacker, but that kind of makes you want to go and sleep in a tent, doesn’t it? – [Dan] Yes. It’s like they’re at the Northern Lights in Norway somewhere, isn’t it, not on the South Downs in the UK. But that is a stunning photo. – Now, it also, I’ve gotta say, Dan, that actually makes me
very nervous, that shot. For those of you that know Beachy Head, you’ll know that there’s a huge cliff. And well, I’m a sleepwalker. So I wouldn’t guarantee that
I wouldn’t open the tent and just stroll off the edge. So yeah, I look at that
and think that’s amazing. I’m gonna camp somewhere a bit safer. – I would’ve got up in the morning, thinking you’d wimped out
of the following day’s ride. Little did I know that you’re
off the edge of a cliff. Anyway, if you’d like to get involved with the Weekly Inspiration,
you probably know what to do, but I’ll remind you anyway. The hashtag is #gcninspiration
over on Instagram. Or if you would like to use our uploader, there’s a link to that
in the description below. I think all of them were
from the uploader this week. Yes, they were. (triumphant trumpeting)
(drum reverberating) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – We’ll start Cycling
Shorts with some good news. No matter what training you’ve been doing, your power to weight ratio
might just have improved, although only if you work in kilos. – Well, not technically if
you work in kilos either. – All right, all right.
– But we did think that the news coming out of the General Conference
of Weights and Measures was of interest to all of
us weight-obsessed cyclists. So over there, they
had what they described as an emotional vote.
– Oh, I can imagine. – And what that means is that
the definition of a kilogram has changed from the physical international prototype
kilogram to Planck’s constant. – Yeah, now as you know, we
are pretty well-qualified physicists here, aren’t we?
– We are, yeah. – But even so, we’ll
probably steer clear of that, describing and explaining
quantum, you know. – We’re joking, of course. What we should really stick to are tires and friction, generally. – Yeah, absolutely. – Good at that.
– Yeah. (dramatic music) No, sorry about that one. We did do our best, but clearly we need to go back to the drawing boards, with our GCN does science
glasses on this time and have another crack at
our cornering non-experiment. So if you are a qualified stunt person who is also relatively handy on a bike, or indeed, you’re a physicist that knows the difference between,
well, friction and grip and all sorts of stuff,
then please get in touch. – Yeah, please do get in touch. What’s important with
this, is that firstly, you are willing to come
up at very high speed, but secondly, you’re insured to do so. That’s an important qualification. – The physicist doesn’t
need to crash, do they? Not necessarily.
– No, no. – Just the stunt person.
– Yes, that’s right. All right, moving on to Wout Van Aert, who’s been slipping down
the order a little bit in cyclocross at the
World Cup at the weekend. But he’s still cheerful. Here’s a video of him over
at SRAM’s HQ in the US of A. And isn’t he cheerful? – Oh yeah.
– My goodness, he’s spreading cheer all around the office and oozing his passion for cyclocross, and spreading it to everybody else. – And when people ask me,
do you like working here? I tell them no. I love working here. The people are great,
and I’m very involved. I make sure SRAM products can
handle extreme punishment. I go to meetings. I help in the kitchen. Are you gonna finish this? – Inspirational stuff right there, wow. I did enjoy that video though.
– Yeah, I did too. Right, sticking with office-based
cyclists for a moment, albeit one that’s recently retired, Simon Gerrans updated the world on what he’s gonna be doing now. He’s just taken an athlete internship at Goldman Sachs investment bank. There we go.
– Over in London. – Yeah.
– If he’s half as canny off the bike, Si, as
he was as a bike rider, I think he’ll make a hell of
a banker. Won’t that be nice? At least whilst he’s in London now he’ll be able to have a
guilt-free beer, won’t he? – Well yeah.
– Retired, a bit like me. Although I did see this tweet from Thomas De Gendt the other
day, and it appears that he, a current pro rider, also
enjoys a fair few beers. – Yeah.
– Check that out. – [Simon] He’s swapped
his vice for sausages for one of beer. He’s like a man after your
own heart now, isn’t he? – Good taste too, Tripel
Karmeliet is in there. Love that one. – Right, completely
changing the subject now to a very interesting piece of research that was actually commissioned by Uber and carried out by the Steer Group. And it was into the use of E-bikes in two major cities, London and New York. And they have worked out
that if those two cities really take E-bikes to their hearts, we’re not entirely sure
what the criteria are here, but that it would reduce,
or replace, rather, 812,000 car journeys per day in London, reducing 154 tons of CO2 per day. And in New York, it would be 300 tons of CO2 less emitted in the atmosphere. Isn’t that bonkers?
– Amazing statistics, aren’t they? One of the
stats I most liked, actually, was that when Uber trialed their Jump E-bikes over in San Francisco, during that trial there was
10% less demand for their cars. Now, whatever you think about E-bikes, I know there’s plenty of people out there that hate the things, but I mean, that’s gotta be a really
good thing, hasn’t it? – Yeah, it’s a separate thing, isn’t it, an E-bike for transport
and an E-bike for sport. Now moving on, last week we suggested you put a note in your diaries
for the World Bicycle Relief Charity Auction that is now
ongoing, actually, as we speak. But we’ve got another
one for you this week, because Team Dimension Data
have got three of their ex-pro bikes up for grabs at the moment, the proceeds for which will
go to the Qhubeka charity. They’ve got Cav’s, haven’t they? – They have yeah.
– As one of the three. Boasson Hagen’s, Steve Cummings’, and Mark Cavendish as well. – Unique opportunity right there. And as Cav pointed out,
it’s even more unique because it’s one of the few
he didn’t crash last year. Cav said that himself on Twitter, so I feel like I can get away with it too. Incidentally, Team Dimension Data have just had their first get-together for the forthcoming road
season down in Cape Town. And that, once again this year, was the scene for the finale
of the men’s Zwift Academy. They went through a few more trials over the last week and
they’ve got their winner. So riding for Team Dimension
Data’s Continental squad next year will the 19-year
old Slovenian, Martin Laviric. – Oh, congratulations, Martin.
– Well done, him. – That’s a pretty good opportunity, that, isn’t it, to understate the situation. Anyway, last thing for Cycling Shorts. So we settled the age-old
question last week, can you ride a pump track on a road bike? Turns out that yes, you can. And if you’re Blake from GMBN, then you definitely can, and
much better than a roadie. ♪ It really came as no surprise ♪ ♪ Looking up to her, and every time ♪ ♪ That I came close to
making moves of her ♪ – Yeah, it was basically obvious that he was gonna be
a lot better than you. – Well yeah.
– Even on a road bike. Wasn’t it?
– Yeah. – Well, it also turned out
that Andrew got there first, having taken a slight detour whilst bikepacking the length of the UK. – Yeah, how cool is that? Stopped off at a local pump
track with a massive saddlebag. Now incidentally, there’s
a video up on GMBN now where I then tackle the pump track, but on a mountain bike this time. You can see that one now.
– I haven’t seen that. Are you any better than
you were on the road bike? – I think he just wants to show off, ’cause I think he can jump. I want to see him jump. Whoa, whoa, okay. I see what he did there. – Well, a little bit
better, but not by much. Anyway, I’ll let you judge. – [Dan] I will. (laid back electronic music) – Now, some of you may well remember that we’ve used Schindelhauer Bikes before in some of our urban videos. And we’ve always been impressed
with the quality of them. So we reckon it’s certainly
worthy of a shout-out for that fact that for 2019 they’re releasing four new urban E-bikes. – Yeah, I like these bikes. And one of the things I like
about them is their names. So well, they’re not
called the Schindelhauer Carbo Evo SLE Super Mega Turbo 5000, but they’re actually
called people’s names. So yeah, well Adam has a
MAHLE hub motor on the rear, and Heinrich, Karl, and Hannah all have Bosch motors in the frame. And Karl, get this.
– Go on. The world’s first single-speed bike powered by a Bosch motor. – I doff my cap to you there, Karl. Very good. Now, what I reckon is so,
so cool about these as well is the fact that they use belt drives. So it’s really clean and tidy, isn’t it? And I just think that, you know, that is probably the
future for urban bikes. In the past–
– Yeah, it’s kinda the low maintenance of it. – Yeah, in the past I
was a little bit unsure. I thought, oh, is it really necessary? But actually, most people
who use a bike around town absolutely hate cleaning them, don’t they? So that certainly gets the shout-out. (drill whirring) – It is time now for Hack
forward slash Bodge of the Week. And we’ve got a lot to
get through this week, so let’s crack on. – I hope that means there’s lots of hacks, and not very many bodges.
– Well, let’s see. I’m deeming the first one a hack, despite it looking like a bodge. It’s from Kayne Constantine. This is message from him on
Facebook in which he said, “How’s this for a bloody hack?” And although that’s quite
an arrogant thing to say, I kind of agree with you, Kayne. – [Simon] That is brilliant. I’ve been wondering what to do with my ironing board for
the last 15 years or so. You’ve probably been wondering– – Well, that’s new, isn’t it?
– Where my ironing board is. – [Simon] But look at that,
now I know what to do with it. That is amazing. – [Dan] It looks remarkably
stable, doesn’t it? – [Simon] Is his front brake lever hooked over the other foot? – [Dan] Well, I think no, the front wheel is just resting on the bottom, isn’t it? – Genius.
– Absolute genius. – [Simon] Love it, there’s
even clearance for the cranks to turn and everything. Right, fair play, that is a bloody hack. Okay, next up we’ve got
this one from Tom Mulqueen. “Had to replace a pair of
pads in an event recently, “and the retaining pin was goosed, “so I had to improvise with
a little bit of brake cable.” Nice.
– Yes. – [Simon] What’s that little thing he’s held it in place with,
Dan? I don’t know what that is. Is it from a plug? – [Dan] It’s probably from
something like that, Si. I never get involved
in anything like that. I just tend to do the washing up at home. Get somebody that knows what he’s doing, and with brawn and muscle
to sort everything else out. Anyway, I’m saying that’s a hack. Next up, this from Merlin. “Made a chain catcher guide
of an old GoPro mount, “mounting it on a one-by
crossbar at the rear derailleur.” I’d say that is a pretty good hack.
– Yeah. – [Simon] I think that’s
a good hack, yeah. – He’s kind of hacked it, hasn’t he? – Well, I mean–
– If it works it’s a hack. – [Simon] Three hacks out of three so far. Well, this is good. – [Dan] This next one’s from Joe Earley, who’s the son of Martin Earley. He’s been enjoying some mountain bike riding a little recently. But yesterday his old man,
Martin, sent this over. He’s a former Tour de France cyclist, if you don’t know who he is.
Night riding, 1990 style. – [Simon] Wow, look at
that motorbike light. – Yeah.
– That is amazing. – [Dan] A visible reminder
of what it used to be like to ride at night on a bike with it, because they were just terrible, the old. We don’t realize how lucky we are now. – [Simon] Yeah, it’s incredible, isn’t it? The size of my front light,
how much power it pumps out, compared to the size of the
front light I had in 1993 when I tried to go mountain biking. Yeah, crazy.
– I feel so old. This is what we used to
have to put up with, kids. Right, next up, this genius, Si. It’s from Jack, in his home garage. “After upgrading bottle cages, “the paint on my old ones
started to chip away. “I thought it would be a
shame to just throw it away “when coincidentally
needing a bike mount.” Look at that. – [Simon] Wow, that’s amazing. You know, I’ve never a spare
aluminum bottle cage before. They always break before they go, before I could glue them
or screw them to the roof. – [Dan] Well, you are so
tight that you’d wait for them to break for you use them
for anything else anyway. – [Simon] Oh yeah, there’d be no problem with that paint chipping off on any of these bottle
cages, as far I can see. – [Dan] Well, this one’s
definitely a bodge, Si. It comes in from Doug, but I thought you would
sympathize with him. “Just trying to stay warm,” he put. He’s got gaffer tape
holding up some leg warmers. You have the same problem with
arm warmers often, don’t you? – [Simon] Yeah, and sometimes
leg and knee warmers. Not at the moment, thankfully, but yes. In years past I have had, yes. – I once received arm warmers when I was sponsored by the
Rally Mountain Bike Team that were so big, I just
used them as leg warmers. They were perfectly the right length, and they weren’t too tight either. – See, muscles and brawn. – [Dan] Right, we’re gonna have to keep rapidly going through on this. I love these last and
I want to get them in. This, from thistles_tails on Instagram, has used some old inner tubes to keep his dog’s bandage waterproofed. I just love the photo for that one. And we’ll finish with a bodge, which I think could be a hack, really, because I know while that
looks like an almighty bodge– – [Simon] Why is it a bodge then? – [Dan] Well, don’t know what I’m saying. – [Simon] It’s a bodge
that could be a hack? – [Dan] It’s from Aaron
Higgin. I mean, it looks awful, but I would imagine, quite effective. – [Simon] Basically, well yeah, I mean, you’d still get hot legs,
possibly sweaty hands. But that would be good for
your face, wouldn’t it? So I see why you’re on the fence, Dan. – Yeah.
– Hack or bodge, mate? – Bodge. You decide in the comments. Let us know what you think
about Aaron’s bodge or hack. If you’d like to get
involved for next week, the hashtag is #gcnhack. You can use that on Twitter on Instagram, or you can use our uploader. (laid back electronic music) – Caption Competition now. Your chance to get your hands on a GCN Camelbak water bottle. All you gotta do is write a
thoroughly amusing caption to a photo we’re gonna give you, and stick it in the
comments section down below. We’ll pick a winner next week. The winner to this photo,
which we gave you last week, is, it’s a bit of a purler, isn’t it? Dan, you want to read it out?
– I will do. – [Dan] It’s from Scott Bolton, who put, caption competition,
“Si’s ‘Coming Off’ Face.” (drumming) See what you did there, Scott. – Well done. – Get in touch on Facebook with
a message with your address and we’ll get that out
to you very soon indeed. This week’s photo comes
from the Shanghai Criterium. You gonna get us started, Si?
– [Simon] No, go on, mate. I reckon you do it this time.
– Okay. – [Dan] Headline, Sock Doping, the Least of the UCI’s Worries for 2019. They do look hil, I mean,
Sagann there on the right, look at the state of him. – [Simon] Yeah, looks like some kind of weird stag do gone wrong, doesn’t it? But there we go, Marcel Kittel, Geraint Thomas, and Peter Sagan. – [Dan] And somebody in the middle that didn’t draw a short straw. – [Simon] Doesn’t he look happy about it. – [Dan] He looks, look what I’ve managed to make them dress up as. – Right, anyway, get involved. If you can come up with a caption that even gets close
to the genius of Dan’s, stick it in the comments
section down below and we’ll pick a winner for next week. (laid back electronic music) – We have once again picked
out our three favorite comments from the last seven days of GCN videos, the first of which came under
the gravel versus cross bike, which technically was slightly
over seven days ago, Si, but nevertheless.
– Yeah, I was gonna say, breaking our rules, Dan. – This is from OnzeManInKazakhstan. “Since you guys are now
invading our trails, “can we at least still
make fun of your Spandex? “Sincerely, GMBN.” – Yeah, they still make fun our Spandex. – Some mountain, the
mountain biking that I watch, cross country, they do
wear Spandex though. – To be fair, there’s also quite a good video on GMBN from the weekend where Neal races a
Spandex-clad cross country guy, and he gets absolutely roasted. – Well, I’m not surprised.
– No, I’m not either. I mean, I didn’t want to tell Neal how much aerodynamic drag there was coming from his flappy, baggy clothes. – But you did anyway.
– Yeah. He glazed over, it was really weird. Right, next up, this comment from Tobias D under last week’s show. “Dan somehow looks completely different. “What’s happened to him, is he okay?” – Well, I’ve gone for, I went
for a change in hairstyle. I felt like at, you know, two years down the
line, I needed a change. But there were a few
comments along those lines, like, has Dan just given up on competing in the hair stakes with
the new presenters? – It’s artfully messy. How did you not work it out? – Well, if I’m being
completely honest with you, my wife, Lorraine, sent
me down to the hairdresser and said, I’d like you to
look like Miles Kane, please. So this was the closest that he could get. Probably not very good. – I’m not sure I know who Miles Kane is. – Anyway, shall we move on? Well, he’s far too cool for school, and therefore for you to know, Si. Jon Burnell wrote, “Wow,
Ollie’s skills are so extreme, “they blew off his facial hair.” This episode from last week’s
GCN Show in Extreme Corner. I think he was rumbled there, wasn’t he? It wasn’t actually Ollie. – [Simon] Yeah, also the
fact that his body double had muscles.
– And brawn. – [Simon] Yeah, yeah,
muscles and brawn, basically. – Gave it away.
– There we go. Honestly, who’d bring a stunt man in for something like that? – Well, I know, Si, I know. Right, coming up on the channel this week, on Wednesday we’ve got how to plan your next cycling adventure,
courtesy of you, I believe. – Indeed, yeah. – On Thursday it’s top 10 bargain cycling accessories from James. And then the two of
you combine, don’t you, on Friday for the next
edition of Ask GCN Anything. – That’s right, looking
forward to that one. Saturday, what with the new 2019 bikes cropping up all over the
place, we take you through the new Shimano 105 that
was released this year. Then on Sunday we’ve
got how light is right? Finding your perfect cycling weight, but then also the dangers
that go with it as well. And then you were waiting for the epic ride from Oman last weekend. Sorry about that, it’s coming
out this weekend instead. – Yeah, and then Monday, of course, is the GCN Racing News Show again, the next round of the UCI Cyclocross World Cup featured there. And then Tuesday we’re back
in the set for the GCN Show. (energetic rock music) – Right, we’re getting towards
the end of the show now, but we of course still have
time for Extreme Corner. And this week it’s Kirt
Voreis in Here to Slay, which is a wicked video. ♪ Feel like they knew me,
but running for fearing ♪ ♪ I’m popping a wheelie,
I’ll show ’em my girly ♪ ♪ I do this for really and for my family ♪ ♪ I shared every night, man ♪ ♪ It’s all so familiar ♪ ♪ Them bitches, they killing me ♪ ♪ Like, bitch, are you kidding me ♪ ♪ Balling, that doesn’t kick to me ♪ ♪ You can’t get rid of me ♪ ♪ You were my chain and my cheat ♪ ♪ But you’re real good at chemistry ♪ – Oh.
– Smooth as silk, isn’t he? – Yeah, they called it steezy, you know. – Yeah, I know. I didn’t know that. – Do you think that was actually him, or has he employed a stuntman? – Well, that’s a good point, Dan. You never know, do you, mate? – No, you don’t.
– No. – Right, well that is, as Si mentioned, all for this week’s show. But we’ll be back at
the same time next week, and we hope you’ll join us then. In the meantime, if you haven’t already seen Jon’s video from Japan where he looks at the lucrative
world of keirin racing, as I’ve heard it’s pronounced,
rather than kee-rin. – Apparently so. – Really interesting, that is. You can find that video just down here. – Yeah, remember of course, as well, that you got a limited
time to get your hands on the Black Friday metallic range as well, and also the sale is currently on. So head over to the GCN shop. (logo swooshing)

100 comments on “Why Hardening The F*** Up Isn’t The Answer, But Why It Might Help | The GCN Show Ep. 306

  1. Thank you so much for acknowledging our feedback on the cornering video! Fingers crossed you find a stunt person who also can ride a bike. 🙂

  2. Had to go back after watching this show's presentation to check the uploading date for the video, don't know why I thought I was watching a 2013 GCN show.

  3. Hi GCN. I think a combination of both. On the very bad weather days.(maybe a little more in Scotland) I use an indoor turbo trainer and in the summer bike only. If the roads are not suitable then I go out on my mountain bike, skis or run to keep up a good fitness. Train wisely.

  4. Welllll…. The 2018 Dirty Dozen is in Pittsburgh on Saturday (Nov 24) and as the official event meteorologist I can say that the only redeeming feature of the weather forecast is that it will be above freezing. At the start of the event it is likely to be 36 F and raining. I am in Brussels right now, rushing to a flight tomorrow so I can get home Friday evening to get up early Saturday to lead one of the ride groups for the day, and unless I can arrange with Delta Airlines to conveniently delay my flight for some reason or another, I am very likely to be on that start line. I think I need a psychiatrist.

  5. you know someone's good when they make it look easy, or smooth at least, just like blake and neil

  6. Is this really new? I mean "no pain, no gain" is from the 80s?! So i guess this really isn't anything new. Also FTP workouts like over-unders are also nothing new… So i guess HFU is the new "no pain, no gain" or what?

  7. I smash myself most rides and go out in all weather! Like the feeling of a good workout and the associated suffering! I also enjoy watching my mates suffer whilst I try and keep a poker face!! 😉

  8. if you never hurt yourself in training , you wil never get much better !!! plus , going deep is a satisfying feeling !!!!

  9. If you're watching the video around the 22min mark close one eye and switch between looking at presenters, one of them will turn black and white.

  10. I've always been a supporter of getting people on e bikes if that will make them stop commuting in cars. However, seeing that clip of the moron on the e bike shooting past the traditional cyclist makes me think I prefer idiots driving slow in traffic in cars, than hurtling all over the place at 45km/h+ on e bikes with absolutely no clue what they're doing. If you give people that much performance and no speed limits they WILL use it (I would too). The problem is that not everyone is a great bike handler (me included) and could become a threat to other road/path users. Ride safe.

  11. Lights and old school mountain bike riding? in the 90's we used to have 'moonlight rides' around the trails in the Asir mountains of Saudi Arabia, strictly no lights allowed – great fun. With no light pollution it was nearly as bright as during the day.. Mind you, I do have several areas of 'new' skin after clipping a rock, snapping an axle and sliding about 30ft down the trail! Talk about HTFU – 5 mile ride back with only one crank and blood oozing down my leg.

  12. 26:34 "On Saturday, we're doing yet more promotion for Shimano, but not mentioning anything new from Campagnolo (12-speed, Centaur, for example)"

  13. Weird. Si looks out of focus and Dan is perfect. Or maybe my eyes are shot but still, maybe a lighting issue. And glad you finally managed to pronounce 'keirin' properly! (Been driving me nuts!)

  14. Regarding the limits of cornering grip I’m sure the excellent Jason from Engineering explained would be able to calculate the highest speed you could corner on a given tyre.

  15. Yes, because I am a middle-aged cyclist. I get better after I occasion push myself beyond what I believe to be my comfortable limit. The trainer is torture without "games" Zwift, Rouvy, etc.

  16. I'm 64 and have cycled for pleasure off and on for more than 40 years. Since 2012 I have tried to take road cycling more seriously (longer rides, sportives etc.) and I have reached the conclusion that HTFU mentally is definitely necessary if you want to achieve challenging goals. But, it's definitely a mental thing rather than physical.

  17. With regards to harden thr f… up, you should watch the movie "wondeful Losers" wich is a dokumetory that is nominated for an Oscar 2019. It about all the hardened up "Water Carriers" around the grand tours. I the clip I have seen it is our belowed danish hero Chris Anker Sorensen, where is beeing tested by th doctor of TDF, He told in an iterveiw to T V2 Denmark that he could not rembere anything, It turned out he had a concussion. parten my english by the way , no spell control and I am danish

  18. Caption: new studies show that bright coulours and sequins save 2 watts at 45kph over lycra. Team sky have allready redesigned their kit for the tours next year #marginalgains

  19. 11:46 Doesn't matter if you measure your weight in pounds or kilos: the pound is defined to be exactly 0.45359237 kg so, if the kilogram changes, the pound changes with it.

  20. I had to dig into the HTRU locker this morning. It was only 11c, but with no wind, was likely to be ~5c in some of the valleys!!!!
    We are in Perth FYI….

  21. htfu only really applies to competition cyclist when there is a competition , there is no benefit to riding in the cold on the road , or in terrible conditions , if there is no race in sight , you need to just get a good work out in on an indoor trainer , and when there is a race coming up then you can put in your mouth piece and get serious .

  22. Maybe you should ask Dr. Pooley about the IPK, Plank's constant and the definition of the Kilogram because obviously she's the smart one of the group.

  23. Harden up like Flipper for the sake of your life, not your bike–unless you are a pro who must harden up for your life on the bike. And it is fulfilling with mostly fun and lots of suffering to harden up. And it is an excellent adventure to be part of this whole racing deal, no matter how we define racing or suffering or relaxing between the lines. Like here in the States, the television ads for the indoor training service Peloton show a woman getting a satisfying workout on her stationary bike just before dinner in her home. And that is suffering–trendy suffering, if you will, but when you suffer, you recover and that is pure bliss. And speaking of Peloton, they had a massive ad campaign last week here in the States on ESPN sports talk radio, which is radio about ball sports 24 hours a day. And speaking of Flipper, I watched one episode of that show back in the Sixties and I liked it. I was jailed in the baby-sitting pen at the Presidio in San Francisco while my parents were evidently enjoying a night on the town. And Flipper seemed like a pretty friendly dolphin.

  24. And Si called Dan's new hairstyle artfully messy, and then Si and Ollie spent the rest of the day looking for their combs.

  25. The "Harden the fuck up" mentality was used to while I was in the military to great success… It's all just pain leaving the body. That being said screw indoor training. I would much rather suffer outside in crappy weather than get on a boring trainer.

  26. HTFU? Ride into a wind about that is as fast as you can handle. Ride up a snow or gravel, or snow and gravel 10+ grade for more then ten minutes. _ Ride in the hot rain (florida) getting into every puddle having every car spalsh on you because the drives are staring at their phones, and barely being able to see through the swamp.

  27. Received my short sleeve metallic edition jersey this morning!!!! Just under £40 +p&p……Lovely!! Hanging on my wall right now! 🙂

  28. You know what, I’ve come down with sarcoidosis, and my wind is largely gone! Nowadays even a 12 minute mile is about all I can muster (fairly feeble jogging pace). Nevertheless I’m still running about 12 miles a week plus fairly hard circuit training on alternate days. Whilst my output is very decidedly declined, I make sure to get myself thoroughly wrecked each and every workout; so even though I’m always waaaay at the back of the pack – I’m still in the pack. I’m loving going to the doctors for my checkup, and registering a resting heart rate in low 50s and occasionally down in the 40s! Once I legitimately scored a 39, that was truly remarkable. So anyway, yeah, whilst my performance has been severely curtailed- you know what, it’s more important just to get out there and participate. Even if it is slightly embarrassing to be so out of breath yet barely holding up at the rear. Humbling. 😊

  29. Here…here!….behind the scenes at GCN HQ should be on the project list, let’s meet the editors, cameramen et al’…….

  30. As a general comment, most people could use a good dose of HTFU (mentally and physically). Compared to previous generations we all have it pretty easy.

    Regarding cycling, it really depends on your goals/purpose for riding. You will always have to suffer at some level in cycling, but the frequency and degree should vary depending on why you’re riding or training.

  31. Ollie reminds me so much of Sebastian Vettel that when he first started to appear in GCN videos, I expected him to have a German accent.

  32. I just had my "Harden the Fuck Up" tattoo replaced with one that says "It's more about…..just having pleasure on the bike really.." Thanks Dan Lloyd! Powerful stuff!

  33. If I don’t HDTF and ride through the winter in Boston, my annual spring trip to California to ride the peaks with my brother truly becomes a pathetic sufferfest.

  34. Most of my long-distance cycling has been 75% stubbornness, and 24% a fair physical condition. The last 1% was sheer desire to see if I was able to do it.

  35. I think cycling is almost always a test of what one can do and pushing limits. I love riding in tough conditions, yes it takes a bit longer to motivate and get out the door, but in the end it feels good to do some thing that others may think is a little nuts. It's the "bad ass bonus". If your not getting payed to ride, than yes; why do it? Ummm because you miss an opportunity to be a bad ass! Look forward to horrible rides for they give one the chance to shine even more in the world of bad-ass-ness.

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